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Buddy Poppies fading. Few seem to know significance, bother to buy.
Arizona Daily Star ^ | May 30, 2005 | Carol Ann Alaimo

Posted on 05/30/2005 8:15:09 AM PDT by SandRat

On a weekend when many Tucsonans are camping in the mountains or partying at poolside, Dan Hawkins has been standing outside a supermarket in 100-degree heat, clutching a fistful of memories that seem to grow dimmer each year.

There was a time when passers-by eagerly scooped up the scarlet Buddy Poppies Hawkins has peddled each Memorial Day weekend since 1987.

Nowadays, there are far fewer takers for the bright red flowers that recall America's fallen troops.

"It used to be a big thing," said Hawkins, 72, a Vietnam veteran and leader of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 7399.

"Pretty much everybody knew what it was about when

(Excerpt) Read more at dailystar.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aypoppie; memorialday; memorials; poppies; veterans; wardead
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1 posted on 05/30/2005 8:15:11 AM PDT by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; JackelopeBreeder; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; Marine Inspector; ...

I have my poppie do you?


2 posted on 05/30/2005 8:15:43 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Google, which goes for every obscure observance--won't put a flag or a poppy on its site for Memorial Day.


3 posted on 05/30/2005 8:17:27 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: SandRat

I have about 4 thanks to my kids. (MoJo goes shopping and the kids hand over my money. Ain't that nice of them? Hehe! I don't mind at all when it comes to our Veterans!) They also have 2 suckers each. Thank you to our Veterans that were out in full force at the commissary, Kmart, Wally World (Walmart for you more sophisticated folks out there), and Farm Fresh.

Happy Memorial Day!
Never forget!

Thank you to all of our past, present, and future Veterans.


4 posted on 05/30/2005 8:18:35 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (Support Our Troops-->It's The Least Any Of Us Can Do...www.proudpatriots.org)
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To: SandRat
Plant poppies around your house and the DEA will use the asset forfeiture laws to steal it.
5 posted on 05/30/2005 8:19:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Mamzelle
Google, which goes for every obscure observance--won't put a flag or a poppy on its site for Memorial Day.

That bothered me too! Time to quit using Google, I think.....

6 posted on 05/30/2005 8:20:29 AM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: SandRat

Don't see the poppie folks out anymore.
:(


7 posted on 05/30/2005 8:20:45 AM PDT by two23
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To: Mamzelle

I got my poppy. I think the VFW should do a little PR and inform people what they are about. Even the most liberal paper or TV station has a slow news day sometimes and they might be able to actually get a bit of coverage. If wearing 15 stupid rubber bands on your wrist is cool, being in the news would automatically boost poppy sales. I bet not 1 in 100 people under 21 could tell you what the poppies are for, but if one showed up in a movie, look out! Stampede!
People are so driven by the media it's ridiculous.


8 posted on 05/30/2005 8:21:18 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SandRat

My wife bought one yesterday because her dad and grandfather always bought them. It's one of those things that's handed down from the older generations.


9 posted on 05/30/2005 8:22:08 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Mamzelle

Interesting observation


10 posted on 05/30/2005 8:22:14 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: SandRat
Unfortunately, I never heard of the Buddy Poppie, or its meaning. But I do now.

Unfortunately I think that only the WWII and Korean War generations know the meaning.

11 posted on 05/30/2005 8:23:42 AM PDT by mountn man
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To: Mamzelle
and that says of Google....... go ahead I know you're thinking it. Ok, don't say it; because that's the sort of language refined Ladies such as your self don't use. We were both thinking of how low and despicable they are.

As the Gentile Ladies of the South would say of Google were it a lady with ahem peculiarities: "Poor Thing, Bless her Heart."
12 posted on 05/30/2005 8:24:26 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: eeriegeno
Time to quit using Google, I think.....

It's no secret that the owners/operators of Google bend to the left. Try this: www.clusty.com

13 posted on 05/30/2005 8:24:53 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: SandRat

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.


14 posted on 05/30/2005 8:25:26 AM PDT by politicalwit (USA...A Nation of Selective Law Enforcement.)
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To: MoJo2001

Don't ask about magnets for the car or the metal clad door between the garage and kitchen, OUCH! Talk about an easy mark for any group selling in front of the Commissary or PX.


15 posted on 05/30/2005 8:26:18 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Not if I plant the poppies the VFW/American-Legion/DAV/POW/Purple Heart Assoc sell.


