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Red Star Over Hollywood: The Film Colony's Long Romance With The Left (book)
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Posted on 05/31/2005 10:40:05 AM PDT by EveningStar

Red Star Over Hollywood: The Film Colony's Long Romance With The Left

by Ronald Radosh, Allis Radosh

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Until now, Hollywood's political history has been dominated by a steady stream of films and memoirs decrying the "nightmare" of the Red Scare and how it victimized political innocents. But in RED STAR OVER HOLLYWOOD, Ronald and Allis Radosh tell for the first time the "backstory" behind this myth.

(Excerpt) Read more at amazon.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: blacklist; communism; communist; daltontrumbo; hcua; hollywood; hollywoodleft; hollywoodten; huac; marxism; radosh; redstaroverhollywood; sovietunion; treason
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Has anyone read this book? David Horowitz, sitting in for Dennis Prager, is interviewing one of the authors. Sounds like an interesting book.
1 posted on 05/31/2005 10:40:06 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
I have not but The Girls: Sappho Goes to Hollywood, by Diana McLellan, also chronicles how communism came to Hollywood by way of the NY theater scene in the early '20s. It meshes the rumors about Dietrich, Bankhead, Garbo and all the others with a great narrative on the infiltration of communists into Hollywood. Also noted is how the freedom fighter character in Casablanca is based on a communist spy who was revered by the Hollywood crowd.
2 posted on 05/31/2005 10:48:52 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: EveningStar

No I haven't read it, but sure would like to. It sounds as though it will remove the shroud of mystery surrounding a few Hollywood 'Legends'. I'll go see if it's available locally.

-Regards, T.


3 posted on 05/31/2005 10:49:51 AM PDT by T Lady (G.W. Bush to Kerry & the MSM: "I've come to settle the Family Business.")
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To: EveningStar

I re-watched "Casablanca" the other day and noticed that Rick (Humphrey Bogart) spoke of fighting with the "Loyalists" (communists) during the Spanish Civil War. Of course, it was described as fighting "against the fascists," but that is a very misleading way of describing what Franco stood for; his movement had very little in common with the Nazis other than a shared opposition to Marxian communism.


4 posted on 05/31/2005 10:50:11 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: EveningStar
I had heard about this book years ago, but all attempts to find it was futile. It was out of print, not stocked at any library that I had access to.

One story I heard this book tell about was about Lucille Ball as being one of the top ringleaders of her time. I don't know this for sure, but that is one thing I want to get ahold of this book and find out.

5 posted on 05/31/2005 10:54:20 AM PDT by el_texicano
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To: EveningStar

Ronald Radosh, who was raised a communist in NYC then later became a conservative, has authored many books and articles exposing the Communists in the U.S. So he knows what he's talking about.


6 posted on 05/31/2005 10:56:06 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: el_texicano

That would be good to find out. I always thought that Lucy and Desi were Conservatives with John Wayne and Bob Hope. Especially after Castro's take over, I think Desi really became right wing. I could be wrong...


7 posted on 05/31/2005 10:57:34 AM PDT by Ragtop (We are the people our parents warned us about)
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To: Ragtop

Lucille Ball did have a card from the Communist Party. She signed up as a young woman because her dying grandfather (who was a communist) asked her to do son. Desi Arnaz did say once "the only thing "red" about that kid is her hair and that even isn't real".


8 posted on 05/31/2005 11:05:06 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
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To: el_texicano
One story I heard this book tell about was about Lucille Ball as being one of the top ringleaders of her time.

She sure looks like a "red" to me. And notice the featured story. Coincidence? I think not!

9 posted on 05/31/2005 11:06:19 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: AngieGOP

Thanks for the info! That's good to know!


10 posted on 05/31/2005 11:06:55 AM PDT by Ragtop (We are the people our parents warned us about)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

I saw this guy on bootnotes and he was fantastic! I have wondered why we keep being told how bad the blacklist was by the hollywood crowd and the relatives from the "10". One died within the last couple of years in Santa Barbara and he was openly a life long commie.

I didn't see the start of the program, so I didn't hear that he was raised a communist, but he certainly had Jack Valenti backpedalling. He offered a very concise and knowledgeable prespective to hollywood activities throughout that time and beyond.

I ordered the book . . .


