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'This Is Not Right'
KOMO 1000 News (Radio) ^ | June 1, 2005 | Kevin Reece

Posted on 06/03/2005 4:33:39 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill

'This Is Not Right'

June 1, 2005
 
By Kevin Reece



DES MOINES - Cecilia Beaman is a 57-year-old grandmother, a principal at Pacific Middle School in Des Moines, and as of Sunday is also a suspected terrorist.

"This is not right," she told us. It's not right!"

This past weekend she and several other chaperones took 37 middle school students to a Heritage Festival band competition in California. The trip included two days at Disneyland.

During the stay she made sandwiches for the kids and was careful to pack the knives she used to prepare those sandwiches in her checked luggage. She says she even alerted security screeners that the knives were in her checked bags and they told her that was OK.

But Beaman says she couldn't find a third knife. It was a 5 1/2 inch bread knife with a rounded tip and a serrated edge. She thought she might have lost or misplaced it during the trip.

On the trip home, screeners with the Transportation Security Administration at Los Angeles International Airport found it deep in the outside pocket of a carry-on cooler. Beaman apologized and told them it was a mistake.

"You've committed a felony," Beaman says a security screener announced. "And you're considered a terrorist."

Beaman says she was told her name would go on a terrorist watch-list and that she would have to pay a $500 fine.

"I'm a 57-year-old woman who is taking care of 37 kids," she told them. "I'm not gonna commit a terrorist act." Beaman says they took information from her Washington drivers license and confiscated and photographed the knife according to standard operating procedure.

She says screeners refused to give her paperwork or documentation of her violation, documentation of the pending fine, or a copy of the photograph of the knife.

"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ... you don't have any'."

KOMO News did reach a spokesperson with the Transportation Security Administration for comment. They said they did not have record of Beaman's confrontation but did admit that TSA screeners are, by design, becoming more strict.

Despite continued warnings to passengers, TSA screeners say travelers continue to bring banned items in their carry-on luggage. Knives, guns, and other weapons are found and confiscated daily.

Fines issued for knives and other sharp objects range from $250 to $1,500. Fines issued for firearms discovered in carry-on luggage range from $1,500 to $7,500.

The TSA web site also indicates firearms violations will be referred for potential criminal prosecution. The same site does not propose the same criminal referral for knives like the one Cecilia Beaman was carrying.

"This is not the way my country should be treating me," she said. My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."

The TSA reminds travelers that is has the authority to impose civil penalties up to $10,000 per violation.

"TSA needs the help of the traveling public in reducing the number of prohibited items brought to airport screening checkpoints," reads the Sanction Guidelines section of the TSA web site. "TSA recognizes that most passengers who carry prohibited items do so without any ill intent. TSA does not impose fines on the vast number of passengers who inadvertently carry prohibited items. Dealing with any prohibited item, however, adds time to the screening process both for the traveler who brought the item and for other travelers as well."

You can find a complete list of banned items, range of fines levied for violations, and information on how to plead your case with the TSA at www.tsa.gov.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecutity; bang; govwatch; idiocy; tsa
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More TSA tyranny.
1 posted on 06/03/2005 4:33:39 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: ActionNewsBill

She looks like a terrorist to me!!!


2 posted on 06/03/2005 4:35:28 AM PDT by Route101
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To: ActionNewsBill
Beaman apologized and told them it was a mistake.

I'm sure Achmed will try that one too.

3 posted on 06/03/2005 4:35:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: ActionNewsBill
She says screeners refused to give her paperwork or documentation of her violation, documentation of the pending fine, or a copy of the photograph of the knife.

"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ... you don't have any'."

Unbelieveable.

4 posted on 06/03/2005 4:37:43 AM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (A round of ruby red Sharpies for everyone, barkeep.)
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To: ActionNewsBill
Cecilia Beaman is a 57-year-old grandmother, a principal at Pacific Middle School in Des Moines, and as of Sunday is also a suspected terrorist.

