He better have lots of these ready.
Posted on 06/02/2005 5:56:39 AM PDT by Liz
Maybe Mark Felt is a hero to the left, the way Benedict Arnold was a hero to the English ("Deep Throat Coughs It Up," June 1). But a selfish spiteful snitch is no American hero. They should pull his pension and benefits. He did not serve honorably in his office. He leaked confidential information for purely selfish reasons. He didn't just hurt President Nixon, he hurt the nation as a whole. Patrick Grant Brooklyn
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Poor Felt. He was second in command of the FBI, and he didn't get the promotion to the post he thought he deserved. So he then pulls off a one-man coup. Now, Felt wants to go to his grave some sort of hero? I don't think so. He is a disgrace to any oath given in this land. Robert Garon Philmont
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We now know the motive behind the Deep Throat outing: money. Felt's daughter is a selfish baby-boomer who is looking for her 15 minutes of fame and a quick buck. Her father clearly broke the law, and he abused his office and power to get back at the Nixon administration for passing him over as FBI director. It's nice to know that, within the Felt household, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Jim Ahlfeld Larchmont
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It's no small irony that the man who exposed White House eavesdropping and dirty tricks is a Hoover-era FBI man, with a conviction for illegal wiretapping. Tom Matiska Swoyersville, Penn.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Besides his slavish fanaticism to his own self-serving ambitions, what was Felt's hidden agenda?
It is no small consideration that the post-Nixon nation saw the horrific rise of liberalism---and the juggernaut to tolerate every idiocy the left wing could concoct.
Felt's disturbing motivation was solely to satisfy his vainglorious ambitions, not the good of the country.
No wonder Felt was passed over for promotion. The FBI had his number, alright.
Any other agent would be prosecuted for violating his oath of loyalty to the USA as an FBI agent.
What a TV news spectacle this guy's family put on---crowing about his "heroics."
He remained hidden for so long---now the family is *itching that Woodward and Bernstein made big bucks off "Deep Throat" ---and they are showing up to pocket the proceeds from this disgraceful conduct.
If Hollywood deigns to make a movie of this horror show, we should all flatout refuse to attend.
I suppose the Left is now going to apologize to Linda Tripp for all the bad things they said about her.
After all, She spied on her president as he engaged in illegal activities and exposed those lies to the nation.
Is she a hero too?
BTTT
TThe left don't seem to mind Illegals they come into this country every day
Interesting that a man that worked in the Anti-commie Hoover FBI found no problem in destroying an administration during the cold war. Over a third rate buglary at the Dum Headquarters to find a hooker book. Nixon didn't break in yet he found no problem trying to destroy the gov of the US. Was he actually a commie mole? Things that make you go HUMMMMMM
I would get more exercised about Nixon's purported "crimes" if the press and their sycophants weren't such hypocrites, making a huge deal of the "threats" posed by his conduct and ignoring much worse on the part of his predecessors and one successor. Thus, Donald Segretti serves time in prison and is hounded for writing a phony letter about Muskie in the 1972 election; Dick Tuck pulled all sorts of dirty tricks on the Nixon campaign on JFK's behalf and he's a "harmless, funny prankster (HA, HA!)". The Kennedy brothers at least tolerated the murders of the Diems, a far worse crime than a simple breakin, and not one jot of criticism. Teddy K. engages in obvious criminality with the death of a young woman and he's seen as the "Senate's elder statesman" with weight given to his critical words on Judges, of all things! Linda Tripp is a "snitch, tell on a friend" (her life may have been in danger if she hadn't made those recordings) while Mark Felt is a "hero" for a spite response to being passed over as FBI director, except for his actions that involved spying on violent bolshevik communists. I remember President Reagan sending the four ex-presidents, including Nixon, to Sadat's funeral and that nitwit Jimmy Carter (soundly rejected by the voters the prior year) edging away from him so as not to be photographed with him -- Nixon knew more in his thumb about the Middle East than the peanut knew about anything other than being a sanctimonious phony. You're the one whom Nixon should have edged away from, Mr. Carter!
You're missing a huge point----the point that there were SOP in place to report illegal activity.
