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The Real Oliver Stoned Story (Steven Plaut On The Side Of Oliver Stone You Wished You Knew Alert) ^ | 06/02/05 | Steven Plaut

Posted on 06/02/2005 2:05:10 AM PDT by goldstategop

Well, the media last weekend reported the latest instance of Oliver Stone being arrested for drug and alcohol charges in Beverly Hills. They found illegal drugs in Ollie’s car and arrested him for DUI. Oliver Stone had earlier been arrested in 1999 on alcohol and drug charges and, as part of a plea bargain, had at that time agreed to enter a rehabilitation program. He had been arrested for drugs before, the first time being when he was only 21.

Now we know what you are all thinking, and that is that the media accounts of this could not possibly be the correct descriptions of events and there must be some grand and awful story-behind-the-story that explains the arrest. After all, Oliver Stoned is best known for his cinematic portrayal of conspiracy plots in his movies and his far-Left politics, including open endorsements of Communism and a sycophant “documentary” celebrating Fidel Castro so one-sided that HBO refused to air it. Stone’s views about Cuba and Castro may be summed up in this one citation: “Street demonstrations in favor of Fidel Castro are not a fake. If they were, those demonstrators should win an Oscar for best acting. I can testify to this because I have seen the joy on their faces when people come up to the president.” Elsewhere he added, “In Cuba, I observed an openness and freedom that I had not found in any other country in the region, the Caribbean or Central America.”

Stone’s pronouncements include issuing a statement after 9/11 blaming the American media companies for the terrorist attacks. At an HBO Films panel on “Making Movies That Matter,” Oliver Stoned states that huge corporations that make mediocre movies are part of what made Osama bin Laden plan the Sept. 11 attack. “They control culture,” he said of the corporations, in comments quoted in the New Yorker. “They control ideas. And I think the revolt of Sept. 11th was about 'F-- you! F-- your order.'”

Stone also said, “This attack was pure chaos, and chaos is energy.” (“The Stars Weigh In,” San Francisco Chronicle, October 16, 2001.) Soon after that, Stone spoke at Brown University. According to the Brown Alumni Magazine (January/February 2002). Stone derided the entire enterprise as well as the movie industry and the history profession. “Don’t believe most of the stuff you see in the movies,” the Oliver told a Brown audience on December 1. Hollywood, said the director of Platoon and JFK, is controlled by “chickens” and “concentration camp guards.” History books are no better, Stone warned. “Most historians are ass-kissers and tenure seekers,” he said. What to believe then? “Believe my stuff,” Stone said.

Drawing comparisons to Vietnam, Stone accused the U.S. government of withholding the truth about the war in Afghanistan: “Bin Laden was completely protected by the oil companies in this country who told [President] Bush not to go after him because it would piss off the Saudis.” Then, Stone claimed, there’s the cover-up involving Ground Zero: limbs getting cut off bodies for jewelry, a man walking off with $132 million.

Stone's paranoia and his contempt for historic facts are most visible in the movie JFK, which turns the historical record on its head. Literally, every single scene in the film about the assassination has been shown to be a fabrication. This trifle did not stop a UCal-Berkeley moonbat from presenting Stone to his students as an “historian.”

Stone, who claims to be half-French, keeps saying he will flee America for France because of Republicans, and got him some cushy subsidies from the French government, something that prompted one wag to suggest he change his name to “Oliver Caillou.” (Caillou is the French word for stone). One can tell he has a strong French streak in his character because he insists he lost his virginity to a prostitute, because he didn't get the opportunity to meet girls at his single-sex school. At least one website is devoted to boycotting anything connected with The Oliver.

