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Saudi Columnist: We Must Discuss Why We Hate the Jews
MEMRI ^ | May 27, 2005 | Hussein Shubakshi

Posted on 05/30/2005 12:56:59 PM PDT by Alouette

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To: Alouette

Great question.

I hope that they figger it out, soon.


41 posted on 05/30/2005 6:31:40 PM PDT by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

It was fun (and too easy, with this Islamic bunch) - enjoy what's left of the weekend.


42 posted on 05/30/2005 6:33:49 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Alouette

Anyone that can harbor hate has a mental illness.


43 posted on 05/30/2005 6:34:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

The Awakening of Fred Nerks...(or, read the biography of the 'prophet' see tagline for link to free pdf.)


Arutz Sheva - IsraelNationalNews.com




The Life of Muhammad
by "Fred Nerks"
October 26, 2003

You learn something every day, don’t you? I did, yesterday. The wife’s mother passed away not long ago and Myrtle and I finally got around to packing up her things to give to charity. She used to read a lot. I suppose that’s where I got it from, I’ve always got my nose in a book. History is what I like. That’s why I kept The Life of Muhammad, written by The Rev. C. Sell. Myrtle’s Mum must have had it for ages, the binding is a mess and no wonder, it was printed in 1913. I stayed up half the night to read it.

First of all, I think what Sell had to say, way back then, is interesting, because he quotes from ancient Arabic sources all the way through and there are so many footnotes, including in Arabic script, that he must have done an awful lot of research. I also noticed that Sell was a Fellow of the University of Madras, who wrote nine other books on the subject of Islam.

I’m no great scholar myself, but for the life of me, I can’t understand why anyone on earth would call this business of Islam a religion - not after what I just read. Right from the start, that strange fellow Muhammad was a worry. Did you know he used to have fits? It was said ‘he was destined for great things’ when he was young because, as we know, they didn’t understand mental illnesses then. When he was ‘indisposed’, for example, his nurse always placed him into a darkened room and covered him with scented, wet cloths until he felt better. And he heard voices. In his head.

His mother didn’t have much time for him either. She gave him back to his wet-nurse to care for when he was only two years old and then she died, so he never saw her again. His uncle looked after him for a while, but he died too, and left him an orphan to live in the streets.

We all know, don’t we, how important those early years are and how young people can fall under bad influences. This young fellow ended up with the beggars on the steps of a temple somewhere - I think they worshipped a moon god then - and they annoyed everyone else because they were loud and dirty, so they were often driven out by the folk of the town. But they always came back.

There were a lot of Hebrew people living in the area and he listened to them. Somehow, he must have picked up on the idea of a more powerful god than the moon god and that black stone they worshipped. And they had idols, way back then. He soaked up everything he heard and started to preach, which made the townsfolk even more angry.

Now it seems he heard about Jesus, too. And his mother, and the holy ghost. And all the prophets in the Old Testament. So he took a bit of this and a bit of that and hashed it all together and that made him a prophet, right? And prophets need followers. He had nine to start with. They hung onto every word he said. But he needed more than that, to prove how his messages were coming from a ‘divine’ source, so he would go to a cave somewhere nearby and listen to the words of some archangel. Frankly, I think he was listening to himself. But it worked. Everything was suddenly from a ‘divine source’ and he had it made.

Right. Now Muhammad got messages whenever it suited him, or when he needed them, and he said some nice things in the beginning. He had to, to be allowed to stay. But as he got more powerful, because he got more followers, who were robbing camel caravans and killing the merchants, he got nastier and nastier. He could get a message from the archangel to kill anyone he liked. Simple.

As time went by, any reasonably decent thing he said in the past was outdated. Abrogated. That was a new word for me. But I know what it means. It’s like saying, I take it all back.

Why would I bother to write this for you, you might ask; so I’ll tell you. Because all this was written down by Sell in 1913, before oil, before the Saudi Kingdom, before Arafat and everything you had to put up with since. And the first thing that stands out in the career of this monster - and he was one, make no mistake about that - was when they cut the heads off eight hundred Jewish men at Medina and buried them in a mass grave. The women were divided as slaves amongst his gang. Lord knows what they did to the children.

And the angel came then too, I guess, because Mohammad said this is what he heard:

“Oh prophet! We allow thee thy wives whom thou hast dowered, and the slaves whom thy right hand possesseth out of the booty which God hath granted thee. And he caused those of the people of the Book who had aided the confederates to come down out of their fortresses, and cast dismay into their hearts: some ye slew, others ye took prisoners. And he gave you their land, and their dwellings and their wealth for an heritage.”

How very convenient.

For a very long time, for the life of me, I couldn’t understand why the followers of this killer-cult, even today, want to see every Jew on the planet dead. Then it hit me. After I read that book. You folk are the Living Witness of their foul misdeeds since Muhammad and his gang of plundering, murderous cutthroats first killed and stole everything you had, including the words of your wise men. And what does a criminal do, if he can?

Remove all the witnesses from the face of the earth, of course.