16 posted on 05/30/2005 8:28:09 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: two23

Ask your local VFW or American Legion why?


17 posted on 05/30/2005 8:28:46 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: mountn man

and now are you going to seek out the veterans organization selling Buddie-Poppies and educate others?


18 posted on 05/30/2005 8:30:57 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: eeriegeno; Mamzelle; Right Wing Assault; nuconvert; SandRat

Try clusty.com.
Google can go jump in the lake.


19 posted on 05/30/2005 8:31:16 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (...a sheep in wolf's clothing)
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To: politicalwit

Yes-Yes-Yes!

Some of us remember having to memorize that poem in grade school for the schools participation in the Memorial Day activities (school didn't let out until the 2nd week in June).


20 posted on 05/30/2005 8:33:05 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Got mine but they are getting harder and harder to find.


21 posted on 05/30/2005 8:33:14 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
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To: NonValueAdded

Ask your local VFW or American Legion and if enough other folks start asking they'll come back.


22 posted on 05/30/2005 8:37:00 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: politicalwit
In Canada (In Flanders Fields was written by a Canadian), the poppy is still a big thing on November 11.

Unfortunately its meaning has become more of an anti-war symbol, as Canadians very rarely read the last verse and Ottawa has "dropped the torch".

23 posted on 05/30/2005 8:37:28 AM PDT by concrete is my business (lay a solid foundation)
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To: two23
Here's one for you
24 posted on 05/30/2005 8:38:59 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SandRat
Traditional poppies were initially handed out to commemorate November 11, the day WWI ended in 1918 in Europe. In Great Britain and the Commonwealth (Australia, Canada, New Zealand) the Poppy is still very much in evidence in the days leading up to November 11. Memorial Day poppies, although appropriate, are a more recent development.
25 posted on 05/30/2005 8:40:09 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o

I got one in November, too. We should have them on the 4th of July, as well.


26 posted on 05/30/2005 8:45:53 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SandRat

I'm not eligible to join either organization but I will ask them if I can volunteer next year. Maybe it is time to start a fund raising campaign to print up flyers that explain the significance - or we could ask the schools to teach, er .. sorry, I lost my mind there for a moment.


27 posted on 05/30/2005 8:46:58 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
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To: politicalwit
In 1915, inspired by the poem "In Flanders Fields," Moina Michael replied with her own poem:

We cherish too, the Poppy red

That grows on fields where valor led,

It seems to signal to the skies

That blood of heroes never dies.

She then conceived of an idea to wear red poppies on Memorial day in honor of those who died serving the nation during war. She was the first to wear one, and sold poppies to her friends and co-workers with the money going to benefit servicemen in need. Later a Madam Guerin from France was visiting the United States and learned of this new custom started by Ms.Michael and when she returned to France, made artificial red poppies to raise money for war orphaned children and widowed women. This tradition spread to other countries. In 1921, the Franco-American Children's League sold poppies nationally to benefit war orphans of France and Belgium. The League disbanded a year later and Madam Guerin approached the VFW for help. Shortly before Memorial Day in 1922 the VFW became the first veterans' organization to nationally sell poppies. Two years later their "Buddy" Poppy program was selling artificial poppies made by disabled veterans. In 1948 the US Post Office honored Ms Michael for her role in founding the National Poppy movement by issuing a red 3 cent postage stamp with her likeness on it.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE WEAR A POPPY

"Please wear a poppy," the lady said And held one forth, but I shook my head.

Then I stopped and watched as she offered them there,

And her face was old and lined with care;

But beneath the scars the years had made

There remained a smile that refused to fade.

A boy came whistling down the street,

Bouncing along on care-free feet.

His smile was full of joy and fun,

"Lady," said he, "may I have one?"

When she'd pinned it on he turned to say,

"Why do we wear a poppy today?"

The lady smiled in her wistful way

And answered, "This is Remembrance Day,

And the poppy there is the symbol for

The gallant men who died in war.

And because they did, you and I are free -

That's why we wear a poppy, you see."

"I had a boy about your size,

With golden hair and big blue eyes.

He loved to play and jump and shout,

Free as a bird he would race about.

As the years went by he learned and grew

and became a man - as you will, too."

"He was fine and strong, with a boyish smile,

But he'd seemed with us such a little while

When war broke out and he went away.

I still remember his face that day

When he smiled at me and said, Goodbye,

I'll be back soon, Mom, so please don't cry."

"But the war went on and he had to stay,

And all I could do was wait and pray.

