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Deep Throat and Genocide
The American Spectator ^ | 6-1-05 | Ben Stein

Posted on 06/01/2005 5:55:15 AM PDT by veronica

Re: The "news" that former FBI agent Mark Felt broke the law, broke his code of ethics, broke his oath and was the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward's articles that helped depose Richard Nixon, a few thoughts.

Can anyone even remember now what Nixon did that was so terrible? He ended the war in Vietnam, brought home the POW's, ended the war in the Mideast, opened relations with China, started the first nuclear weapons reduction treaty, saved Eretz Israel's life, started the Environmental Protection Administration. Does anyone remember what he did that was bad?

Oh, now I remember. He lied. He was a politician who lied. How remarkable. He lied to protect his subordinates who were covering up a ridiculous burglary that no one to this date has any clue about its purpose. He lied so he could stay in office and keep his agenda of peace going. That was his crime. He was a peacemaker and he wanted to make a world where there was a generation of peace. And he succeeded.

That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker. He was a lying, conniving, covering up peacemaker. He was not a lying, conniving drug addict like JFK, a lying, conniving war starter like LBJ, a lying conniving seducer like Clinton -- a lying conniving peacemaker. That is Nixon's kharma.

When his enemies brought him down, and they had been laying for him since he proved that Alger Hiss was a traitor, since Alger Hiss was their fair-haired boy, this is what they bought for themselves in the Kharma Supermarket that is life:

1.) The defeat of the South Vietnamese government with decades of death and hardship for the people of Vietnam.

2.) The assumption of power in Cambodia by the bloodiest government of all time, the Khmer Rouge, who killed a third of their own people, often by making children beat their own parents to death. No one doubts RN would never have let this happen.

So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.

Ben Stein is a writer, actor, economist, and lawyer in Beverly Hills and Malibu, and author of "Ben Stein's Diary" each month in The American Spectator.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apologist; benstein; deepthroat; goodriddance; markfelt; nixon; nixonlegacy
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1 posted on 06/01/2005 5:55:15 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

The most terrible thing that he did is be a Republican. This to our great MSM is worse than being a murderer.


2 posted on 06/01/2005 5:58:34 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: veronica

Nixon was a republican, nothing more need be said.


3 posted on 06/01/2005 5:58:53 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: veronica

Sorry, Ben Stein, but this is a stretch. Nixon wanted POWER!!
He wasn't framed. He deserved a forced resignation and infamy. And would Nixon have prevented the killing fields? I tend to doubt it.


5 posted on 06/01/2005 6:01:21 AM PDT by bejaykay
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To: veronica

I love Ben Stein.


6 posted on 06/01/2005 6:01:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Uhhuh35
Uh, he tried to cover up the Watergate break-in

Uhhhhhhhhhhh...so the [expletive deleted] what?

7 posted on 06/01/2005 6:02:38 AM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("Those that hate you don't win, unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself." -Richard Nixon)
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To: Uhhuh35

8 posted on 06/01/2005 6:02:44 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: veronica

Great find; thanks for posting this!


9 posted on 06/01/2005 6:03:08 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (McCain 2008: Because sometimes you have to sell out your party to please the mainstream media.)
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To: Uhhuh35
I never could understand why he thought he had to spy on ANY Demoncrat.

He didn't! Subordinates did.

10 posted on 06/01/2005 6:04:09 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: Steve0113

ping


11 posted on 06/01/2005 6:04:14 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: veronica

Nixon was not a ..."lying conniving seducer like Clinton...".

I think the correct phrase here is not "seducer" but "serial rapist". Clinton is a common criminal, not a good 'ol boy politician, who was indicted (by impeachment) but not convicted by the good 'ol boy network of cronies and thieves who comprise the US Senate. So, too, his "wife" is a criminal, who has yet to be indicted, but that would be too much to expect given her tentacles into too many folks.


12 posted on 06/01/2005 6:04:57 AM PDT by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: veronica
Gee, how 'bout imposing wage and price controls? That was pretty evil.

