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Filibuster battle altering '08 presidential landscape
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | May 29, 2005 | By Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 05/29/2005 2:33:50 PM PDT by strategofr

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To: HardStarboard

Of all of that stuff you listed as George Allen's strong suits that you THOUGHT you were getting with George Bush, just which ones did you think you'd get, but didn't?


41 posted on 05/29/2005 5:28:13 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: mariabush

"This conversation is really getting old!!!!!"

Yeah, just treat these comments as immaterial background noise.


42 posted on 05/29/2005 5:28:45 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: senateforcaster

Woah! Hats off to you. You sound like one of those dudes I like to be in the vicinity of when the Presidential returns are coming in.


43 posted on 05/29/2005 5:31:03 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: gidget7

"Allen would be one to look at, IMO (though what's that worth),"

Does anyone actually know anything about Allen, other than he did the right thing on filibusters. Not saying he's wrong to do so, strategy and tactics are important, but he seems to be playing the standard candidate early game---give them nothing so they can't attack. But us activist types don't want to wait till 7/08 to start learning about the guy, like the average American.


44 posted on 05/29/2005 5:34:47 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Cowboy Bob

LOL!


45 posted on 05/29/2005 5:35:41 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Justanobody

"It'll be a complex primary because the moderates(guiliani,mccain etc) would have a better chance in the general,
I disagree. "

With you. The Reagan/W.Bush analysis.


46 posted on 05/29/2005 5:38:45 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Proud_texan

"Okay, I guess the 500+ volunteers I've talked to over the last 2.5 months.."

If you felt like saying, I'd like to hear about that. Also, were you one of the "72 Hour" Texans who went to battleground states in 11/2004?


47 posted on 05/29/2005 5:41:29 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: konaice

Ditto.


48 posted on 05/29/2005 5:41:56 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Left IS the Dark Side.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

"The federalist option as you call it, is principled, politically viable, and based on a sound understanding of the founders' intentions."

You got it. Did you happen to read Bork's Tempting of America?

Before this Border issue erupted, I felt the approach you are talking about was the key to GOP unity & victory. It still is, but the Border thing now must also be addressed.

The thing about your issue, the Right to Lifers need to get clear on the need for Strict Constructionist Supreme Court judges.

Here is part of an old post of mine on strategypage.com:

"...I have a strong feeling though, that there are a significant number of moderate Republican Senators who secretly like the idea that Specter will preserve Roe V. Wade.

To me, however, this badly misses the key point, which is the fight for strict constructionism. Because waht the Left is quite intentionally doing is outmanouvering the whole mechanism of government with the Supreme Court. It is a vast flanking movement, and from my perspective, Roe v. Wade is a smokescreen to cover that move. Because to the extent that the Left succeeds in this manouver, they have vitiated Democracy itself. And I do feel that this is the goal of the driving forces behind the Democratic Party, even though the rank and file of the party still believes in Democracy."

In addition, it would not surprise me if the Left supports Right to Lifers who want to put Supreme Court justices on the bench who will invent a "law" outlawing abortion to counteract Roe v. Wade. This was apparently McCain (the Mancurian Candidate's) position in 2000, according to an FR post I read. Theoretically, this would be "terrible" for the Left, because it would outlaw abortion. But I don't think the people really drivign the Hard Left care abput abortion nearly as much as destroying the Constitution. That would be the ultimate in 'political judo". To lose to the Right at some point and have them reinforce the idea that US Law is entirely the creation of Supreme Court judges.



49 posted on 05/29/2005 5:54:34 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

"Maggie Thatcher was a good one, Golda Meir did fine"

Condi is no Maggie Thatcher or Golda Meir. She was a good National Security advisor. But she is not even tough enough to clean up State, let alone run the gov't. not that cleaning up State isn't one of the toughest jobs imaginable. But I'm not seeing it happen.


50 posted on 05/29/2005 5:57:25 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Txsleuth

At a guess, the conservative part.


51 posted on 05/29/2005 6:06:07 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Just one more reason to hate the government....)
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To: Txsleuth
My gosh, the MSM has already crowned Mrs. Bubba, and she is a senator...but hasn't been even a mayor, let alone governor!!!

Doesn't having been Co-President count for anything?

52 posted on 05/29/2005 6:12:52 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Politicalmom

Well, perhaps, but even President Bush referred to himself as a compassionate conservative, so if you want to pick nits, he wasn't misrepresenting himself....

voters maybe, were misreading what he was saying...


53 posted on 05/29/2005 6:16:30 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: varon

It counts for why she has those FBI files, White House silverware, and the MSM paving her way down the yellow brick road to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, once again....

Follow, the yellow brick road....the only thing that can save us is if someone throws water on her!!


54 posted on 05/29/2005 6:18:52 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: strategofr
Does anyone actually know anything about Allen,

Start here - very interesting!

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CNIP9093

55 posted on 05/29/2005 6:43:43 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: strategofr
But she is not even tough enough to clean up State...

Jeesums, she only became SoS January 26, 2005. Don't you think 4 months is a little quick to judge anyone on a job of that magnitude?

56 posted on 05/29/2005 6:50:58 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: strategofr
1820: Conservative Democratic Republican James Monroe is re-elected in a landslide over former Federalist John Quincy Adams.

1924: Former Massachusetts Governor Calvin Coolidge trounces John Davis of West Virginia. Check out the bio on Davis-- a far more impressive resume than modern near misses such as Kerry and Gore.

57 posted on 05/29/2005 6:55:00 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: strategofr
Allen looking good so far.

Indeed!

58 posted on 05/29/2005 7:02:08 PM PDT by veronica (Never trust a Worm...)
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To: konaice
Dr. Rice has good academic credentials, but she has no experience as an executive. We don't know whether she's capable of running anything bigger than a department staff meeting in the political science department of a university. You can claim that senators don't win presidential elections, but former senators have a better chance than former professors do. Dr. Rice is a smart lady, but there's nothing to suggest that she's qualified to be president.

Senator Allen is not just a senator but is also a former governor. The reason that senators haven't won often is that most of them have nothing more than legislative experience. Good legislators are not necessarily good executives, and that's why some people question the jump from the U.S. Senate to the White House. As a former governor, George Allen has already shown that he can be an executive.

Bill

59 posted on 05/29/2005 7:48:16 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: mariabush
Dr. Rice has absolutely no qualifications to be President

Thank you for deciding that for us.

60 posted on 05/29/2005 7:55:59 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Incumbent VP Rice for President in 2008.)
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