11 posted on 05/31/2005 11:09:30 AM PDT by Rdev
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To: Steve_Seattle
I think the left plays a game to it's advantage by defining all fascists or right win dictators as being just like Nazis. If it weren't for Hitler, could any other fascist really hold a candle to Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Pol Pot for the number of civilians murdered, the suffering they caused, or the horrible shape that they left their countries in? At least the right rejects Nazism. When was the last time someone in the mainstream left had a disparaging thing to say about a communist hell-hole like North Korea?
12 posted on 05/31/2005 11:09:42 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: rabidralph

My grandfather was a Hollywood studio union carpenter in the 1940's and his brother was a stunt man as well. They were both FBI informants regarding communist activities where they worked. My G'father died before my birth, but my Uncle could tell stories that would curl your hair. My Uncle "Vin" was instrumental in my becoming a "Youth for Goldwater". The "commies" it seems, are like the poor; "they will always be with us".


13 posted on 05/31/2005 11:12:53 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: EveningStar

Michael Medved has been speaking about this for years...even those Hollywood brats of today are leaning way, way to the hateful left and denigrating our country and military in their "movies." More pandering from Hollywood to the leftist dictators and they will not stop until they feel they can claim victory...while...(and this is their fervent prayer)....while....America burns.....


14 posted on 05/31/2005 11:16:08 AM PDT by smiley
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To: Question_Assumptions

Good point RE the fascists vs the socialists.

I just read on the Amazon blurb that even Groucho had toured the USSR and came back a commie. I wonder if he ever had 2nd thoughts after learning of the horrors perpetrated by Stalin. Reading that about him saddened me. I've always gathered from watching some of their films that the Marx brothers were leftists, but I've also always enjoyed most of their work.


15 posted on 05/31/2005 11:17:03 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Question_Assumptions

When I was a kid living at home (1970's), my folks had the Academy Awards on the tube. One award winner, some director, gave some speech praising the Khmer Rouge for "liberating" Cambodia. My folks could not understand at the time why their son was giving the finger at the TV, and cursing that director to hell (including bleeping traitor scum). Then later the stories about the killing fields in Cambodia emerged.


16 posted on 05/31/2005 11:24:06 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (I live in Minnesota, I run a business in Minnesota, but I remain a TEXAN!)
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To: Tanniker Smith; Alouette; SJackson; mhking; cyborg; GummyIII; Borges; Xenalyte; beaversmom; ...

ping


17 posted on 05/31/2005 11:39:33 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: rabidralph
Closer to late 20s. When Sound came in the Studio bosses raided the NY Theater world for writers, directors and actors with good voices. The NY Theater world at the time was of course made up of Clifford Odets types.
18 posted on 05/31/2005 11:43:25 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Sam Cree

I once did a research paper on the Great Groucho. From what I learned, while he was a lefty in the twenties and thirties, he gradually became disillusioned with the Hollywood left, particularly those who embraced Communnism. In fact, he once said that he could not take seriously those pink screenwriters who sang "Let the People Arise" while doing laps in their pools in Beverly Hills." As an old man, he said in an interview that if someone was so crazy about Communism, then let them go "over there and live."


19 posted on 05/31/2005 11:53:10 AM PDT by AnnGora (I'm in a pithy mood. Muth be P M ETH.)
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To: Clemenza; doug from upland

ping


20 posted on 05/31/2005 11:54:28 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: AnnGora

Most of the artists who had love affairs with Marxism in the first half of the 20th century generally came to their sense later on. (John Dos Passos, Richard Wright...) Most of them would be moderate liberals today if not conservatives.


21 posted on 05/31/2005 12:00:53 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Fred Hayek
One award winner, some director, gave some speech praising the Khmer Rouge for "liberating" Cambodia.

That would be Bert Schneider, who was behind "Hearts and Minds."

22 posted on 05/31/2005 12:01:18 PM PDT by Clemenza (Vader 2008: In your heart, you know he's right)
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To: Clemenza

He was also one of the creators of The Monkees and Easy Rider. Collaborated with Jack Nicholson quite a bit at the height of the Counterculture. And to be fair was on the far left fringe of the Hollywood Left along with Haskell Wexler and such others.


23 posted on 05/31/2005 12:05:59 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Schneider and Nicholson cowrote "Head", only memorable because the Monkees get KILLED OFF at the beginning.


24 posted on 05/31/2005 12:07:06 PM PDT by Clemenza (Vader 2008: In your heart, you know he's right)
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To: EveningStar
David Horowitz is a treasure for anti-communism/socialism expose's..
He knows where the bodies are buried... Vastly under-rated political pundit.. and RINO exposer..