'Course Nixon did a lot of good things, like fighting communism with Roy Cohn and Joe McCarthy.
13 posted on 06/01/2005 6:05:01 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: bejaykay
And would Nixon have prevented the killing fields? I tend to doubt it

Then your historical ignorance is the equal of your snarky arrogance.

EOM.

14 posted on 06/01/2005 6:05:20 AM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("Those that hate you don't win, unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself." -Richard Nixon)
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To: Uhhuh35

Nixon tried to cover up a break-in to spy on Dems. The Clintons were caught red-handed with FBI files of Republican at the White House.

The left glorifies one and condemns the other - hypocrites.


15 posted on 06/01/2005 6:05:59 AM PDT by lnbchip
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To: bejaykay
Nixon wanted POWER!!

OMG! Really? They should have hung him.

Of course, if "wanting power" is a crime, then every elected and non-elected official in Washington, as well as every member of the MSM is also guilty.

I know -- let's have a mass lynching party!

16 posted on 06/01/2005 6:06:48 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: veronica

I don't think Nixon ordered the burglary. When he found out his subordinated did this, his mistake was trying to protect them from being found out.


17 posted on 06/01/2005 6:07:34 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: lnbchip

You can always tell who has been raised on MSM propaganda.


18 posted on 06/01/2005 6:07:38 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Uhhuh35

You are aware of course that while the REpubs were spying on Democrats the Democrats were also spying on Repubs? A well proven fact that the Democrats also had spying and tapping operations as well.


19 posted on 06/01/2005 6:08:41 AM PDT by ikka
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To: A Jovial Cad

Oooo! That's gonna leave a well-deserved mark.


20 posted on 06/01/2005 6:09:14 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: Uhhuh35

Many contend Nixon was trying to tie the DNC in with the VVAW which had voted on killing prominent lawmakers. In other words, if the burglars had found what they were looking for, John F'n Kerry would not be a Senator today.


21 posted on 06/01/2005 6:09:16 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Only two requisites to be a judge. Gray hair to look wise and hemmorhoids to look concerned.)
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To: Safetgiver

Interesting, do you have any more info?


22 posted on 06/01/2005 6:12:22 AM PDT by enraged
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To: browardchad

Yes he wanted power, as opposed to the original argument that Mr. Stein made that all he wanted was peace. Now c'mon, Nixon was not a Miss America contestant. Ben Stein's argument is a stre-e-t-t-cch. I will ignore your name calling. Nothing I said was arrogant.


23 posted on 06/01/2005 6:14:13 AM PDT by bejaykay
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To: veronica
I think Sissy Matthews actually had a wet-dream on camera while idolizing one of his lifetime heroes.

Remember how the Old Media treated leaker Linda Tripp?

24 posted on 06/01/2005 6:16:44 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun
Remember how the Old Media treated leaker Linda Tripp?

Indeed I do, and I made that exact point on another thread.

25 posted on 06/01/2005 6:17:41 AM PDT by veronica (Never trust a Worm...)
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To: veronica
WTG Ben!
26 posted on 06/01/2005 6:18:40 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: veronica

I love Ben Stein.


27 posted on 06/01/2005 6:19:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: bejaykay

Sorry, Ben Stein, but this is a stretch. Nixon wanted POWER!!

Sorry, but Nixon had power. He was President of the United States and had been reelected in 1972 with an overwhelming mandate, i.e., 49 states (520 electoral votes, which was almost 97% of the total) and 61% of the popular vote. Nixon received a higher percentage of the popular vote than even Reagan in 1984.

28 posted on 06/01/2005 6:20:08 AM PDT by kabar
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To: veronica

It's still not certain that he lied concerning the third-rate burglary.


29 posted on 06/01/2005 6:20:25 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: bejaykay; F-117A

The reason that the White House "Plumbers" got started was to plug up security leaks (hint - leaks/plumbers!!) where sensitive intelligence information was being leaked out, some of it going directly to the Soviet Union.

Remember Daniel Ellsberg, who LEAKED the Pentagon Papers. Other information would get to the Democrats (sort of like having Senate Intelligence Committee meetings in secret, but the secrets would leak over to the Soviet Union ...)

