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Clinton: ‘I paid a big price’ ('Starr assaulted Constitution, House charges were false')
MSNBC ^ | 6/01/05 | Brian Williams

Posted on 06/01/2005 5:01:22 PM PDT by Libloather

Clinton: ‘I paid a big price’
The former president on his legacy, his health and his wife's future
By Brian Williams
Anchor & “Nightly News” Managing Editor NBC News
Updated: 6:52 p.m. ET June 1, 2005

CHAPPAQUA, N.Y. - Former president Bill Clinton is just back from a grueling 14-day, 12-nation, 16-stop tour.

**SNIP**

I asked the president a blunt question about his legacy and any regrets he may have that impeachment will always play a prominent role in how his presidency is remembered.

Clinton: It probably would, because — but to be fair, you said you're being blunt with me. People in your business like that very much. And they like what Ken Starr did because they thought it made good ink. And they didn't do a very good job of reporting for years all the innocent people he persecuted and indicted because they wouldn't lie...

Williams: And yet...

Clinton: ...and the assault on the American Constitution that he waged...

Williams: This was...

Clinton: ...or that I was acquitted. And that the charges that the House sent to the Senate were false. So I did a bad thing. I made a bad personal mistake. I paid a big price for it. But I was acquitted because the charges were false.

Williams: Guantanamo Bay, Amnesty International says it's become the "gulag" of our time. The president yesterday said that's absurd. Where do you fall on this issue between those two?

Clinton: Just like you said, between those two. My own view is just based on what I read — is that it's part of this kind of gray area we've been in since 9/11.

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The perjury was very real. He lost his law license over it. It must be the meds...
1 posted on 06/01/2005 5:01:23 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

More revisionist history from the great lying scum.


2 posted on 06/01/2005 5:04:11 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: Libloather

President Clinton mistakes the lack of hunger by the people to put a President behind bars for the sake of the office as acquitted.

The office and only his office saved him.

Did he talk about giving missile guidance and rocket technology to China while the hole was at it?

He is a stain on the office.


3 posted on 06/01/2005 5:04:59 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Libloather

Yeah right bill, tell it to the democrats.


4 posted on 06/01/2005 5:05:09 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Libloather

For a man who has spent his life murdering his enemies, raping women, running drugs, and selling out his country, I'd say he has gotten off pretty lightly so far.

I would also say that it was our country that paid a big price on his account.


5 posted on 06/01/2005 5:05:24 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Libloather
And that the charges that the House sent to the Senate were false. So I did a bad thing. I made a bad personal mistake. I paid a big price for it. But I was acquitted because the charges were false.

No they weren't and no you weren't.

6 posted on 06/01/2005 5:05:32 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: Libloather

With Bill, the BS just never stops. Pity me, I'm a victim, he says. He makes the perfect Democrat. Never responsible for anything he does, never accepts any limits on his ego. No wonder the Dems love him so.


7 posted on 06/01/2005 5:05:59 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Libloather
or that I was acquitted

More bs. The sole power of impeachment lies with the House. The Senate can only sentence, not acquit.

Hey Bill, if you were acquitted, why did you have to give up your license to practice law?

And Ken Starr was considered to be a Boy Scout by Dems - before you used the office of POTUS to launch attacks on him.

8 posted on 06/01/2005 5:07:12 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Libloather
But I was acquitted because the charges were false.

No Bill, you were aquitted because too few of your peers didn't have the gonads or morals to convict you.

9 posted on 06/01/2005 5:07:17 PM PDT by umgud (FR, NASCAR, NRA, GOP)
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To: Libloather

This is great that he puts himself out there to remind America how much he and Hillary are despised.

Keep it up, Bill, it's another nail in Hillary's coffin.


10 posted on 06/01/2005 5:07:19 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

Bill why did you bomb Iraq o?


11 posted on 06/01/2005 5:08:49 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: leadpenny

Sadly, not despised by enough voters to give Hillary a huge defeat in 2008. That race will be uncomfortably close.


12 posted on 06/01/2005 5:10:09 PM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: Libloather

He wasn't challeneged when he asserted the charges were false.

As the election draws closer, the media is rehabilitating and building the Clintons up.

