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To: M. Espinola; AntiGuv

Let me softly toss out something to you both for a reaction. Hate, or love, Chirac, everyone admits he is a smooth, shrewd pol, and a survivor. He had the chocie of either a national plebiscite for the EU document, or having the legislature ratify it..which would have been automatic. I'v read much of the commentary on the French process, and I haven't yet seen any comments upon perhaps Chirac really wanted it to fail?..


17 posted on 06/03/2005 4:55:38 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

No, I don't think so, because everyone knew the constitution would fail anyhow - in Britain. The objective was more like to marginalize Britain and put France in the driver seat of a renegotiated pact. That is all ruined now (snicker).


20 posted on 06/03/2005 5:01:06 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: ken5050
It's an interesting point which you bring up. I believe Mr. Chirac was totally dedicated to the concept of the single European state.

The reason I say this look at how Chirac turfed out Jean-Pierre Raffarin and has appointed Dominique de Villepin as Prime Minister. De Villepin is a very pro-E.U., a never elected to any office, technocrat.

This little piece from Wednesday's Turkish newspaper,'Zaman' on de Villepin:

"Coming from a blue blood family the new French Prime Minister was born in Morocco and raised in Caracas. He completed his education at a school for the state elite. As a loyal politician to Chirac, de Villepin is known as someone who entertains the notion of Turkey's accession to the Union."

I have seen Dominique de Villepin interviewed. The last time was on the PBS Charlie Rose Show during this last winter. He's a well spoken brilliant French politician, but not someone who has the best interests of America, as was clearly demonstrated over Saddam affair.

Non oui vote! Now what?

25 posted on 06/03/2005 5:25:06 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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