Here is a typical Stone take on reality:

The right wing is the same everywhere, in Cuba or Viet Nam. It is like an octopus, snatching everything with its tentacles. They control the internet, radio and TV stations, and newspapers. But above all, they are perfectly organized. Right-wingers master the art of negative publicity and are capable of destroying the image of anyone they consider to be their enemy. They annihilate anything opposed to their interests, utilizing mass emailing, articles, and reports. In the United States, censorship is the order of the day. It is really sad to think that Florida may end up deciding the November elections once again, and that the extreme-right wing, including anti-Castro groups, may manipulate the results for a second time. These people are blinded by patriotic fanaticism and are ready to invade any country, and shoot down planes if necessary. They thought that my first movie about Castro, “Comandante,” was hideous, and they killed it almost before it was even born. They were merely afraid of it.

Now as I was saying above, there has got to be more to the latest Stone arrest than some drunk driving and pharmaceuticals. It must have himself been the victim of a colossal frame-up!

So here is our take on what REALLY happened:

We suspect that some rogue CIA and FBI agents were outraged by Stone’s exposure of CIA plotting in his films, especially of the conspiracy behind the JFK assassination, so they got together with some wealthy Christian fundamentalists and Jewish neoconservatives in control of the Pentagon and set to work. First thing they do is get the oil companies protecting Osama bin Laden to pony up some cash and take this to the Beverly Hills police headquarters while Commissioner Axel Foley hooks them up with some local UCLA chemistry professors. These professors design a special chemical spray to make the innocent Stone appear to be drunk while he is driving, and this is inserted through special vents in the undercarriage of Stone’s Mercedes using a device first designed by the Watergate burglars to make George McGovern appear dazed. Then the Beverly Hills cops plant drugs in the Stone vehicle (The drugs were originally part of a shipment the CIA was planning to sell in East L.A. to gangbangers in order to raise money for the Contras and to bribe neoconservative magazine columnists.) The device was actually inserted into the car when Stone’s attention was being distracted by an agent dressed as a Los Angeles street-walker speaking French and some West Hollywood dudes with tee-shirts that read, “Yum, Alexander was Great!”

No other explanation is logical.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: frontpagemag; hollyweird; maryknoll; oliverstone; outedleftist; stevenplaut; stone; stoned
What's the real deal about Oliver Stone? Conservatives had him framed to make him look drunk. Its a fiendish plot, but one only the Bush Administration could concoct. As fiendish as the conspiracy bunk in Stone's movies and worldview. Plaut shows a side of Stone you wish you knew. Stoned, indeed.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
1 posted on 06/02/2005 2:05:11 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Woo-hoo , a bedtime story . Perfect timing . Good night ;)

2 posted on 06/02/2005 2:21:37 AM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: goldstategop; All
The right wing is the same everywhere, in Cuba or Viet Nam. It is like an octopus, snatching everything with its tentacles...

Dam' right we are...

Proud To Be Part Of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy


3 posted on 06/02/2005 2:29:06 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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I guess it was us Republicans who got him drunk and put drugs in his car too.

4 posted on 06/02/2005 2:45:48 AM PDT by WonkyTonky (God Bless America and all that love her)
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To: Deetes

This stoner's arrest explains his pipe dreams about conspiracies and hallucinations about the evil Republican Party.

5 posted on 06/02/2005 2:51:05 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: goldstategop
I wish Ollie Stoned a wonderful life in France along with his friend Johnny Depp, maybe we could convince him to take along Hanoi Jane, John Kerry and any other Communist worshiping clonies.
6 posted on 06/02/2005 2:56:04 AM PDT by HillarysPantsuit ("Never test the depth of water with both feet")
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To: goldstategop

I just wish Ollie well.

/sarc off

7 posted on 06/02/2005 3:07:33 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (...stumbling across Bill Bennett on the radio is like bumping into Socrates at Starbucks.-K.Parker)
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To: goldstategop

This guy is on to us!

8 posted on 06/02/2005 3:40:28 AM PDT by BallyBill
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To: backhoe

That VRWC thing is cool!

9 posted on 06/02/2005 3:48:55 AM PDT by SIDENET ("Some people are desperate for whatever they're desperate for," - Bubba Fink)
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To: jonrick46

IMHO he is not worth the time it takes to read this post and write a comment.