His letters told of the awful fight,

(I can see it still in my dreams at night),

With the tanks and guns and cruel barbed wire,

And the mines and bullets, the bombs and fire."

"Till at last, at last, the war was won -

And that's why we wear a poppy son."

The small boy turned as if to go,

Then said, "Thanks, lady, I'm glad to know.

That sure did sound like an awful fight,

But your son - did he come back all right?"

A tear rolled down each faded check;

She shook her head, but didn't speak.

I slunk away in a sort of shame,

And if you were me you'd have done the same;

For our thanks, in giving, if oft delayed,

Thought our freedom was bought - and thousands paid!

And so when we see a poppy worn,

Let us reflect on the burden borne,

By those who gave their very all

When asked to answer their country's call

That we at home in peace might live.

Then wear a poppy! Remember - and give!

by Don Crawford

28 posted on 05/30/2005 8:47:44 AM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: SandRat

Come to think of it, I didn't see anyone out selling them in my neck of the woods this year.


29 posted on 05/30/2005 8:49:47 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I see yours says "assembled by disabled veterans" ... I'm glad to see that since mine doesn't carry that message and I thought that program might have ended.


30 posted on 05/30/2005 8:50:02 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
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To: NonValueAdded

I don't know where you buy them in the DC area; I've looked for years to find one to proudly wear and there doesn't seem to be anyone peddling them on the streets anymore. BTW, many folks wear them in England on Veteran's (Armistice) Day.


31 posted on 05/30/2005 8:52:11 AM PDT by laconic
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To: JesseJane

Why did you use the blurry font on your post? Oh, I see the problem is local :) Thanks for posting those poems.


32 posted on 05/30/2005 8:53:28 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
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To: Mamzelle

Thanks for the alert--everyone who is bothered by this should send them an e-mail. http://www.google.com/contact/


33 posted on 05/30/2005 8:54:20 AM PDT by duvausa
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To: NonValueAdded

I got it off their website, but yes, mine does have that tag. I think the reason few are being sold is that the younger vets aren't as big into the VFW as the older guys. All the salesmen are dying off.


34 posted on 05/30/2005 8:54:32 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: kristinn

Maybe something for the DC chapter to spearhead? Just a thought.


35 posted on 05/30/2005 8:54:34 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED)
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A few of us from the "younger generations" know that they are for. The American Legion poppies look something like this:

Both my sister and I each had the honor of being "Miss Poppy" for our AL Junior Auxiliary unit. In our respective years, we each led the Memorial Day parade to the top of the South River bridge to drop a poppy wreath off while someone played "Taps". Then we'd spend the rest of the day selling poppies at the local grocery store.

36 posted on 05/30/2005 8:54:40 AM PDT by cyphergirl
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To: NonValueAdded

I visited the Somme Battlefield in Northern France a few years ago and endless fields of poppies were in full bloom next to the soldiers cemetaries and memorials. Their beautiful lives symbolically spring to life every year.


37 posted on 05/30/2005 8:55:05 AM PDT by laconic
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To: politicalwit
The protected will never know just how sweet the taste of freedom really is.

A Soldier Died Today

He was getting old and paunchy;
And his hair was falling fast,
And he sat around the Legion,
Telling stories of the past.

Of a war that he had fought in,
And the deeds that he had done.
In his exploits with his buddies;
They were heroes, everyone.

And 'tho sometimes, to his neighbors,
His tales became a joke.
All his buddies listened,
For they knew whereof he spoke.

But we'll hear his tales no longer,
For ol' Bob has passed away,
And the world's a little poorer,
For a soldier died today.

He won't be mourned by many,
Just his children and his wife.
For he lived an ordinary...
Very quiet sort of life.

He held a job and raised a family,
Quietly going on his way.
And the world won't note his passing,
'Tho a Soldier died today.

When politicians leave this earth,
Their bodies lie in state.
While thousands note their passing,
And proclaim that they were great.

Papers tell of their life stories,
From the time that they were young.
But the passing of a soldier,
Goes unnoticed, and unsung.

Is the greatest contribution,
To the welfare of our land,
Some jerk who breaks his promise,
And cons his fellow man?

Or the ordinary fellow,
Who in times of war and strife,
Goes off to serve his Country...
And offers up his life?

The politician's stipend,
And the style in which he lives,
Are sometimes disproportionate,
To the service he gives.

While the ordinary soldier,
Who offered up his all,
Is paid off with a medal,
And perhaps a pension...small.

