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First they came for Howard Stern. Now they're coming for Cable TV.
http://action.downsizedc.org ^ | 5 8 05 | downsizedc.com

Posted on 06/02/2005 1:17:06 PM PDT by freepatriot32

The Danger.

No bill has been introduced yet, but Senator Stevens has promised one, and when it arrives it is likely to come straight out of the Commerce Committee he chairs and move directly to a vote with little time for public comment. The time to act is now.

You can read more about this at...

Center for American Progress: Think Again: The New Content Commissars

Jammed.com: Transcript of Sen. Stevens' remarks on Internet "indecency" laws

DownsizeDC.org commentary

This bill would deny you the right to watch mature programming on cable TV for the sake of parents who are too lazy and irresponsible to bear the burden of doing their jobs as parents. Those parents who object to cable TV programming already have several ways to deal with this problem:

They can buy a reduced set of cable programming (this is the approach used by DownsizeDC.org President Jim Babka who has three children under 10).

They can no have cable at all, but rely on broadcast TV only (which is now heavily censored).

They can restrict cable to only one part of their house and not allow their children to watch TV there.

They can block cable channels they consider inappropriate for their children. But some parents, rather than take any of these responsible steps, want Congress to do their parenting for them, at the expense of everyone else who wants to be able to watch mature programming.

And, we might add, Congress has no constitutional authority for such censorship, something that should concern every American who still cares about constitutional legality.

Many Americans have excused broadcast censorship because the government supposedly owns the broadcast spectrum, but no such excuse exists here. Congress can make no claim to own cable networks, local cable providers, or even the TV sets in your home. They simply don't have the authority.

Why Take Action?

Please help us stop the growth of the nanny state.

Please help us stop the Congressional urge to turn the entire country into Disneyland.

Please help us preserve the benefits of adulthood. Please help us preserve the First Amendment.

Please don't reward the busy-bodies who think they know what's best for you and your family.

Please stop the political habit of using children as an excuse for extinguishing American freedom.

Please don't let Congress reward the whining of irresponsible parents who want others to do their job for them. To send your message to Congress opposing this censorship click here.


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this is small goverment republicans doing this.Just keep that in mind on election day and try not to throw your vote away again like all you people did last time that voted straight republican ticket
1 posted on 06/02/2005 1:17:08 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: Abram; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; Bernard; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; blackeagle; BroncosFan; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
2 posted on 06/02/2005 1:18:08 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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To: freepatriot32
Howard Stern is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn he receives. He is a waste of resources.
3 posted on 06/02/2005 1:18:36 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Howard Stern is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn he receives. He is a waste of resources.

Let it all out, Keith. Let it all out.

4 posted on 06/02/2005 1:20:29 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: freepatriot32

This is soooooo stupid on so many levels.....


5 posted on 06/02/2005 1:20:45 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: freepatriot32

90% of the shows on TV are total garbage, but I agree Ted Stevens needs to get a life, or rather a remote.


6 posted on 06/02/2005 1:21:56 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: cmsgop

Bababooey, ya'll.


7 posted on 06/02/2005 1:22:39 PM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Now matter how much Howard steams...there is absolutely NO justification for FCC regulation of Cable and Satellite TV and radio. None.


8 posted on 06/02/2005 1:22:44 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Keith in Iowa

"Howard Stern is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn he receives. He is a waste of resources."

...and a moron.


9 posted on 06/02/2005 1:23:03 PM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: freepatriot32

I hate Stern and adult programing. In a way I don't mind, but on the other hand I don't like the government deciding what we can and can't watch. They could say that conservative programing is bad as well and block it next.


10 posted on 06/02/2005 1:23:42 PM PDT by Jewelsetter
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Let it all out, Keith. Let it all out.

Not only is Howie the Stern a steaming turd, he's inane. Vulgar. A pestilent boil on the buttocks of humanity. A useless eater. An oxygen waster. Shall I continue? :)

11 posted on 06/02/2005 1:24:55 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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To: freepatriot32
this is small goverment republicans doing this.Just keep that in mind on election day and try not to throw your vote away again like all you people did last time that voted straight republican ticket

It's nonsense like this and the transnational open borders beliefs that keep me from taking the libertarians seriously (even though I defend them in most threads). Our society has reached the point where you essentially have to pull a Timothy Leary, drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals. And yet the sex, drugs and libertarianism crowd wants us to make it even more difficult to raise healthy children.

12 posted on 06/02/2005 1:24:55 PM PDT by Jibaholic (The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: freepatriot32

The junk on cable is EXACTLY why there is no cable in my home. Doesn't matter if I bring myself near to stroke to prevent my kiddo from seeing vulgar commercials, they come on anyway. Thankfully mine knows better than to even try to watch it, but all it takes is a milisecond for the image to register and damage done. Ever woke up in the middle of the night and turned on Spike tv? Nothing but infomercials for the "girls gone wild" videos... that's just one example. It's sickening.