David Horowitz is enemy #1 to american socialists.. not 2,3, or 4..
They would probably kill him if it wouldn't advertise his books.. which do more harm to american socialism.. as it WOULD.. As a third generation american communist its amazing he saw the light.. "Red Diaper" babys tend to be brain washed from their youth..

25 posted on 05/31/2005 12:09:34 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: el_texicano
Lucille Ball as being one of the top ringleaders of her time

The redhead was red? Would that make Desi Arnez a Castro mole?

26 posted on 05/31/2005 12:09:56 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus

If Desi was a communist he was one hell of a business man.


27 posted on 05/31/2005 12:10:32 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
If Desi was a communist he was one hell of a business man.

Comrade, I'm home!

28 posted on 05/31/2005 12:14:02 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Borges

There was a recent story about Desi, in which it was detailed that he secretly funded efforts to overthrow Castro.


29 posted on 05/31/2005 12:14:12 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: Borges; Semper Paratus
Desi Arnaz contributed to both Nixon and Reagan. Not much of a communist I would think.

Then again, Armand Hammer was close friends with Nancy Reagan. No wonder Nancy loved the color "red."

30 posted on 05/31/2005 12:14:37 PM PDT by Clemenza (Vader 2008: In your heart, you know he's right)
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To: Semper Paratus

It was long ago revealed that she had attended some meeting, while an uninformed teen, at the request of a close relative. She never became a communist.


31 posted on 05/31/2005 12:15:37 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: Borges

I never thought Desi was a commie. I don't think "Red" Skelton was either. :D


32 posted on 05/31/2005 12:16:27 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Clemenza

Desi Arnaz Secretly Funded Anti-Castro Groups
Newsmax ^ | Sunday, May. 09, 2004


Posted on 05/09/2004 12:28:20 PM CDT by nickcarraway


Desi Arnaz of "I Love Lucy" fame and fortune helped finance the freedom of hundreds of Bay of Pigs fighters captured in 1961 by Cuban government forces, veterans say.


A belated thank you to the late entertainer has now happened, 18 years after he died.


This past Friday, according to a Miami Herald report, surviving vets of the Bay of Pigs invasion presented a posthumous award to daughter Lucie Arnaz for his "moral support and generosity."


That generosity was legend among Bay of Pigs veterans.


"He always supported the Cuban cause," said Felix Rodriguez Mendigutia, president of Bay of Pigs Veterans Association. "Anything against Fidel Castro, he supported."


In accepting the award, Lucie Arnaz said her father would have felt honored. She revealed that even she was unaware that her famous father had given money to the cause of the imprisoned invaders, but said it would be consistent with his character and his sympathies.


"Knowing my dad and my grandfather, I'm sure they were emotionally very involved in the Bay of Pigs invasion. I'm sure my father would be very proud to be acknowledged," Arnaz added.


Surrounded by admirers of her father at the Miami event, Arnaz said, "I feel like I have a lot of friends and family here. We're all probably related." Desi Arnaz was a native-born Cuban.


Nilo Messer, vice president of the association and one of the invaders who were imprisoned, said, "We would always get news from the common prisoners and the employees. Someone told me that Desi Arnaz was helping with the efforts to get us out. He was one of the people pushing for a commission to negotiate our release."


The veterans say Arnaz donated $50,000 — an amount worth about $300,000 today. Reportedly, Arnaz gave the money to a commission headed by Eleanor Roosevelt that arranged to send $53 million worth of food, medicine and farm equipment to Cuba in exchange for the prisoners' release.


Arnaz also provided seed money for several exile organizations, said the Herald report. Arnaz also is said to have provided the contact that led to liberated prisoners appearing on the Ed Sullivan show.


"He cooperated a lot," Rodriguez said. "And he never sought any publicity for helping us or anyone else. Now that he's gone, we want to honor his memory."


33 posted on 05/31/2005 12:18:09 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: Paul Atreides

Since the '30s there were was the above-ground CPUSA and the underground cells both controlled from Moscow.


34 posted on 05/31/2005 12:19:59 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Paul Atreides

Desi's dad was the conservative mayor of Santiago de Cuba back in the 1920s, I believe. Not a big fan of Fidel.


35 posted on 05/31/2005 12:20:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (Vader 2008: In your heart, you know he's right)
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To: EveningStar
But, but....Tim Robbins said "...talking about Hollywood as something that operates in lockstep on any issue is kind of ludicrous..."