It's so easy to forget them,
For it is so long ago,
That our Bob's and Jim's and Johnny's,
Went to battle, but we know.

It was not the politicians,
With their compromise and ploys;
Who won for us the freedom,
That our Country now enjoys.

Should you find yourself in danger,
With your enemies at hand;
Would you really want some cop-out,
With his ever waffling stand?

Or would you want a Soldier,
Who has sworn to defend,
His home, his kin and Country,
And would fight until the end?

He was just a common Soldier,
And his ranks are growing thin.
But his presence should remind us,
We may need his like again.

For when countries are in conflict,
Then we find the Soldier's part,
Is to clean up all the troubles,
That the politicians start.

If we cannot do him honor,
While he's here to hear the praise.
Then at least let's give him homage,
At the ending of his days.

Perhaps just a simple headline,
In the paper that might say,
"OUR COUNTRY IS IN MOURNING,
FOR A SOLDIER DIED TODAY."

Author Unknown


38 posted on 05/30/2005 8:57:17 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: duvausa

Thanks for the link to Google. I will keep that handy.

I just sent them this:

"Hey! Wouldn't it be nice to have a Memorial Day commemoration on your "Google" logo just like you do for so many other days? How about an American flag? If you hurry, you can get it up before it is too late. Remember the 4th of July, too. A flag, not just firecrackers."


39 posted on 05/30/2005 8:59:14 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: NonValueAdded

:')

Your welcome NVA.



40 posted on 05/30/2005 8:59:31 AM PDT by JesseJane (Flush the RINO RATPACK 7 - ~Selling America to Soros~, Right McCain? Right Lindsay?)
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To: SandRat

I always help out vet orginizations. And all my friends know I'm very supportive of our military.


41 posted on 05/30/2005 9:22:52 AM PDT by mountn man
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To: SandRat
This is really sad...(but not wholly surprising)

Went to the NAS Brunswick commissary yesterday afternoon. NO poppies. Commissary is closed today.

Last year at this time I was in VA Beach (hubby was stationed at NAS Norfolk) and received my poppy outside of the NAS Oceana commissary.

Only in Maine, eh?

42 posted on 05/30/2005 9:31:39 AM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Thanks! Just sent one to my entire email list!


43 posted on 05/30/2005 9:46:05 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't hold it against me because I shot the SOB. I'm tired of dealing with stupid people!)
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To: mass55th
When I worked at my company's plant on Detroit's east side, there was ALWAYS a vet standing at the plant's gate with the poppies for all the years I worked there. When he finally retired, he and another vet stationed themselves at the I-94 exit to Chandler Park drive while Jerry, a Viet Nam vet took over the post at the plant.

Since I transfered to our Troy office 7 years ago, I haven't seen a poppy since. They may have been available out in my area but I just never saw them.

44 posted on 05/30/2005 9:57:05 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't hold it against me because I shot the SOB. I'm tired of dealing with stupid people!)
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To: NonValueAdded
The DAV is always looking for average Joe Citizen auxiliary members to join and help the disabled Veterans in some way. Check them out first. One of the biggest things here that the DAV is always looking for is someone to drive disabled veteran's to VA Hospital Appointments. That may be one way to help in your area through the DAV. The others have auxiliary members too I think just don't know the rules and bylaws. I'm sure that they'd appreciate the offer to help no matter what.
45 posted on 05/30/2005 10:09:44 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: mass55th

Well call your local veteran's organizations and ask were they, where were they, and then pick one to volunteer to help sell poppies on Nov 11th.


46 posted on 05/30/2005 10:11:30 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

In Flanders Fields
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.


47 posted on 05/30/2005 10:11:38 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: mountn man

Bravo to you! We need more folks like you.


48 posted on 05/30/2005 10:12:14 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Mamzelle
They ignored Veterans Day well.

A real creepy bunch must own Google.
49 posted on 05/30/2005 10:16:16 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant
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To: randog

It's one of those things that's handed down from the older generations.

Yes, I remember well how my grandfather and all my relatives always wore one. Unfortunately, because our schools don't teach American history anymore, and teachers are against the military, no one is passing this lovely tradition down. I suppose if someone created a flower to remember the 'Iraqi freedom fighters' the NEA would make sure all our children learned about that 'tradition'. Pardon my cynicism, but I believe it is a disgrace that our children aren't taught about these things anymore.


50 posted on 05/30/2005 10:17:23 AM PDT by hardworking (Seven wishy-washy Republican senators = America's soft underbelly that Osama B.L. mentioned)
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