The only way to be a good parent is to either shell out the bucks for digital cable and lock out all the channels, or just not have cable at all.

I agree with the motion to clean it up or for cable companies to offer packages without the mini-porn commercials and programming.

Until then, I'll rely on my trusty rabbit ears.


13 posted on 06/02/2005 1:25:50 PM PDT by redlocks322
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To: Keith in Iowa

but...he wouldn't have his show if those bimbos wouldn't take their clothes off either would he?


14 posted on 06/02/2005 1:26:06 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: Keith in Iowa

Howard Stern is entertaining on a couple different levels. He was fairly pro-Bush until this FCC nonsense picked up steam. That's what sent him off the leftist cliff.

Forget this "public airwaves" crap.


15 posted on 06/02/2005 1:26:35 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: freepatriot32

Sorry, I'm ok with this.


16 posted on 06/02/2005 1:27:17 PM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
>>>.there is absolutely NO justification for FCC regulation of Cable and Satellite TV and radio. None.

Oh yes there is...enforcement of technical standards and requirements that Satellite & Cable don't interfere with other users of the radio spectrum. But they (the FCC) should have zero say as to programming content on cable or satellite.
17 posted on 06/02/2005 1:27:45 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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To: redlocks322
I agree with the motion to clean it up or for cable companies to offer packages without the mini-porn commercials and programming.

Should government really be telling cable providers how to offer their channels line-ups?

18 posted on 06/02/2005 1:27:57 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: Callahan

Stern cracks me up. I don't agree with him on everything, but his show is damned funny. Once he is on satellite radio, he can say all he wants.


19 posted on 06/02/2005 1:28:01 PM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: GOPyouth

Sal The Stockbroker is a Stalker!


20 posted on 06/02/2005 1:28:46 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Jibaholic
Our society has reached the point where you essentially have to pull a Timothy Leary, drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals. And yet the sex, drugs and libertarianism crowd wants us to make it even more difficult to raise healthy children.

Ditto.....

There used to be a time when what is allowed on TV today would have been unacceptable in the past.

21 posted on 06/02/2005 1:29:30 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Jewelsetter
They could say that conservative programing is bad as well and block it next.

Exactly.

Look for a President Hildabeast to do exactly that, with an Executive Order.

22 posted on 06/02/2005 1:29:32 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

You are correct since I didn't specify...but I was referring to content.


23 posted on 06/02/2005 1:29:34 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: GOPyouth
I agree as well as a Stern Listener since "81
24 posted on 06/02/2005 1:30:01 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: freepatriot32
This bill would deny you the right to watch mature programming on cable TV for the sake of parents who are too lazy and irresponsible to bear the burden of doing their jobs as parents.

And the courts will most likely strike any new censorship laws down as they have in the past.

You'd think these politicians can't find more important issues to confront that people are actually concerned about. I guess the pressing problems of steroids in baseball is easier to deal with.

25 posted on 06/02/2005 1:30:25 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: freepatriot32

yawn


26 posted on 06/02/2005 1:30:25 PM PDT by Skooz (If everyone knew everything about everyone, no one would have anything to do with anyone)
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To: Modernman

If cable companies don't want to offer affordable basic cable programming without all the smut, then ABSOLUTELY. Why does it have to be the "norm" for the smut rather than the other way around?


27 posted on 06/02/2005 1:32:12 PM PDT by redlocks322
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To: Keith in Iowa
Shall I continue? :)

Sure, it's good for the soul. PURGE.

28 posted on 06/02/2005 1:32:43 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: freepatriot32
Please stop the political habit of using children as an excuse for extinguishing American freedom.

How true that is.

I always have to laugh at people like Bill O'Reilly (whom many on the left consider to be a "conservative"), who constantly invoke the "for the children" canard to justify all manner of government heavy-handedness.

Just like that other Bill who all us Freepers love to hate.

30 posted on 06/02/2005 1:33:58 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: freepatriot32

Ted Stevens is such a blowhard dinasaur. Government has no business telling the producers of my beloved "The Shield" what Vic is permitted to speak.


31 posted on 06/02/2005 1:35:24 PM PDT by montag813
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To: cmsgop
Sal The Stockbroker is a Stalker!

That guy is sick . . . peep-show booths, spitting on others, being completely homo for KISS, etc.

32 posted on 06/02/2005 1:35:26 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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Howard who?


33 posted on 06/02/2005 1:35:31 PM PDT by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
And the courts will most likely strike any new censorship laws down as they have in the past.