They're still crooks. IMO


13 posted on 06/01/2005 5:10:17 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: Libloather
This is what lying scumbags do. They blame everybody else but themselves for their irresponsibility.

Clinton's legacy will always be "There was no one left to lie too."

14 posted on 06/01/2005 5:11:15 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Libloather
Clinton: ...or that I was acquitted. And that the charges that the House sent to the Senate were false. So I did a bad thing. I made a bad personal mistake. I paid a big price for it. But I was acquitted because the charges were false.

The Senate didn't convict because they didn't see any evidence against President Pantsless. They didn't see any evidence because the took a dive and didn't go and look at it.

15 posted on 06/01/2005 5:12:59 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republicans and Democrats no longer exist. There are only Fabian and revolutionary socialists.)
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To: Libloather
Clinton (him) will not have paid "a big price" unless he gets sent to jail with a terminal case of syphilis. Anything less, and he got off easy. I am bone weary of hearing his chronic lying reported in the media on every subject under the sun.

This "man" lies as often and as naturally as most people breath out and breath in. He is a boil on the butt of the body politic that needs to be lanced. I'd say more, but I'd have to use puppets.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "60 Million Frenchmen Can't be Wrong"

16 posted on 06/01/2005 5:13:20 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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To: sirchtruth

Bill Clinton should just now be walking out of Federal prison with all his worldy goods in a paper bag.

He's scum. Was then, is now.


17 posted on 06/01/2005 5:13:42 PM PDT by alarm rider
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To: Libloather

I stood up for the American way of life, says Clinton

Government Miscellaneous Keywords: CLINTON
Source: Electronic Telegraph
Published: 11-10-99 Author: Ben Fenton
Posted on 11/09/1999 23:24:26 PST by Born in a Rage
PRESIDENT CLINTON has presented his survival of impeachment as a personal triumph in which the American people stood at his side in a patriotic fight against enemies of the Constitution.

President Clinton: believes historians of the future will salute his defence of the Constitution Evoking an almost heroic view of his ordeal at the hands of the Republican-controlled Congress, Bill Clinton said historians of the future would salute his defence of the Constitution. His words seemed part of an effort to shape his own political legacy. This process includes reaching out to a population which has always warmed to his personal touch, not least by his first question and answer session on an internet site.

Mr Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives in December for lying to a grand jury when he denied having a sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky. But Republicans in the Senate could not raise the two-thirds majority to remove him.

In an interview with ABC television, Mr Clinton said: "I think that history will view this much differently. They will say I made a bad personal mistake, I paid a serious price for it, but that I was right to stand and fight for my country and my constitution and its principles, and that the American people were very good to stand with me." He put the Lewinsky scandal in the context of other investigations into his conduct, like the Whitewater development deal in Arkansas.

He said: "I made a personal mistake and they spent $50 million trying to ferret it out because they had nothing else to do, because all the other charges were totally false, bogus, made up, and people were persecuted because they wouldn't commit perjury against me. I think that over the long run, the fact that we accomplished as much as we did in the face of the most severe, bitter partisan onslaught . . . will, in a way, make many of the things we achieve seem all the more impressive."

When he appeared on the Web via George Washington University, Mr Clinton likened his internet debut to the "fireside chats" that Franklin Roosevelt held with the American people on the radio, or John F Kennedy's first televised press conferences. Asked by "Mark of England" if he wished he could serve a third term, something prohibited in the constitution, he said: "I love this job and I would continue to do it if I could."

With an online audience of 50,000, he told another questioner that he thought his legacy would be "a time of transformation, hope, of genuine opportunity, a time when we deepened the bonds of freedom".


18 posted on 06/01/2005 5:14:37 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: sarasotarepublican
I have faith in his narcissism. This is just one of a thousand cuts he will inflict on her between now and 08. Keep in mind that he does not want to stand behind her. I know it's hard to accept but he is our friend when it comes to Hillary.
19 posted on 06/01/2005 5:14:39 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Fenris6
The sole power of impeachment lies with the House. The Senate can only sentence, not acquit.

Impeach is like "indict." After the indictment, then the trial. The Senate conducts the trial. It can acquit, but it can't unindict, or unimpeach.

If the Democrats were really smart, they could have pulled a cloture motion, and not voted on judgement in the case at all ;-) (kidding - just kidding. Except it makes about as much sense as using cloture to withhold a vote on a nomination)

20 posted on 06/01/2005 5:14:41 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Libloather

The lying rapist...will never go away.