FGS

36 posted on 05/31/2005 12:20:42 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: smiley

'...even those Hollywood brats of today are leaning way, way to the hateful left and denigrating our country and military in their "movies."'

Speaking of one of those Hollywood brats, Henry Fonda, dad of Jane, was a life-long Democrat and a member of the ACLU, this according to the audio commentary by Film Historian Drew Casper on the 'Advise and Consent'(1962) DVD release. This is particularly interesting, since the role he plays in the film is a Secretary of State nominee with excessive Leftward political leanings.

-Regards, T.


37 posted on 05/31/2005 12:21:28 PM PDT by T Lady (G.W. Bush to Kerry & the MSM: "I've come to settle the Family Business.")
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To: hosepipe

I like Horowitz a lot. It was a treat to hear him today. He and the author had a good segment.


38 posted on 05/31/2005 12:22:08 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: T Lady

Henry Fonda was a standard liberal. He said at the end of his life that the three favorite films he made in his career were 'The Grapes of Wrath' 'The Ox Bow Incident' and 'Twelve Angry Men'.


39 posted on 05/31/2005 12:36:41 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Absolutely correct. I found this out while watching 'The Ox-Bow Incident' on TCM several weeks ago, when the channel paid a 100th birthday tribute to the actor. As for daughter Jane, the apple sure as heck didn't fall far from the tree, huh?

-Regards, T.


40 posted on 05/31/2005 12:54:44 PM PDT by T Lady (G.W. Bush to Kerry & the MSM: "I've come to settle the Family Business.")
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To: T Lady

Well I wouldn't compare a garden variety liberal like Henry to the quasi Marxist that Jane was...at least in the 60s and 70s. H. Fonda was best of friends with Jimmy Stewart btw.


41 posted on 05/31/2005 12:57:40 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

'H. Fonda was best of friends with Jimmy Stewart btw.'

Lifelong friends...in fact, they were roomates in college before hitting Tinseltown. And you're right, compared to his daughter Hank was rather tame.

-Regards, T.


42 posted on 05/31/2005 1:03:15 PM PDT by T Lady (G.W. Bush to Kerry & the MSM: "I've come to settle the Family Business.")
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To: AnnGora

Thank you.


43 posted on 05/31/2005 1:15:25 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: beaversmom

ping for later


44 posted on 05/31/2005 1:17:44 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Fred Hayek
If you can get me a name or even a year, I'd appreciate it. The left likes to rewrite history and pretend that they didn't support a group that murdered a third of Cambodia's population. A finger? They deserve a stake through their cold dead hearts.
45 posted on 05/31/2005 1:31:55 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions

see Posts 22 and 23.


46 posted on 05/31/2005 1:59:10 PM PDT by Borges
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To: drjimmy

"...One story I heard this book tell about was about Lucille Ball as being one of the top ringleaders of her time.

She sure looks like a "red" to me. And notice the featured story. Coincidence? I think not!..."

Not to mention the color of the magazine's border.


47 posted on 05/31/2005 2:02:52 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (AN ACTIVIST JUDICIARY IS A CULT!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Borges
Thanks. Guess I should have read the whole thread...
48 posted on 05/31/2005 2:22:53 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Sam Cree; AnnGora
While the Marx Brothers were standard old-school immigrant liberals (they supported Al Smith in 1928), I don't think they were Communists. None of them were ever "blacklisted" during the alleged anti-Communist "reign of terror." Though Groucho was used as an icon by the hippies and the New Left I don't think he was every anything other than a lifelong liberal Democrat (though there's a website somewhere that features an alleged FBI report on "Graucho" making a speech in which he called for a "Soviet America").

Harpo Marx was sent to Russia by FDR at the time he was preparing to recognize that government (11/1933). In his "auto"biography (yeah, so it was ghost written; but all Hollywood biographies are!) he explicitly mentions having to view an anti-religious propaganda play. While he said he had never been a religious person, the tastelessness of that play still made him sick. He also pointed out that Communist Russia was not a free country.

The political orientation of the Marx Brothers saddens me, but I still love their stuff!

Hey, at least Zeppo invented military equipment!

49 posted on 05/31/2005 2:54:17 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Arur hagever 'asher yivtach ba'adam vesam basar zero`o, umin HaShem yasur libbo!)
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To: EveningStar

BUMP


50 posted on 05/31/2005 4:00:52 PM PDT by kitkat
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