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Euro dives on Italian call to quit currency
Reuters -UK ^ | Friday June 3rd, 2005 | Naomi Tajitsu

Posted on 06/03/2005 12:41:25 AM PDT by M. Espinola

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To: Ff--150
Every person I have ever met who traded with a Bible in his hand went broke.

And I am a FERVENT Christian.
Please be careful. I would not recommend speculative trading in currencies to almost anyone. There is a price to pay in learning any activity, and the price paid in dealing in highly leveraged speculation is usually more than the average guy can afford.

Just a note from someone with about 25 years experience in markets. Take it for what it is worth.
41 posted on 06/03/2005 5:01:02 AM PDT by chronic_loser
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To: G-Man 1

Lets see, how much did Buffett lose this week, 1 billion, 2 billion, 5 billion. Sure glad he isn't advising Kalifornia anymore.


42 posted on 06/03/2005 5:05:31 AM PDT by appeal2
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To: M. Espinola

Whazzamatter with shifting to the dollar?


43 posted on 06/03/2005 5:09:28 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: chronic_loser
"Just a note from someone with about 25 years experience in markets. Take it for what it is worth."

No--I'll take your moniker "for what it is worth:"chronic loser :(

As you are a FERVENT Christian--you know God is a winner--therefore you KNOW God died to make you a winner like Him, right!

44 posted on 06/03/2005 5:35:10 AM PDT by Ff--150 (Now Unto Him That Is Able To Do Exceeding)
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To: Ff--150

It's good to keep in mind, though, exactly what God's definitions of "winner" and "loser" are...


45 posted on 06/03/2005 5:44:17 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Ff--150

God didn't die to help you make money. God died so you didn't get what you deserved. An astute understanding of money is held by many who reject Christ and mishandling of wealth has happened to many men who will reside in Heaven.
The "profess it and possess it" mentality rejects the sovereign nature of God. Look at Job. Even though he was a man of wealth and faith, he lost it all. It wasn't because of a lack of faith or understanding, it was because God is not controlled by our will but by his will alone.

You had a good run. Praise God for it. But don't believe that your faith mandated that it happened. God does not have to do what you want. He isn't a puppet to be controlled if you have enough faith.


46 posted on 06/03/2005 5:56:47 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Eepsy

"It's good to keep in mind, though, exactly what God's definitions of "winner" and "loser" are..."

Remember Jesus pretty much hung out with the poor and social misfits. His only concern was treasure in Heaven. BTW, anyone found a market for trading "treasures in Heaven"? How about futures? Just Kidding!!!

However, when trading currencies, its probably a good idea to pray. It's one thing to take the shirt off your back and give it to the poor - it's another thing to just lose it.


47 posted on 06/03/2005 6:06:29 AM PDT by lnbchip
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To: lnbchip
"However, when trading currencies, its probably a good idea to pray."

I second that.

48 posted on 06/03/2005 6:10:50 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: lnbchip

I think it's good to pray for everything. Heck, I pray for parking spaces, so I'm no one to talk. The problem with praying for riches is the trap of thinking it's because of your sin when the riches don't come (or because of your righteousness when they do.

Ask God for all things, but always asking that His will, and not yours, be done. And (this is harder) be as happy and trusting in His will when you differ as when you agree.


49 posted on 06/03/2005 6:16:17 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
Very good overview.

From the [current] level of almost 123ish, reviewing the first chart in this thread, the current political dilemma for the Euro currency is the worst it's ever been, since it first began trading as a Euro/Dollar contract in September of 1998.

You are correct there will be resistance at key levels. Being that this is a very different situation then any of the previous rises and falls of the Euro, the typical levels of resistance may not fully be applicable. For instance if another major E.U. related national player takes a step harmful to the E.U. the Euro should drop possible passing traditional lines of market resistance.

As a result of the Euro already being in a solid downward mode since the March, all the latest adverse developments are doing is reconfirming the overall direction of the currency market. I do agree & also recall there were levels back in 2003 which were tough for the Euro to break through and maintain its bullishness.

It is going to a wild ride, not only for the Euro but numerous national currencies, which are, and will, be effected in both directions, over the coming months.

50 posted on 06/03/2005 6:40:52 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: ReadyNow
> Italy without the Lira is like a day without sunshine...

...et senza vino :)

51 posted on 06/03/2005 6:47:35 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: Ff--150
"Just a note from someone with about 25 years experience in markets. Take it for what it is worth."

"Just a note from someone with about 25 years experience in markets. Take it for what it is worth."
No--I'll take your moniker "for what it is worth:"chronic loser :(
As you are a FERVENT Christian--you know God is a winner--therefore you KNOW God died to make you a winner like Him, right!


I wish you profitable trades, prosperity,, and true riches... and the far more valuable ability to distinguish between the three. Best of everything to you.
52 posted on 06/03/2005 6:49:30 AM PDT by chronic_loser
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To: snowsislander
The Guardian has an interesting page on defunct European currencies here. I'll bet people hung on to a few million lira (and drachma, and markka, jne.)
53 posted on 06/03/2005 6:58:28 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: Gamecock

Well, there are states and regions of the U.S. that span an economic divide as large as that between Germany and Portugal.


54 posted on 06/03/2005 6:59:38 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: jimbo123
The Dutch want their guilder back, too.

It was the prettiest currency ever.

55 posted on 06/03/2005 7:07:21 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: jimbo123
Here's a cool site with pics of the guilder.
56 posted on 06/03/2005 7:12:55 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: M. Espinola

I've got a few thousand pesetas in loose change, maybe they'll be worth something again.


57 posted on 06/03/2005 7:14:30 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Send a message, defeat (Pat) Dewine this June 14, www.gobrinkman.com)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Hold on to those pesetas, you never know. It's a safe bet in the future, and maybe the not so distance future, the Italian government will be issuing a revalued peseta. All old pesetas should be recalled.
58 posted on 06/03/2005 7:27:35 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: cloud8; Irish_Thatcherite

>The Guardian has an interesting page on defunct European currencies here. I'll bet people hung on to a few million lira (and drachma, and markka, jne.)

I had read that the Irish withheld somewhere around 650 million of their punts after the government made the boneheaded mistake to switch to the Euro. The Irish government declared them to be worthless after the exchange grace period. At least that was my father's excuse for doing the same.

I'll bet those Irish who ratholed their old currency will be glad they did when the Euro goes down in a flaming death. Be that as it may, the Irish here in USofA are known for stockpiling cash, wary of banks. My father and I found $93,000 cash in an estate of never-married Irish siblings, accumulated from the 1920's until the last one died in 1989. They were probably affraid they'd run out of beer money, or something.


59 posted on 06/03/2005 7:27:39 AM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: M. Espinola
Hold on to those pesetas, you never know. It's a safe bet in the future, and maybe the not so distance future, the Italian government will be issuing a revalued peseta. All old pesetas should be recalled.

Italy = lira
Spain = peseta

And a couple thousand pesetas = maybe 20 dollars.

60 posted on 06/03/2005 7:37:19 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Send a message, defeat (Pat) Dewine this June 14, www.gobrinkman.com)
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