POT, piece of trash he is.

10 posted on 06/02/2005 4:03:10 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry & Democrats; supported, financed, trained, guided, revered, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: goldstategop

“The Stars Weigh In,” on Sept 11. Just for old times sake, I would love to see this article. What was Hollyweirds reaction to 9/11?

I can guess, but I certainly didnt care at the time.

11 posted on 06/02/2005 4:06:07 AM PDT by LongsforReagan (I hate Howard Dean and everything he stands for.)
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That VRWC thing is cool!

Thanks- I, ahem! "borrowed" it from a member whose SN escapes me.

During the impeachment fiasco, I had a custom-made bumper sticker,

Proud Founding Memeber
Vast Rightwing Conspiracy

12 posted on 06/02/2005 4:10:33 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

I dig the VRWC logo. Where can I get one for like, a lapel pin?

13 posted on 06/02/2005 4:11:23 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: stockpirate

"POT, piece of trash he is."

He is indeed.

14 posted on 06/02/2005 4:17:24 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: elcid1970
I dig the VRWC logo. Where can I get one for like, a lapel pin?

Try doing a screen capture ( right-click on the image and save it to your PC ) and resize if needed using MS Paint... then try printing it out. I *think* you can get adhesive-backed paper for common printers, which might make it easier to attach.

15 posted on 06/02/2005 5:15:13 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: goldstategop
"...Stone's paranoia and his contempt for historic facts are most visible in the movie JFK..."

Well his movie SALVADOR is even worse. It is a drugged out freak fantasy completely detached from reality and history. It shows the "popular uprising" on horseback (yes on horseback!) being turned back by U.S. aid in the form of tanks and planes. In reality of course the FMLN had surface-to-air missiles, foreign mercenaries, and more RPGs and AK-47s than they could find Indians to use.

When the reporter played by James Wood crosses the border from Guatemala into El Salvador, he witnesses a burning corpse and a summary execution of a student-aged male for not having a copy of his cedula (internal document). This execution happened at the customs area! Later he visits a vast body dump that puts Auschwitz to shame. At least Joan Didion in her exceedingly lame and error-ridden book, SALVADOR admitted that there were no bodies at Puerta del Diablo "that day" (when she visited). Actually such "body dumps" had fewer bodies dumped than the Golden Gate Bridge but hey, we're making a movie here...
16 posted on 06/02/2005 5:53:31 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances. Human nature is dependably stagnant.)
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To: HillarysPantsuit
What's interesting about Johnny Depp is that he's actually more honorable than most of the Hollywood Left crowd. Not only did he actually bother to really move to France (he lives just outside of Paris) but has gotten a recent string of really good acting roles: Pirates of the Caribbean, Finding Neverland and now Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Maybe he moved out of the Los Angeles area just to avoid that phoney-baloney crowd there?
17 posted on 06/02/2005 5:56:32 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: goldstategop


18 posted on 06/02/2005 6:59:09 AM PDT by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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To: Monterrosa-24

And lets not forget the nun rape scene. Distasteful Stone at it again.

19 posted on 07/12/2005 11:31:29 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Windsong
Oh yeah, the nun case... With the ex-military perps tried and convicted by the Salvadoran government. But the five Salvadoran journalists and the four leaders of the Pro-Rescate Committee that were murdered by the Left have seen no justice. The names of Mara Clarke, Ita Ford, and Jean Donovan get tossed around all the time but the names of Francisco Peccorini (ex-Jesuit believer in God and critic of the "People's Church and theology of Liberation), Miguel Castellanos, Bobby Chacon, and Gabriel Payes never get attention. Each of these four were true civilians murdered by the FMLN while the Maryknolls were supporting the terrorist cells.
20 posted on 07/13/2005 7:05:31 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (France kicked Germany's teeth out at Verdun among other places.)
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