21 posted on 06/01/2005 5:15:18 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary Clinton is about as welcome as an egg-sucking dog...in my neck of the woods.)
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To: Libloather

I believe it's more like selective memory.

Only a jackass who's been caught on tape lying under oath - can then claim he did "nothing wrong". And .. like you said, if it was "nothing" then why was his law license taken away.

And speaking of that license .. I don't recall having heard of any application by Clinton to get his license back. I believe he only lost it for 5 years so the ban should have expired and he should be able to apply to get it back.


22 posted on 06/01/2005 5:15:35 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Libloather
But, he was just too tired ... he explains it all right here:

Clinton: I wrote about this, you know, in my book. I thought most of the major errors I made in my life, both political and personal, were made when I was too tired. Now, if you work harder and you work smart, you can make more decisions and do more good. But if you work so hard that you can't be smart anymore and you outrun your organizational and management capacities, then you make mistakes. But that's not what's going on here.
23 posted on 06/01/2005 5:15:56 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Libloather
People in your business like that very much. And they like what Ken Starr did because they thought it made good ink.

Ken Starr was lynched by the Stone Age Press. What is he talking about??

Pray for W and Our Troops

24 posted on 06/01/2005 5:16:29 PM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: A CA Guy

Well .. technically, he was acquited. While the House brings impeachment charges and he was impeached (indicted), when it got to the senate, they wouldn't convict - so in effect he was acquited .. but the "impeached" label will be with him forever. Thank goodness.


25 posted on 06/01/2005 5:17:27 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Libloather
Bill Clinton was charged with lying under oath about his affair with Lewinsky to gain advantage in a sexual harassment case brought by Paula Jones, a case he later settled by paying Paula Jones $850,000.

A Federal judge found Clinton also to be in contempt of court for lying in a deposition and ordered him to pay a $90,000 fine. This contempt citation led to disbarment proceedings to remove his law license. To avoid these Clinton surrendered his law license and is no longer allowed to practice law.

26 posted on 06/01/2005 5:18:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Libloather
Clinton: ...or that I was acquitted. And that the charges that the House sent to the Senate were false. So I did a bad thing. I made a bad personal mistake. I paid a big price for it. But I was acquitted because the charges were false.

Can you say Denial ??

Nice try Bill .. but you were never acquitted

27 posted on 06/01/2005 5:19:38 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: CyberAnt

He avoided a firing squad somehow with his business regarind China and giving aid to their missiles.

To me, that action, despite letting Bin Laden go, was what makes him the worst President of all time.

China could NOT hit any target in mainland USA and Clinton (probably for contributions) turned that around and now they can hit any city in the USA, the real Clinton legacy.


28 posted on 06/01/2005 5:20:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Deep Throat 2

29 posted on 06/01/2005 5:21:49 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Looks like she has been swallowing a lot lately by that picture.


30 posted on 06/01/2005 5:25:23 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Libloather
Williams: Guantanamo Bay, Amnesty International says it's become the "gulag" of our time. The president yesterday said that's absurd. Where do you fall on this issue between those two?


Clinton: Just like you said, between those two. My own view is just based on what I read — is that it's part of this kind of gray area we've been in since 9/11.




Just like him not taking a side , but making a bullshat statement about a gray area. He has no convictions whatsoever.
31 posted on 06/01/2005 5:25:35 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Libloather

"...uh... you say Hillary tested positive for whaaat???!!!

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32 posted on 06/01/2005 5:26:53 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: Libloather

He's just getting nervous. Its the revelation of who deep throat is. Bills out denying he ever met the man.


33 posted on 06/01/2005 5:26:59 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Libloather

No!! he is just a self denying F'ing LIAR to the nth degree!!!


34 posted on 06/01/2005 5:28:37 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: CyberAnt; Liz; Howlin
I believe he only lost it for 5 years so the ban should have expired and he should be able to apply to get it back.

I've always wondered - since the impeached *Squirt was convicted of perjury, that would make him a felon. Did he ever get to vote for his so-called wife during her run for Senate - or did he lose his voting privileges?

