Posted on 05/30/2005 12:56:59 PM PDT by Alouette
In the London Arabic-language daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, Saudi columnist Hussein Shubakshi discusses the Arab world's hatred of Jews. The following are excerpts from the article: [1]
"The Extent of Tremendous Hatred of the Jews is Baffling"
"…The extent of tremendous hatred of the Jews is baffling. Therefore we ask, 'Why do we hate the Jews?'
"The immediate answer will be: 'No, we don't hate the Jews, we hate the Zionists.' [But] this is nonsense. We don't hear [preachers saying in their sermons,] 'Oh Allah, destroy the Zionists, the Zionist enterprise, the offspring of Herzl, and the Basel plan.' Is our current hatred of the Jews the result of the political situation in general and the Palestinian problem in particular? This is a pivotal and important question, and must be answered honestly.
"A few days ago, one of the Saudi newspapers did a nice inquiry on vestiges of Jews in the Al-Ahsaa region in the Arab Peninsula [in eastern Saudi Arabia]. Is it possible that there were traces of Jews in the Arab Peninsula, and that they lived amongst us? The answer is, of course, yes. There is much evidence proving that in more than one Arab country, [Muslims] lived normally alongside Jews, and that [the Jews] studied and worked like the rest of the residents of that country."
The Prophet Muhammad Had Good Relations with the Jews
"Therefore, the matter requires another explanation. This is particularly true since the Prophet Muhammad's relations with the Jews were clear. He made agreements with them, stood [in respect] at the funeral of one of them, maintained relations with them, married a Jewess, and entrusted his armor to his Jewish neighbor and asked about this Jew when he was missing and sick.
"Our religion permits us to eat the Jews' food, trade with them, and marry them. So what is the issue? If we know the scope of the problem, and the true reason why the Jews have become this great monster, and [if we understand] how this has spread to the point where they have become the reason for every catastrophe, then we will be able to understand the idea of dividing [human beings] into groups …
"There are Saudis who studied with Jews, were taught by Jewish teachers, and were treated by Jewish doctors. They tell good and normal stories about relations with the Jews – relations that broke the emotional barrier built long ago regarding relations with the Jews.
"It should suffice us to hear a Saudi saying: 'My son was treated for cancer by a Jewish doctor, nobly and morally, and there is someone who wants me to hold hatred and animosity [against this Jew] in my heart, and to curse him at night. I will never do this. There is a huge difference between the contaminated Zionism that abuses Palestine and its sons and carries out atrocities and crimes, and [this] divine religion and its sons.'
"Once, the Muslims knew it, and treated the Jews according to [Koranic] verse [7:159]: ' And of Moses's people there is a party who guided (people) with the truth, and thereby do justice. ' Jews attained top posts in the Umayyad state – like [Rabbi Moses] Ben Maimon, who attained the post of first minister to the caliph [sic].
"I know that a subject like this launches a debate – but, with Allah's help, it is a debate whose aims are good. There is great benefit for us in such a reexamination – and an answer to the question of why we hate the other."
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[1] Al-Sharq Al-Awsat (London), May 17, 2005.
Just don' get too uppity.
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I am stunned. It is time this was discussed. People need to look at why they hate, when they decided to ignore the teaching of their own religion. When did this come about? It did not start with the Palestinian problem, it started before. What brought it about, and isn't it time it was ended?
Actually, while the treatment of the Jews was certainly better that Christendom at it's worse, it was defintely worse than Christendom at it's best.
If the Arab world had emulated the Israelis in 1946 instead of attacking them, the mideast today would be a thriving paradise instead of a war-torn sink hole of hatred.
60 years ago the worlds Jews had nothing but a dream and the arabs had nothing but exploitive governments and sand. Today the Israelis have an economy and a culture to admire and the arabs have sand and anger.
I guess a couple of reasons could be that allah doesn't exist and mohammed was a murdering pedophile. I'd probably hate too if that was the basis of my "religion."
interesting point, most aboriginal societies in fact place primacy and great respect on the female, theoretically....because creation of life is the ultimate power.......
most Canadian tribes, the blood line carries through the mother, ie aboriginal tribes in Canada are matriarchal, even the warrior Iroquois......
***Ergo, traditional "aboriginal tribes/peoples" lived in harmony with nature and live in balance with the nature of all things. May the broken hearts still beat.
I suspect his days are numbered.
How fine can you split this hair? Or better still, how circular can you make this argument?
This "contaiminated" Zionism exists because of anti-Semitism in other parts of the world. Because of the Jews' ancient and traditional roots in "Palestine" it was chosen as a site for Jews to build a sovereign nation.
BUT...
Anti-Semitism, plus jealousy and lots of other things, made the local population fight the Jewish immigrants.
This man thinks it's logical to not hate Jews but to hate Zionism. If you don't hate Jews, why is it wrong for Jews to immigrate to "Palestine"? Why is Zionism "contaiminated" if you don't hate Jews?
Round and round we go....
If I recall didn't the Jews of Eygpt help the Moslems conquer Eygpt because they was being persecuted by the Christians.
allah definitely exists, he isn't exactly on the Lord's side. By his splendour, he was corrupted...that is your first clue.
Does he ask that at Saudi parties? Talk about a conversational show-stopper....
The Prophet Muhammad Had Good Relations with the Jews
If Muhammad had good relations with the Jews, then don't tell us what his bad relations were like.
"Mohammed said in his Hadith: 'The Hour [Day of Resurrection] will not arrive until you fight the Jews, [until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree] and the rock and the tree will say: Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"
The ramblings of a spokesidiot of the 1.4 millenia old Bedouin cult of death that is so steeped in racial hatred its adherents can't see straight.
Heh-heh! good one
Actually, she WAS six years old when she was taken in marriage, but the consummation did not occur until she was nine lunar years, or eight years and eight months...
He was the original paedophile false prophet...
A.A.C.
LOL!
Pretty gutsy for the guy to say this - especially since it obviously flies in the face of 1,324 years of muhammadan history...but we'll see if a larger chorus of "moderate muslime" voices takes up this cry or not.
My bet is already on "not".
A.A.C.
"Avowed Infidel enemy of the ArabianArchPaedophile!"
Yeah, part of the article is warm and fuzzy, but here's the proof this guy's still drinking the koolaid. The problem in "Palestine" isn't Zionism, it's the radical Palestinians (Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc.) that set themselves against any compromise with Israel and desire to drive the Jews into the sea - where is the condemnation of terroristic Islam?
This is a good first step, continuing the recent trend of Arab thinkers and writers beginning to rethink their worldview. Hopefully this is the start of an Arab Glasnost...and one more successful than the Russian variety.
"Actually, she WAS six years old when she was taken in marriage, but the consummation did not occur until she was nine lunar years, or eight years and eight months"
Then I apologize for my comment, as it was in error.
The last thing I want to do is be known for spreading falsehoods about the lovely 'religion' of Islam.
Thank you.
Ha ha ha ha!
You're killin' me here with the understated irony bit. Just how can one slander the Phony Religion Of Peace (P.R.O.P.) anyway? They do such a magnificent job of it themselves!
A.A.C.
Avowed Infidel enemy of the ArabianArchPlagiarist.
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