Don't be so sure. They let McCain/Feingold stand, which is a clear violation of the 1st Amendment.

34 posted on 06/02/2005 1:35:43 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
>>> Sure, it's good for the soul. PURGE.

I think I've got it covered. Besides, I've already wasted too much time talking about Howie - I've used up my quota of thought power I can waste on him for the next few millennia...
35 posted on 06/02/2005 1:36:03 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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To: freepatriot32

Seems some people have yet to discover the wonders of the remote control.


36 posted on 06/02/2005 1:36:07 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP ("The Republican Party is the France of politics" - Laz)
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To: freepatriot32

Stern picked his fight, the idiot.


37 posted on 06/02/2005 1:36:19 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: GOPyouth

How long before "Rocco's Animal Trainer 17" takes the place of Sesame Street?


38 posted on 06/02/2005 1:36:52 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

LOL! Today was funny, and now he is going after Stern's Cousin LOL!


39 posted on 06/02/2005 1:36:55 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: freepatriot32
It is tragic in how many people on this board are against the 1st Amendment during with entertainment because curtain shows do not fit their tastes.

I personally cannot stand toilet humor, but these "indecency" laws would be used to censor and destroy any show on TV that has any intelligence in them, for examples, sci-fi shows like Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, Battlestar G. and the anime that comes on Cartoon Network's adult swim.

So if you want more brain-dead reality TV television, just go ahead and support these "indecency" laws.

40 posted on 06/02/2005 1:37:28 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: redlocks322
If cable companies don't want to offer affordable basic cable programming without all the smut, then ABSOLUTELY.

Why? This is a private company providing private services to its customers. If the customers don't like those services, they can complain to the company and/or discontinue the service. If enough cable customers are really interested in such an arrangement, the companies will accomodate them.

What you are proposing would be akin to the government telling Wal-Mart what sizes of light bulbs it needs to keep in stock.

Nobody is forced to buy cable.

41 posted on 06/02/2005 1:37:30 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made. " -Bismarck)
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To: Jibaholic
Our society has reached the point where you essentially have to pull a Timothy Leary, drop out, and live in a bubble in order to raise children with a decent morals. And yet the sex, drugs and libertarianism crowd wants us to make it even more difficult to raise healthy children.

Someone is forcing you to subscribe to cable television?

42 posted on 06/02/2005 1:37:30 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: freepatriot32

1st Amendment during with = 1st Amendment dealing with


43 posted on 06/02/2005 1:37:54 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Modernman
Should government really be telling cable providers how to offer their channels line-ups?

Of course! That's "conservatism". </sarcasm>

44 posted on 06/02/2005 1:38:50 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Keith in Iowa
Howard Stern is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn he receives. He is a waste of resources.

Robert Byrd is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn he receives. He is a waste of resources.

Ted Kennedy is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn he receives. He is a waste of resources.

Trent Lott is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn he receives. He is a waste of resources.

John McCain is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn he receives. He is a waste of resources.

The democRat Party is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn it receives. It is a waste of resources.

The Republican Party is a steaming turd and deserves every bit of scorn it receives. It is a waste of resources.


The difference being, I can ignore Howard Stern and he doesn't harm my interests, steal my money or my liberties.

45 posted on 06/02/2005 1:39:16 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

46 posted on 06/02/2005 1:39:22 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Jewelsetter

No, that will never happen. Republicans are in charge and we all know Republicans can do no wrong.


47 posted on 06/02/2005 1:39:57 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Jewelsetter
".... but on the other hand I don't like the government deciding what we can and can't watch"

I agree, but....

How dismal and debased does the broadcasting industry have to get before something is done? Or is there no bottom?

Pornography is all over television, it's virtually inescapable. It's also true that the more people watch it the more desensitized they become requiring ever lower standards to generate the necessary "pay-off".

Is public decency now a non-sequitor?

Is access to nonstop fart jokes an inalienable right?

In my opinion the "guardians" of public airwaves in this country have failed miserably. The "arts" community is an open sewer. If the're appealing to me for sympathy and protection, well, I'm sorry but I will not defend pornography.

48 posted on 06/02/2005 1:40:42 PM PDT by Pietro
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What is really needed is a la carte programming on cable/satellite.

That way, I only have to pay for what I want to watch in my home, and nothing else.

49 posted on 06/02/2005 1:41:04 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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To: cmsgop
I agree as well as a Stern Listener since "81

I was (past tense emphasized) a dedicated Stern fan from 1986 (when he was first syndicated in Philly) until the Janet Jackson incident when he went over to the Dark Side and became a lefty. Even after he started Bush-bashing after the FCC blow-up, I still tuned in from time to time, but when he started praising Michael Moore, that was the last straw. I have not listened since.

50 posted on 06/02/2005 1:41:24 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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