So guys beheading people, killing children and blowing up buildings are insurgents, but a 57 year old white grandmother is a terrorist?  Un-freaking-believable!

5 posted on 06/03/2005 4:38:01 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: ActionNewsBill

And meanwhile, the TSA won't look at people whose physical appearance, social background, religious beliefs and points of origin match those of actual terrorists.


6 posted on 06/03/2005 4:38:02 AM PDT by Casekirchen (If allah is just another name for the Judeo-Christian God, why do the islamics pray to a rock?)
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To: AppyPappy
I'm sure Achmed will try that one too.

Achmed is not going to try and take over a plane with a butter knife, while towing around 37 kids.

7 posted on 06/03/2005 4:38:08 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ActionNewsBill
My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I would hate to think how they're treating other people.

Don't worry, they get a pass.

8 posted on 06/03/2005 4:39:08 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ActionNewsBill

Brain-dead zero-tolerance policies suck no matter where they're applied.


9 posted on 06/03/2005 4:40:29 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: ActionNewsBill
"You've committed a felony," Beaman says a security screener announced. "And you're considered a terrorist."
[snip]
And I said what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ... you don't have any'."

I'm not a fan of TSA, they strike me as bullies. Now, having said that, I will also say that this woman's account seems overly dramatic and over-the-top. She's a member of a teachers' union, I imagine. I'm not eager to side with her either. Democrats lie.

10 posted on 06/03/2005 4:41:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Casekirchen; ActionNewsBill
And meanwhile, the TSA won't look at people whose physical appearance, social background, religious beliefs and points of origin match those of actual terrorists.

So it goes. Whatever's coming 'round the bend, We The People deserve it.

11 posted on 06/03/2005 4:42:05 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: ActionNewsBill

I can understand how a mistake like this can happen but a little prior planning would have prevented it. Before I travel I empty my bags all the way and inspect them for anything that I might not know is in them and then pack them. But this general over all zero tolerance policy will get some innocent people just like it does in our schools.


12 posted on 06/03/2005 4:42:47 AM PDT by Xenophobic Alien (OK gang, you know the rules, no humping, no licking, no sniffing hineys.)
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To: ActionNewsBill; All
This is an excellent thread and shows why it will be more than easy for us to be attacked again. While stoooopid Govt. workers waste unbelievable time on individuals that couldn't fit the terrorist profile if they wanted the real bad guys get a pass. Typical govt. inspired workers. Dumb some,most and all of the time.
13 posted on 06/03/2005 4:42:48 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: ActionNewsBill

At least not unless Achmed's wired all 37 kids with bombs. :-P


14 posted on 06/03/2005 4:43:01 AM PDT by ahayes
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To: ClearCase_guy
I'm not eager to side with her either. Democrats lie.

You're jumping to conclusions here by assuming she's a Dem and assuming she's lying.

After seeing some of the other accounts of the TSA in action, I'm inclined to believe her story.

15 posted on 06/03/2005 4:44:03 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ActionNewsBill

apparently the only consistent policy within the TSA is they've forgotten whom they work for.....as have, apparently, their congressional masters.


16 posted on 06/03/2005 4:45:10 AM PDT by mo
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To: ahayes
At least not unless Achmed's wired all 37 kids with bombs. :-P

Well, in that case, TSA would be doing their jobs instead of harassing American citizens who happen to have a harmless butter knife in their possession.

17 posted on 06/03/2005 4:45:36 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ClearCase_guy

your right...if she's in a teachers union she should be strip searched for stupidity.....


18 posted on 06/03/2005 4:46:36 AM PDT by Route101
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To: Route101
your right...if she's in a teachers union she should be strip searched for stupidity.....

Good idea...let's just harass the folks who are Democrats....only God-fearing Republicans deserve rights.

19 posted on 06/03/2005 4:48:33 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ActionNewsBill
Well, I'm glad they nabbed this potential terrorist.
This proves that the TSA screeners are stopping people in a very politically correct manner,
and that is, in the end, far more important than actually stopping terrorists, isn't?