35 posted on 06/01/2005 5:28:44 PM PDT by Libloather (Hillary, I want my FBI file back...)
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To: Libloather

Monica was the coverup.

Starr and the republicans helped.


36 posted on 06/01/2005 5:29:51 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (It's a M.A.D. Congress, after all!)
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To: Libloather

Like any addiction, Bill Clinton's lying gets his adrenaline going. Did you ever see that feeling of satisfaction smokers get when they take that first drag? That's how Bill Clinton looks whenever he's talking (IE-lying)--the adrenaline flowing to his brain and soothing his addiction. He's also addicted to sex. A man addicted to lying and sex is a dissaster just waiting to happen....and it did.

I predicted he would mess the presidency up when he was running in 1992. I'm no genious. Anyone who read and studied up on him could see it coming. I can also predict Terrel Owens is going to shoot his mouth off again. This isn't rocket science.


37 posted on 06/01/2005 5:30:01 PM PDT by Firefox1 (Clinton)
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To: Libloather

He is delusional.


38 posted on 06/01/2005 5:30:40 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: KarlInOhio

All one hundred traitors.

All one hundred.


39 posted on 06/01/2005 5:31:19 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (It's a M.A.D. Congress, after all!)
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To: Libloather
Williams: Guantanamo Bay, Amnesty International says it's become the "gulag" of our time. The president yesterday said that's absurd. Where do you fall on this issue between those two?

Clinton: Just like you said, between those two. My own view is just based on what I read — is that it's part of this kind of gray area we've been in since 9/11.

Forget his recycled 'Starr was out to get me and you, the media loved it' garbage, this above is beyond the pale for a former U.S. President to lend credence to; The idea that our country even remotely approaches setting up a gulag.

Of course Carter would probably concur.

Clinton has most likely fantasized about incarcerating his enemies and is fond of the gulag idea, actually.

40 posted on 06/01/2005 5:32:33 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: A CA Guy

Trent Lott is what saved William the zipper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








41 posted on 06/01/2005 5:35:25 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Congressman Billybob
Clinton was held in contempt of court, Bob Bennett appeared alone to beg off and then disappeared. Paula Jones won damages. Clinton lost his license to practice law. He was lucky not to be brought up on perjury charges. But I'm being redundant.

So, Billybob.......where was Ken Starr's investigation and the House's impeachment unconstitutional?

Geez Louise, Billybob, don't lance that boil. You're bone tired of Clinton, me too.

Now, on to your column. I deserve a good read after this.

42 posted on 06/01/2005 5:36:09 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Libloather
all the innocent people he persecuted and indicted

Persecuted? Did he mean prosecuted?

43 posted on 06/01/2005 5:36:55 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Peace - that brief moment in history where everyone stands around reloading.)
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To: Libloather

Clinton made history. He's the first person "acquited" that the Judge made pay a fine. Ever!


44 posted on 06/01/2005 5:37:39 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: Fenris6

Bill Clinton

Still Lying


Hilliary...Still Trying.


45 posted on 06/01/2005 5:40:24 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Libloather
***My own view is just based on what I read ***

And just before this answer (based on what he read presumably from the media)- he was contemptuous of the media for what they said about him. He is still a two-faced criminal and Mom & Pop Bush's association is not going to change a sociopath.

46 posted on 06/01/2005 5:40:56 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: Libloather
"While these issues rise to high crimes and misdemeanors, I'll not vote to remove the prsident."

Robert Byrd D WVA, Jan 1999. Hardly an acquital.

47 posted on 06/01/2005 5:41:08 PM PDT by bigsigh
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To: Libloather

The only "gray area" is between Bubba's ears! Dumba$$ still doesn't have a clue...that it ain't all about Monica, nitwit!


48 posted on 06/01/2005 5:45:57 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: badgerlandjim

Looking good Bill. I'm looking forward a day off real soon.


49 posted on 06/01/2005 5:48:17 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: Libloather

Bubba, you had to turn in your bar license for misconduct, which makes you, if I'm not horribly, horribly mistaken, the second President ever to do so. And Ken Starr is the dean at Pepperdine Law. I do believe that's a better comment on who's dangerous to the rule of law than anything you can come up with.


50 posted on 06/01/2005 5:51:15 PM PDT by RichInOC (Bill Clinton is a legend in his own mind.)
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