Much of what the Plumbers were doing, while "questionable", was designed to protect our country's secrets (unlike Clinton's goon squad that protected his sorry little head.)

Nixon didn't want POWER .... he had the power he wanted as the President. He didn't want our country being sold down the river. He didn't want a repeat of the Korean War experience where Red sympathizers leaked military plans to UN personnel, who would then advise the Soviet Union of what the plans were. Nixon wanted to win the war in South Viet Nam, with honor .... but the Democrats in the U.S. would rather see us defeated.

BJK: Ben Stein is fairly accurate with his article. Your supposition is just plain mean . .. and wrong. If Nixon wanted power, he would have acted the way Clinton did (who wanted power to puff himself up) ... and he would have persuaded 1/3 of the Senate to hand tough and fight the articles of impeachment ... and he could have prevailed (like Clinton did). But he chose to do the right thing, and he resigned.

Mike


30 posted on 06/01/2005 6:20:55 AM PDT by Vineyard
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To: veronica

Lets launch an investigation into Felt's actions. Maybe we can take the traitor's pension away.


31 posted on 06/01/2005 6:22:21 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: bejaykay
... Nixon wanted POWER!! ...

Wrong! As is your assumption of 'the killing fields'. Nixon knew the extent of the communist infiltration into all of our institutions. When he was forced to resign, in infamy, it was a communist victory. Your observation has been noted. What shocked Tricky Dick wasn't the extent of the communist infiltration into our institutions; what shocked him was the extent of communist indoctrination into the minds of Americans.

32 posted on 06/01/2005 6:23:57 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: bejaykay
Nothing I said was arrogant

I'm the one who commented on your arrogance, not the poster you replied to here. Ignorance is now ahead by a nose, BTW & IMO.

EOM.

33 posted on 06/01/2005 6:24:04 AM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
It's still not certain that he lied concerning the third-rate burglary.

No, but it's probable that he impeded the investigation. Regardless, he was clearly held to a different standard than would a Democrat.
34 posted on 06/01/2005 6:24:04 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: veronica

Mr. Nixon, having won the 1968 election in a squeaker, wished to manipulate the 1972 election to assure victory. Internal polling a year or two before the election indicated the only candidate over which he'd have a walk was Sen. George McGovern. Thus, the CREEP (Committee to Re-Elect the President) did what it could to aid the senator and harm his opponents.

In this, Mr. Nixon did nothing that Dammocraps haven't done before, and likely much less. But when it became apparent to the Republican leadership that Mr. Nixon had likely committed felonies, the Republican leadership informed Mr. Nixon that he had to go.

That is a critical difference between Republicans and Dammocraps. Republicans hold fast to the concept that the president may not be a felon. Dammocraps celebrate their felon presidents.


35 posted on 06/01/2005 6:26:24 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: beezdotcom

True, but since he claimed (and probably quite rightly) that Congress was out-of-line, he had a point. Nixon was lily-white when compared to LBJ and Kennedy. And concerning Clinton...let's not even go there.