/dripping sarcasm
20 posted on 06/03/2005 4:49:18 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: ActionNewsBill
More TSA tyranny.

Tyranny. O-tay 'Panky!

21 posted on 06/03/2005 4:51:57 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: ActionNewsBill
So now we have a 57 yr. old CITIZEN grandmother on our 'terrorist' watch list ??... LOL

Also this CITIZEN gets a felony record, plus a fine ??? Wonder if this will also affect her job ??

"This is not the way my country should be treating me," she said. My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I would hate to think how they're treating other people.

Oh, *they're* treating *other people* quite well, esp. if they are *only* foreigners just sneaking across our borders. These people simply *promise* to come to court, & they are set free.

22 posted on 06/03/2005 4:52:05 AM PDT by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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To: ActionNewsBill

I feel *so* much safer now.


23 posted on 06/03/2005 4:52:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: ActionNewsBill
Is it just me, or does anyone else see the irony?

We have here a middle-school principal complaining about a zero-tolerance policy.

What are the odds that if one of her older students brought something deemed to be a prohibited item, he'd be suspended, and she'd likely be the first to defend their zero-tolerance policy?

24 posted on 06/03/2005 4:53:14 AM PDT by Egon (Your tagline offends me.)
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To: ActionNewsBill

Well, maybe at least she'll think twice the next time she suspends some 1st grader for drawing a picture of a knife or gun.


25 posted on 06/03/2005 4:54:07 AM PDT by Hatteras
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Also this CITIZEN gets a felony record, plus a fine ???

This will also disallow her from owning a firearm.

26 posted on 06/03/2005 4:54:57 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

"Unbelivable"...yup sure is.....and I dont........the knife was "art-fully concealed".
Not cool


27 posted on 06/03/2005 4:55:45 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Coop
Tyranny. O-tay 'Panky!

Did I stutter?

28 posted on 06/03/2005 4:55:45 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ActionNewsBill
One of the prerequisites for employment by the Transportation Security Administration is the applicant must be as brain dead as the bureaucrats that run TSA.
29 posted on 06/03/2005 4:56:32 AM PDT by Beckwith (I knew Churchill, and Ward Churchill is no Churchill . . . he ain't no Indian either . . .)
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To: mo
apparently the only consistent policy within the TSA is they've forgotten whom they work for.....as have, apparently, their congressional masters.

I agree with you. I spend a lot of time flying from place to place and I have just about had it with rude, lazy, and overbearing TSA workers.

They seem to think that we're doing them a favor by flying.

Jerks

30 posted on 06/03/2005 4:59:17 AM PDT by gruffwolf
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To: ClearCase_guy

I'm guessing she embellished this story a bit but never underestimate the cluelessness of a minimum wage security guard.


31 posted on 06/03/2005 4:59:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Junior_G
Brain-dead zero-tolerance policies suck no matter where they're applied.

Oh, zero-tolerance might work very good on our borders, but *of course* no one even wants to try it there.

32 posted on 06/03/2005 5:00:23 AM PDT by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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To: ActionNewsBill
"My concern is that if that's the way they're treating American citizens I would hate to think how they're treating other people. It's crazy."

Oh, I'm sure the real terrorist types are being treated just fine. Probably lots of them walked right past when you were being interrogated and harassed.Got to be careful not to offend any swarthy type foreigners and/or illegals you know.

Crazy? Nah. It's just that it's hard to see, let alone think clearly, when one's head is wedged that far up his/her posterior.

33 posted on 06/03/2005 5:00:32 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: Beckwith
One of the prerequisites for employment by the Transportation Security Administration is the applicant must be as brain dead as the bureaucrats that run TSA.

Not really a prerequisite, but it helps.

A friend of mine, a college graduate with multiple degrees, a conservative, and an ex-Ranger, who was fed up with the job market found employment at the TSA.

He's certainly not brain-dead- but he does shake his head at some of the policies they've put in place.

