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Posted on 06/03/2005 7:23:51 AM PDT by w6ai5q37b
Former FBI second-in-command Mark Felt, who recently stepped forward as Watergate's "Deep Throat," was a foe of both presidential corruption and domestic terrorism.
Its difficult to know if radio ranter Michael Savage seriously believes that 91-year-old former FBI second-in-command Mark Felt, freshly revealed as the Watergate whistleblower known as "Deep Throat," should be thrown in prison, along with his daughter Joan. During his June 1 program, Savage reasoned (if the word can be tortured into applying here) that since Joan Felt had long known her fathers secret, she had the duty to turn him in to the authorities for prosecution. This would make perfect sense in Stalins Soviet Union, that is, which made a state hero out of young Pavlik Morozov for informing on his father.
While most other right-leaning commentators havent embraced Savages neo-Stalinist perspective on the matter, many consider Felt to be a criminal and something akin to a traitor -- or worse.
Felt "broke the law, broke his code of ethics, [and] broke his oath" by serving as "the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodwards articles that helped depose Richard Nixon," insists Ben Stein. Nixons removal, Stein asserts, "made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide."
Peggy Noonan of the Wall Street Journal echoes Steins assessment, writing that Nixons downfall led to "a cascade of catastrophic events the crude and humiliating abandonment of Vietnam and the Vietnamese, the rise of a monster named Pol Pot, and millions millions killed in his genocide. America lost confidence; the Soviet Union gained brazenness."
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Although generally on target, the Birchers get a little Hillaryesque at time.
The victory of my enemy is my defeat.
What Everybody's Missing About Deep Throat (He Would Have Buried Watergate)
Self | June 2, 2005 | JohnRobertson
Posted on 06/02/2005 8:21:22 PM PDT by John Robertson
While many MSM'ers (sorry, most) are lionizing this guy as "a hero," someone who "did what he had to do," something big is being missed.
Our side has pointed out that he authorized/engineered illegal breakins himself...
And that he turned on the Whitehouse because he didn't get the top FBI job. Now think about that....
Felt became a snitch because he didn't get something he wanted! He was an opportunist, plain and simple (and it runs in the family, apparently, as they shamelessly say they urged the old man to do it so they could all get some money). Yeah, a real hero.
But here's what I haven't seen....
If they had made him the head of the FBI, he WOULD NOT have turned on the Whitehouse.
In fact, as head of the FBI....
HE WOULD HAVE HELPED THEM BURY WATERGATE!
US recognition of Communist China
How do you propose we deal with a nation of over 1 billion people? We can't ignore them or cling to the fantasy that Taiwan is the real government of China. By establishing diplomatic relations with China, Nixon was recognizing a political reality, not approving the Communist regime. We also recognized the Soviet Union decades earlier.
Are you proposing that the US cut off diplomatic relations with the PRC now? Why didn't Reagan reverse this decision seven years later?
Elimination of precious metal backing of US currency.
Are you proposing that we go back on the gold standard?
Some advocate the gold standard because it gets government out of the business of controlling the money supply. They fear that printing money creates inflation, and retracting money causes recessions. But the opposite is also true: printing money cures recessions, and retracting it cures inflation. Governments in the last 60 years have used these policies with tremendous success. There has not been a single depression or bank panic in any nation anywhere in the world using Keynesian monetary policies. But during the Gilded Age of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, depressions and bank panics were common. The historical record is so strong that mainstream economists reject the gold standard almost universally.
Picking a possible Soviet agent (Kissinger) as his Secretary of State
No comment necessary. What proof do you have that Kissinger, a German Jew and refugee from Hitler, was a Soviet agent?
Refused to allow the US to win the [unconstitutional] Vietnam war.
Nixon inherited the Vietnam War from LBJ, who was the one who hobbled the US military in winning the war. When Nixon was elected in November 1968, a number of events had already shaped the US view of the war and its winability.
On Jan. 31, 1968, the first day of the celebration of the lunar new year, Vietnam's most important holiday, the Vietnamese Communists launched a major offensive throughout South Vietnam. It took weeks for U.S. and South Vietnamese troops to retake all of the captured cities, including the former imperial capital of Hue. Although the offensive was not militarily successful for the Vietnamese Communists, it was a political and psychological victory for them. It dramatically contradicted optimistic claims by the U.S. government that the war had already been won. Walter Cronkite and the rest of the MSM declared that the war was lost.
The My Lai massacre occurred in March 1968.
Add to these factors, the assassination of MLK in April and RFK in June. Domestically, the country was in turmoil with civil rights and antiwar demonstrations. In 1968 and 1972 the Democrats had strong control over both houses of Congress. The mood of the country was to get out of Vietnam. It was also the reason why LBJ didn't run again for reelection.
Internationally, the Russians and the Warsaw Pact invaded Czechoslovakia in August 1968. In January 1968, the North Koreans had seized the USS Pueblo and held the crew for 11 months.
Nixon had to play the hand he was given. He had to get the US out of Vietnam with honor, which was the genesis of the Vietnamization program. Besides offering the North the carrot of a peace treaty, which would have kept South Vietnam free, Nixon invaded the sanctuary of Cambodia in 1970, which percipitated massive anti-war demonstrations in the US including at Kent State.
Although there was disagreement in Congress over the precise meaning of the Tonkin Gulf resolution, Presidents Johnson and Richard M. Nixon used it to justify later military action in Southeast Asia. The measure was repealed by Congress in 1970. In Jan 1971 Congress bars use of combat troops, but not air power, in Laos and Cambodia.
In 1972 Nixon responds to North Vietnamese drive across DMZ by ordering mining of North Vietnam ports and heavy bombing of Hanoi-Haiphong area (April 1). Nixon orders Christmas bombing of North to get North Vietnamese back to conference table (Dec.)
In 1973 Nixon orders halt to offensive operations in North Vietnam (Jan. 15). Representatives of North and South Vietnam, U.S., and N.L.F. sign peace pacts in Paris, ending longest war in U.S. history (Jan. 27). Last American troops departed in their entirety (March 29).
The Vietnamese violated this agreement. Moreover, Congress pulled the rug out from under the South Vietnamese by cutting off funding and arms. Congress had passed the Cooper-Church Amendment that cut off all funding for further military action, which prevented enforcement of the Paris Peace Agreement.
To blame Nixon for not allowing the US to win is pure nonsense. Public opinion and Congress left him no choice. If he had not been taken down by Watergate, there is the possibility that Nixon could have used US military power to stop the invasion by the North in 1975, invoking the Paris Peace Accords.
If they had kept pushing with Linebacker (April-October 1972) and especially Linebacker II (December 18-29, 1972), they still could have won. No-holds barred strategic bombardment at last -- NV was on its knees.
I am amazed how little people know about that era. The idea that someone could accuse Nixon of not allowing us to win is mind boggling. I was stationed in Vietnam ( a full year not four months) during Tet. My knowledge is contemperaneous, not from some Leftist revisionist history books.
Peddle that John Birch nonsense somewhere elsewhere. Accusing Kissinger as a possible Soviet agent is an unsubstantiated allegation unworthy of anyone with a modicum of intelligence.
As for the rest of what you've written, it is not even worth replying to..."how can we ignore a nation of over a biliion people...you mean you want to go back to the gold standard?..." Oh, horrors.
You can't reply because you don't know what you are talking about. Your comments about Kissinger speak for themselves.