Felt vindictively decided to tear down a government and a president for his own self-serving reasons---b/c he had been passed over for a better position.
Felt used secret information that he received as a sworn FBI agent for his own self-serving agenda, when he should have passed the info on to higher-ups.
The Attorney General of the United States at the time of the Watergate break-in was none other than John Mitchell, who personally approved the break-in and paid for it out of a secret slush fund (and later did time.)
Who was Felt supposed to turn to, when the Justice Department was involved in the crime and the cover-up?
The Constitution provides for impeachment when the President commits high crimes and misdemeanors, which suggests to me that the proper place to go was to Congress -- and how better to get their attention than through the newspapers?
Oh, really? There are standard operating procedures for reporting that the President, his Attorney General, and White House staff authorized a burglary, paid for it out of a secret slush fund, and then covered it up?
Please tell me, I am all ears.
Should he have reported it to the Attorney General who personally authorized the break-in?
"DEEP THROAT EXPOSED: A LEAKER IS NO HERO"
Regardless of Felt's actions there is something wrong with calling a 90+ year-old man a "leaker".
Don't foget the Cold war and Khruschevs statement that USSR would destroy us from WITHIN. Maybe he knew more than we thought. Felt destroyed the Nixon Administration from Within.
Let's all get together and urge Ann Coulter to do an expose on this fraud Felt---that's a book that deserves to be written
It's not like it was a really big secret who it was anyway. Bernstain's kid blabbed that it was Felt to friends something like 8 years ago...
You got that right----this craven individual ---Felt--had a secret agenda. In fact, an expose of Felt will make Nixon look like the hero.
It's telling that to Woodstein, a President lying to protect his people was a huge scandal, but a top FBI man leaking information to the press was not, nor did it qualify as big news.
Woodward and Bernstein belong in jail as well, IMHO.
That is funny.................:>)
"Let's all get together and urge Ann Coulter to do an expose on this fraud Felt---that's a book that deserves to be written."
Don't worry. I'm sure that some our side's best investigative writers are all ready knee deep in this mess.
We will see some outstanding op eds, articles and probably books as the BS is ripped away from Watergate.
He better have lots of these ready.
No you be a stand up guy that cares about your country. Quit your job and have a presser. He allowed this country, in fact, he subjected this country to years of trauma and fear. (Remember the COLD WAR and USSR) He could have ended this in one minute. Yet his ultimate goal was to destroy NIXON. Nothing more nothing less.
Thanks, Gramps....we needed to hear that.
Also, it is time to repost Ben Stein's oped to rebuke those rushing in to defend Felt.
Deep Throat and Genocide
The American Spectator ^ | 6-1-05 | Ben Stein
Posted on 06/01/2005 5:55:15 AM PDT by veronica
Re: The "news" that former FBI agent Mark Felt broke the law, broke his code of ethics, broke his oath and was the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward's articles that helped depose Richard Nixon, a few thoughts.
Can anyone even remember now what Nixon did that was so terrible? He ended the war in Vietnam, brought home the POW's, ended the war in the Mideast, opened relations with China, started the first nuclear weapons reduction treaty, saved Eretz Israel's life, started the Environmental Protection Administration. Does anyone remember what he did that was bad?
Oh, now I remember. He lied. He was a politician who lied. How remarkable. He lied to protect his subordinates who were covering up a ridiculous burglary that no one to this date has any clue about its purpose. He lied so he could stay in office and keep his agenda of peace going. That was his crime. He was a peacemaker and he wanted to make a world where there was a generation of peace. And he succeeded.
That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker. He was a lying, conniving, covering up peacemaker. He was not a lying, conniving drug addict like JFK, a lying, conniving war starter like LBJ, a lying conniving seducer like Clinton -- a lying conniving peacemaker. That is Nixon's kharma.
When his enemies brought him down, and they had been laying for him since he proved that Alger Hiss was a traitor, since Alger Hiss was their fair-haired boy, this is what they bought for themselves in the Kharma Supermarket that is life:
1.) The defeat of the South Vietnamese government with decades of death and hardship for the people of Vietnam.
