Skip to comments.What Everybody's Missing About Deep Throat (He Would Have Buried Watergate)
Posted on 06/02/2005 8:21:22 PM PDT by John Robertson
While many MSM'ers (sorry, most) are lionizing this guy as "a hero," someone who "did what he had to do," something big is being missed.
Our side has pointed out that he authorized/engineered illegal breakins himself...
And that he turned on the Whitehouse because he didn't get the top FBI job. Now think about that....
Felt became a snitch because he didn't get something he wanted! He was an opportunist, plain and simple (and it runs in the family, apparently, as they shamelessly say they urged the old man to do it so they could all get some money). Yeah, a real hero.
But here's what I haven't seen....
If they had made him the head of the FBI, he WOULD NOT have turned on the Whitehouse.
In fact, as head of the FBI....
HE WOULD HAVE HELPED THEM BURY WATERGATE!
He had information, which had value, and he sold it (his price was vengeance, and pique, and if those Watergate-era photos are sending any messages across the decades, smugness).
Just because Nixon and his people didn't know the terms (make me FBI head and I won't leak like a wooden boat that sat out back in the yard for fourteen years), doesn't mean a deal wasn't there for their making. If Nixon had appointed him, he would have kept his mouth shut, so the Nixon government wouldn't unravel, and cost him the job he so openly coveted.
And does anyone really doubt that such an amoral opportunist wouldn't have proactively gotten involved in defending his position within the regime that was threatened? And taken action to protect himself within that regime?
It's interesting to contrast and compare attitudes towards Mark Felt and Linda Tripp.
Boy, now THERE'S an interesting alternate universe...
We're not even sure he wasn't blackmailing the Deep-Throat Juniors he had to be getting info from!
Yes, Tripp compared to Felt....
Tripp: Victimized, threatened, demeaned, diminished, finances challenged and lost. Yet still retained dignity.
Felt: Victimizer, nefarious plotter, revenge-motivated op, challenged finances about to be boosted. Never had any real dignity to start with.
You pick the hero.
Even moreso, the media portrayal of Mark Felt and Gary Aldrich.
But the for a decision-flip--Yeah, put Felt in that job--so much of history would have been so very different.
In fact...do you know those novels where Hitler won the war--what the world would be like?
Think of a novel where Watergate was a blip, then went away.
Nixon finishes his term.
Finishes much of his agenda.
Ford, probably two terms, in spite of himself.
We would never have had to up with Jimmah Cahtah.
And probably no Clinton (southern governor, etc.).
Only two dem presidents in 40 years...Carter and Toon.
And if Nixon had given Felt the job, we wouldn't have had to put up with them.
The lingering "triumph" of the Left bringing down Nixon never would have saturated the culture.
And liberalism would be far, far paler than it is today.
All in all, how it all turned out seems relatively well.
"We're not even sure he wasn't blackmailing the Deep-Throat Juniors he had to be getting info from!"
Exactly. Or somesuch nefarious behavior. He has already demonstrated that he would do anything--follow orders loyally...betray you (under cover of darkness)...then one day cash in....
But, you know, would there have been a Ronald Reagan?
Would we have had the Shining City on the Hill?
Hey Joan Felt and greedy son.....you have exposed your father and grandfather to an ugly ruin yourselves.....kind of takes the hero worship right out.
What's the Erlichman/Felt connection?
I'll gladly suffer through Carter in order to have been blessed with Ronald Reagan as my President
Aldrich is the model for a "hero" declaring chicanery of a high-level boss.
Felt, a "hero"?
Heroes step up and say, Hey, this is going on! They don't skulk around, hiding, fearful and vengeful at the same time. That's not a hero.
And we will never know if ALL the stuff Felt gave the reporters was even true, because he's a dithering jerk, and nearly all of the key players are dead.
See my #8.
And you know what the real kicker is? When he was on trial, just guess who Felt asked to come to court and testify on his behalf that sometimes things like black bag jobs have to be done?
"But, you know, would there have been a Ronald Reagan? Would we have had the Shining City on the Hill?"
Well, you have something here.
But then again: Reagan was a once in a century leader... perhaps a once in a country's lifetime leader. And he think he would have risen to the top anyway.
Hitting nails directly on heads dittoes.
Said it above and believe it: Reagan would have risen to the top no matter what. If we get him and avoid Carter, then that's a helluva win.
Richard M. Nixon.
And he did.
And the jury REJECTED Nixon and Felt's defense.
Irony never reeked so bad.
Mol had some interesting info on Bernsteins father that sheds some light on the son's background.
True, but it's history now
Can you even believe the brass ones that took?
"Hey, Dick, you don't know it yet, but I have screwed you royally, but I am not ethical enough to NOT ask you to come and try to save my sorry butt."
I didn't know that. Felt really is a dirtbag
Good question. Of course, RR ran against him in '68 (came out ahead of Rockefeller) and there was no love lost between the two Californians. But RR would have had a far better shot at the top spot in '76 (remember someone suggesting he serve as a co-prez with Ford????)--no Watergate raining on Republicans.
This whole thing makes me want to weep for Nixon and his family. Ok, it's late.......but this is starting to get to me.
Yeah, it's history.
But speculating on "What might have been" is an irresistible game to many folks, myself included. This was a fairly insignificant act (not letting him be head of FBI) that reverberated around the world, and especially in this country...and continues to reverberate.
$5,000!!!!!, and now they are worth millions. The 88 year old biographer was on Hard Ball earlier talking about it
Yeah, yeah, I failed to cite that.
He took Nixon down...then prevailed upon him to help get his ass out of the dock.
And Nixon, who after all knew what loyalty was (loyalty to his loyalists cost him his presidency), came running.
Felt is an absolute amoral snake.
Don't believe it. Gratitude's one thing, acting against his boss quite another. The only way I can see it is if JE was blackmailed (not necessarily for dough).
Very true, and quite entertaining as well :-)
Stay tuned for John Dean's column tomorrow; he's gone through and highlighted all the mistakes Felt made with the Washington Post, even after Bradlee has said he never steered them wrong.
They knew the big disclosure was in the pipeline, and so they got every aspect of their cash-in in place before it hit.
Felt's legacy: At least two generations that are every bit as amoral, self-serving, self-congratulatory and opportunistic as I.
"Felt is an absolute amoral snake."
And his family is going to make money off his treachery and traitorism (is that a word?) Makes me ill.
Speaking of research .. I did some last night
I didn't know this about Carl Bernstein's father
Horowitz discloses how active communists such as Al Bernstein and others went on to enjoy lucrative careers. Indeed Carl Bernstein himself ended up at the Washington Post, poised to topple President Richard Nixon, when he confessed to editor Ben Bradley the involvement of his parents in the Communist Party. Bradley, of course, did not remove him
I will never believe a single word John Dean ever utters. That scumbag is the lowest form of life on the planet
To begin with, we'd still have the Panama Canal and Khomeini would have never carried out his coup in Iran. When a weak man is in the Oval Office, evil flourishes worldwide.
Alas, re Erlichman...dead men can't defend themselves.
We KNOW Felt is a lying, opportunistic, amoral reptile. My money is with yours: He would not have turned on Nixon.
He's been pretty good on this one with Keith Olbermann, much as I hate to admit it.
I'm with you--but it always has gotten to me.
Yes. Thanks! And like I said yesterday; it needs it's own thread!! (hint, hint)
"I will never believe a single word John Dean ever utters. That scumbag is the lowest form of life on the planet."
Agree with the first...asking you to reconsider the second. I think Mark Felt is right down there with him.
Very interesting, but not surprising. So many on the left have risen to where they are becuase of their love of Communism.