36 posted on 06/01/2005 6:26:32 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: OldFriend
One more thing needs to be said, Hillary,Hitlary, she played a very big role in bringing down a President. This
low life scum that wanted the White House, got it and didn't care who had to die along the way and the she now
sits in the Senate. Put there by none other than the NY times and the TERRORIST Groups that attacked this country.
Hitlary on the rise again and she and her COMMUNIST left
wingers and terrorist buddies are trying hard to bring down
another President. Hitlary and her Communist lefty buddies
have got to keep the U N scum going and stop all conservative judges from being nominated. As long as the
corruption sits in our Senate and our Courts Hitlary and
her Communist buddies will ride straight to the W H.
Bring down a President, attack your own country and people.
Such pride and glory, what bigger honor could one scum ask
for? THE COWARD CAN NOW COME OUT OF HIDING BECAUSE HE IS
GOING TO DIE. HE WON'T FEEL THE PAIN ON EARTH BUT HE COULD
BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY.
37 posted on 06/01/2005 6:26:46 AM PDT by rebapiper (.)
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To: ikka
The sainted Kennedy brothers, Jovial Jack and Pitbull Bob, found time when they weren't sharing Marilyn Monroe, to run more ILLEGAL wiretaps than any other combo in US history. For all you libs, that meant a lot of additional time in the FBI for old J. Edgar, who knew where all the bodies were buried, and who had files on all their shenanigans. Oh, yeah. JFK and LBJ made major use of bugs, IRS audits, etc. to hound their enemies, including Nixon. JFK got into bed (figuratively) with MoMo Gianacana and the Chicago mob to get elected, and to try to assassinate Castro (not the worst idea he ever had). His, at best, passivity led to the assassination of Pres. Diem, a US ally during a war. Compared to these guys, Uncle Milhouse was a choirboy. He was hounded out of office for two reasons: He had been on the left's hit list since Helen Gahagan Douglas and Hiss, and because the left and their toads in the media could do it.
38 posted on 06/01/2005 6:28:09 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: OldFriend
One more thing needs to be said, Hillary,Hitlary, she played a very big role in bringing down a President. This
low life scum that wanted the White House, got it and didn't care who had to die along the way and the she now
sits in the Senate. Put there by none other than the NY times and the TERRORIST Groups that attacked this country.
Hitlary on the rise again and she and her COMMUNIST left
wingers and terrorist buddies are trying hard to bring down
another President. Hitlary and her Communist lefty buddies
have got to keep the U N scum going and stop all conservative judges from being nominated. As long as the
corruption sits in our Senate and our Courts Hitlary and
her Communist buddies will ride straight to the W H.
Bring down a President, attack your own country and people.
Such pride and glory, what bigger honor could one scum ask
for? THE COWARD CAN NOW COME OUT OF HIDING BECAUSE HE IS
GOING TO DIE. HE WON'T FEEL THE PAIN ON EARTH BUT HE COULD
BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY.
39 posted on 06/01/2005 6:29:07 AM PDT by rebapiper (.)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
True, but since he claimed (and probably quite rightly) that Congress was out-of-line, he had a point. Nixon was lily-white when compared to LBJ and Kennedy. And concerning Clinton...let's not even go there.

That's really what bugs me. How did a man who handled so many critical issues with ease manage to bungle so badly in handling Watergate? You and I both know that, properly handled, it never should have been more than a minor blip, despite the best efforts of the jackals.
40 posted on 06/01/2005 6:32:49 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: veronica
(from a link on Powerlineblog. this morning)

A must read.

41 posted on 06/01/2005 6:34:54 AM PDT by yoe
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To: veronica

Wow! Talk about putting things in historical perspective!


42 posted on 06/01/2005 6:35:25 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Don't let Terri's death be in vain!)
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To: OldFriend

BINGO !!!


43 posted on 06/01/2005 6:36:28 AM PDT by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: Uhhuh35

He didn't. His mistake was loyalty to his own.


44 posted on 06/01/2005 6:36:40 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Don't let Terri's death be in vain!)
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To: bejaykay

Keeping on drinking the kool-aid!


45 posted on 06/01/2005 6:37:07 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Don't let Terri's death be in vain!)
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To: veronica

Nixon ended the war that Kennedy utterly stupidly started.

JFK sent 14,000 ground troops to vietnam with no strategy whatsoever.


46 posted on 06/01/2005 6:37:42 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: veronica

bookmarked


47 posted on 06/01/2005 6:37:59 AM PDT by shadowman99
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To: bejaykay
"Nothing I said was arrogant."

He said, arrogantly!

48 posted on 06/01/2005 6:39:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Don't let Terri's death be in vain!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I love Ben Stein.
I thought the same thing after reading this. He is great.
49 posted on 06/01/2005 6:40:19 AM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: beezdotcom
From what I understand, he himself indicated that understood that coverups cause problems. I believe that he was betrayed by a 'friend' (I forget who - maybe Dean?) who lied to him about the break in several times. He therefore thought that Congress was overstepping on Executive Privilege, so dug in his heels over the issue.

I guess that his big problem was going to bat and showing loyalty for underlings who basically betrayed him.
50 posted on 06/01/2005 6:41:09 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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