I’ll leave you with the Rev. Canon Sell’s final words: “Muhammad thus stands out as unique, amongst the founders of those religions which prevail at the present time amongst large populations, as the one who established his position by force of arms; and by claiming divine authority for so doing, has made such a procedure a sacred law, when circumstances allow of it, for all lands and all time.”


“According to Muslim theology, Muhammad’s actions were the result of supernatural guidance, a divine impulse within him; therefore, they were the deeds of a sinless and perfect man, to which all Muhammadans must conform. They form the highest ideal and the most perfect conception of life which Islam can present.”

Maybe it’s time to have that book I have just finished reading printed again. The time might just be right. It was printed by The Christian Literature Society For India, and they have learned a thing or two about Islam in India, too, haven’t they?

I’m no prophet myself, but it’s been a real revelation, I can tell you. Whoever it was that said Islam is a religion of peace must take the cake for the biggest lie ever told. And you don’t need to be a scholar or have a Phd to understand that.


44 posted on 05/30/2005 6:39:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: F15Eagle

"The Hadith Volume..."

You do know that Mohammed was dead when this stuff was written? That the stuff his wives testified to was left out, as they were only women? Like Jesus, we have only the testimony of his followers as to what Mohammed said. I'd say Jesus's followers did a better job of reporting his words than Mohammmed's folowers, but from the way I see some people talking about it, I sometimes wonder. Not every Muslim goes looking in the Hadith for reasons to hate people, and Christians should not be doing that with the Old or New Testaments for that purpose.

There are so-called Muslims out there who believe exactly what you posted, like Bin Laden and his lot, but to claim they are all alike sounds really "liberal" to me.


45 posted on 05/30/2005 6:53:55 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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To: AmericanArchConservative

I used to think that these jihad baboons had an inferiority complex, but their actions have convinced me that they are merely inferior.


46 posted on 05/30/2005 8:36:02 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Alouette
"…The extent of tremendous hatred of the Jews is baffling. Therefore we ask, 'Why do we hate the Jews?'

He may as well have added Christians too!

A quick peek at the Quran may be a very good place to start. Anyone capable of reading in the language it is written in can likely trace the logic there in as much time as it takes to hit the first batch of passages out of hundreds.

I sure hope the "final exam" is harder than this!

48 posted on 05/30/2005 8:49:11 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: littlelilac

Maimonides, Moses ben Maimon, died before the Ottoman Empire.


49 posted on 05/30/2005 9:38:02 PM PDT by dervish
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To: littlelilac

Nice post. Mohammed resented that the Jews did not follow him as the Messiah.

"But as noted, the Jews rejected Mohammed's overtures and rejected Islam. Consequently, the rejected self-proclaimed Apostle had bitter feelings towards them, writing (Koran Sura 2:83): "The curse of God is on the infidels whom God gave a Book [the Koran] confirming what they [the Jews] had already received [in the Torah], but which they turned their back on." As for the Moslem tradition concerning Mohammed's vision of a night journey to Jerusalem on his horse Burak, reported in the Koran, Sura 17, without any mention of Jerusalem - the 230-meter Arabic inscription around the Dome of the Rock, supposedly built to celebrate Mohammed's alleged ascent to Heaven from that Rock of the Foundation, makes no mention of that alleged journey."

http://christianactionforisrael.org/direction.html


50 posted on 05/30/2005 9:56:47 PM PDT by dervish
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To: SJackson

bttt


51 posted on 05/31/2005 2:18:17 AM PDT by lainde
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To: Oberon; Alouette

:) Great!


52 posted on 05/31/2005 7:07:32 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Nachum; Alouette


Exactly, Nachum!
53 posted on 05/31/2005 7:11:08 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Old Student
Christians should not be doing that with the Old or New Testaments for that purpose.

Man, I been nursing this grudge against the Hittites for so long...you mean I gotta give it up? Also, those Edomites...never trusted 'em. And the Jebusites were nothing but trouble.

I guess I'll have to let all that go...! =]

54 posted on 05/31/2005 7:25:44 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
Thanks for all the pings AAC.

"ArabianArchPaedophile" indeed. I'm still waiting for the day that Muslims grant Jews the "right of return" back into the Hijaz and allow them to reclaim their lands. "The Prophet Muhammad Had Good Relations with the Jews" my butt. I have to laugh as the spew tales of how maintained relations with them, married a Jewess, and entrusted his armor to his Jewish neighbor and asked about this Jew when he was missing and sick.

Perhaps the true stories of Mohemmedan massacres, Safiyah (whose family he was responsible for killing before the filthy 57 year old pervert forced the 17 year old Jewish girl old to marry him) and Abu Afak elude these people.. or perhaps they are content with sticking to taquiyya and kitman when humoring the ignorant kuffar.

I would take them a lot more seriously if they could openly admit the truth of what MuhamMAD (pork be upon him) was really guilty of.

55 posted on 05/31/2005 10:04:26 AM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Fred Nerks
Excellent post Fred.

Remove all the witnesses from the face of the earth, of course.

Unfortunately, many have not woken up to the ultimate goals of satans minions, and still think they can or should be bargained with or appeased.

56 posted on 05/31/2005 10:09:37 AM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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