2.) The assumption of power in Cambodia by the bloodiest government of all time, the Khmer Rouge, who killed a third of their own people, often by making children beat their own parents to death. No one doubts RN would never have let this happen.
So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.
Ben Stein is a writer, actor, economist, and lawyer in Beverly Hills and Malibu, and author of "Ben Stein's Diary" each month in The American Spectator.
How about going to the appropriate ranking member of the FBI's oversight committee? Going to a Democratic Senator - say Teddy the Whale?. How about holding an open press conference, with handouts, and then resigning? Mr. Felt did none of those things. And as one of Hoover's hatchetmen, he knew how to do ALL of them. The man's a worm, pure and simple. And Nixon's not Satan. Hell, he wasn't as corrupt as FDR, JFK, LBJ, RFK or B.U.B.B.A.
let's see...he wanted to possess one of the highest law enforcement offices in the united states,
but he broke the laws of this country.
and now, the leftist media paint him a hero?
Let's face it this mutt was one of the highest law enforcement officers in the land, 2nd in command of the FBI. He could have taken his info. to the special prosecutor or to the US Attorney for prosecution. Don't tell me he was afraid of Nixon, half the country wanted Nixon out. Instead he leaked info to Bernstein/Woodward.He was sworn to uphold the law and he betrayed the public trust, he's no better than Nixon. Had Nixon been a democrat the media would be painting an entirely different picture.
What about the fact that the truth got out? Doesn't anyone care about the truth anymore?
Shame Shame.. no better than the democrats you are.
There was and is an independent internal organization within the Justice Department that was established just for that purpose, i.e., reporting misdeeds with the organization in anonymity. There were also channels in Congress.
If Felt was an honorable, principled person why did he go to the Press and still remain in his job. He could have resgigned. Why didn't he volunteer to appear before the Watergate commission (he had already retired by then)? The answers are obvious. Felt was a vindictive, cowardly bureaucrat who wanted to keep his job and subsequent pension and take down a President who selected someone else to head the FBI.
Felt was no mid-level bureaucrat afraid to speak out because of career aspirations or fear of retribution. He was the Deputy Director of the FBI--No. 2. The fact that he was privy to the material pertaining to the investigation of Watergate should have led to him recusing himself. He should have had the decency to resign as did a number of others like Elliot Richardson.
I think Felt felt that the whole world would place laurels at his feet. Quite the opposite. As I posted on another thread, the demystifying of "Deep Throat" is a very good thing. And some vindication for the Nixon family.
Elliott Richardson resigned under pressure. He was ordered by Nixon to fire Archibald Cox, and refused.
I fail to see why resigning your job is appropriate if you want to blow the whistle on your employer, and even more so where, as here, the person you were blowing the whistle on was not even your employer. Felt was an employee of the United States government, not Nixon personally.
I know that after 1978, Inspector Generals were put in most federal agencies, and I don't believe that the FBI had an Inspector General department in 1972. Could be wrong about that, but I believe that there was no Inspector General's office for the FBI before 2001.
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The US attorney, John Mitchell, authorized and paid for the Watergate break-in and was actively involved in the coverup.
Wasn't she pressured to lie about what she knew?
Also, if it was not for the blue dress covered in Prezidue, they would have just kept on lieing!
Nixon, at his absolute worst, pales in comparison to what Clinton (and his ilk) did on an ongoing basis.
I called him a partisan hack in the poll. I wasn't too sure what to call him. People said that the rats defended him when they wouldn't have defended a republican. i don't know. I'll say this. He was a leaker. And Clinton had the leakiest administration imaginable. That is poetic justice. He was a leaker... that should be a category of its own. If he hadn't had the code name of a famous (infamous?) porno movie, he would have been just another leaker among many.
Given all the skullduggery going on at that time I think I can understand his not wanting to go to the grand jury. As much as I dislike John Dean though, I respect him a lot more for actually testifying instead of slipping the shiv in Nixon's back in the dead of night.
Bottom lining it, I suppose Felt is a common criminal -- less than a whistleblower, less than a traitor, just scum. Just low-down scum like Sandy Berglar who should never have had a security clearance, much less been deputy director of the FBI.