34 posted on 06/03/2005 5:00:46 AM PDT by Egon (Your tagline offends me.)
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To: AppyPappy

13.80 - 15.00 +- is not minimum wage


35 posted on 06/03/2005 5:00:52 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: ActionNewsBill
Achmed is not going to try and take over a plane with a butter knife, while towing around 37 kids.

Why not?

36 posted on 06/03/2005 5:03:21 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: ActionNewsBill

Hmmm... NY Congressman Maurice Hinchey flies into DC with a pistol in his carry-on and gets a pass, but this lady gets caught with a serrated knife and is a terrorist? It speaks wonders to the idiocy of certain policies.

Yes, she broke the rules. Yes, there should be some repercussions for that. But there should be limits to the stupidity.


37 posted on 06/03/2005 5:03:42 AM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: ActionNewsBill
Did I stutter?

You mean like this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1272995/posts?page

38 posted on 06/03/2005 5:03:44 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: ActionNewsBill
The TSA reminds travelers that is has the authority to impose civil penalties up to $10,000 per violation.

And we need to remind TSA and the airlines that we have the authority to never buy a plane ticket again.

I haven't flown since 9/11 and it has nothing to do with terrorists, and everything to do with not wanting my wife or four year old daughter grope searched by TSA lesbians.

39 posted on 06/03/2005 5:05:38 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (</i>)
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To: ActionNewsBill
This will also disallow her from owning a firearm.

Sure will, 'cause you know ALL out laws/fines are enforced against CITIZENS.

40 posted on 06/03/2005 5:06:33 AM PDT by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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To: ActionNewsBill
This can only happen, because people like you and me have allowed it to happen.

STOP!

41 posted on 06/03/2005 5:06:59 AM PDT by Hunble (Retired after 20 years with the U.S. Army)
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To: ActionNewsBill

Sounds like the TSA needs a complete overhaul, from the top, down. Remember the "band"? Didn't that turn out to be "nothing"? I stand corrected on that one. I won't fly again unless it's of the uttmost emergency.


42 posted on 06/03/2005 5:07:00 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Coop
What's your point?

TSA is not doing much, if anything to keep terrorists off the planes with these asinine policies against otherwise law-abiding citizens.

43 posted on 06/03/2005 5:07:16 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ActionNewsBill
Haven't flown for 873 days. Only flew once since 2001-9-11 on business, because I had too.

I will never fly again until the minimum-IQ TSA gestapo are history.

The biggest threat to commercial air traffic is shoulder-fired missiles, ala TWA Flight 800, and all the TSA morons in the world rooting through your underwear won't protect your flight from them.

44 posted on 06/03/2005 5:08:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: ActionNewsBill
The TSA is not looking for real terrorist as it would not be PC for them to look at Arabs/Islamic radicals so they harass non terrorist.
45 posted on 06/03/2005 5:10:22 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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This can only happen, because people like you and me have allowed it to happen.

The blame for this idiocy lies squarely with the Bush administration.

46 posted on 06/03/2005 5:10:26 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: hopespringseternal
As a smoker, I am now prohibited from flying on any airline, because I use a BIC cigarette lighter.

And they wonder why the airline industry is going bankrupt.

47 posted on 06/03/2005 5:11:21 AM PDT by Hunble (Retired after 20 years with the U.S. Army)
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To: Hatteras
Well, maybe at least she'll think twice the next time she suspends some 1st grader for drawing a picture of a knife or gun.

Do you know that she ever has?

48 posted on 06/03/2005 5:12:17 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: ActionNewsBill
The blame for this idiocy lies squarely with the Bush administration.

That is true, since President Bush could sign an Executive Order to halt this TSA stupidity at any time.

49 posted on 06/03/2005 5:13:46 AM PDT by Hunble (Retired after 20 years with the U.S. Army)
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To: Xenophobic Alien
But this general over all zero tolerance policy will get some innocent people just like it does in our schools.

Excellent point. Wonder if Grandma ever got all over one of her students for drawing a picture of a gun?

50 posted on 06/03/2005 5:14:11 AM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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