Felt kinda reminds me of another "hero" John McCain.
I would never go to a movie about this. It would be made for TV anyway, but I wouldn't watch. I found "all The Presidents Men" a snoozer at the time, I don't even think I finished it. Colson, Liddy, and Nixon were the only characters that weren't boring two-dim "men in gray flannel suits" anyway, and the rest was all depositions and paperwork. Colson has been on the talkies kvetching about having to go to prison but if he hadn't he probably wouldn't have found Christ and he might be on his way to hell now, and he's helped uncounted people since then since his was a sincere jailhouse conversion, so I suspect it was the best thing that ever happened to him.
Tripp didn't spy on the president.
National security was more important than the letter of the law in those days. Would that it were today too since the letter of the law is twisted and ignored for political reasons now same as ever and the moral outrage is selective at best.
That is one of those give thanks in all things items.
"National security"? You're arguing that the Watergate break-in to Democratic National Committee headquarters during a race for the presidency was motivated by the desire to protect national security?
He resigned as a matter of principle rather than do something he felt was wrong. Deputy Attorney General William D. Ruckelshaus also resgned when he was asked to do the same thing. Bork finally did fire Cox and paid for it later. Nixon also abolished the office of the special prosecutor and turned over to the Justice Department the entire responsibility for further investigation and prosecution of suspects and defendants in Watergate and related cases.
I fail to see why resigning your job is appropriate if you want to blow the whistle on your employer, and even more so where, as here, the person you were blowing the whistle on was not even your employer. Felt was an employee of the United States government, not Nixon personally.
Going to the media secretly is not exactly whistleblowing. As I indicated previously, there were other alternatives. Felt had access, by virtue of his position to privileged materials. Felt violated his own conditions of employment by releasing this information to unauthorized people.
Felt worked directly for the Director of the FBI. He had a boss, L. Patrick Gray, and should have gone to him first before the MSM. Gray was a USNA graduate and military officer. He understood concepts such as honor, duty, and country. The USG cannot function if every employee can decide unilaterally that he/she can release privileged/classified information to the MSM. There has to be consequences. Felt paid no price and is now being celebrated as a hero and stands to reap a bundle of money from his perfidy.
I know that after 1978, Inspector Generals were put in most federal agencies, and I don't believe that the FBI had an Inspector General department in 1972. Could be wrong about that, but I believe that there was no Inspector General's office for the FBI before 2001.
I wasn't referring to an IG office, which may or may not have been around in 1972. I heard a former FBI agent on a local radio show say that there was an independent office within the FBI to handle these types of issues and it existed during Felt's time.
Felt's daughter is a selfish baby-boomer who is looking for her 15 minutes of fame and a quick buck. Her father clearly broke the law, and he abused his office and power to get back at the Nixon administration for passing him over as FBI director. It's nice to know that, within the Felt household, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Heheh......nice post......words and pictures sum it all up.
On Fox News this morning, they said Felt discovered wrong-doing in the Nixon administration and was so shocked that he went to Woodward, whom he had "coincidentally" met in the White House while Woodward was in the USN.
I call b**s*** on all this, because:
1. He was shocked by Nixon's acts, yet he could tolerate the crap that Saint JFK, cute little RFK and LBJ did?
2. He "just happened" to strike up a conversation with Woodward, who was waiting for some paperwork at the White House. So when he discovers this alleged wrong-doing, he ferrets out Woodward to spill the story to?
The libs who love to hate J. Edgar Hoover sure seem to see no fault in this man, obviously a crony of Hoover's.
BTW, the libs love to tell the story that Hoover was a homo, don't they? Have you ever known a deviant who didn't surround himself with other tainted individuals?
Felt and his family obviously subscribe to the Leftist Creed........Cashing-in On Victimization:
(Sob) Victimization is a liberal's basic belief by which they blame and find others responsible for their own personal failures, then expect taxpayers, deep-pocketed individuals, or the courts to bail them out.
Try to remember, that for a lib, it feels good to be in the throes of "victimization" and either A) causing victims, B) concocting victims, C) playing victim, D) commiserating over victims, or E) creating another class of victims to bleed over.
Sniffle.
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