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Hawaii Parents Protest School's Plan to Show Pro-Homosexual Video to Kids
AgapePress ^ | June 3, 2005 | Jim Brown

Posted on 06/03/2005 3:22:09 PM PDT by scripter

Today, a high school in Hawaii plans to show students a video that promotes homosexuality as normal and natural, a decision made despite the fact that several parents have raised objections to school administrators over the film's content and message.

Officials at King Kekaulike High School on the island of Maui say they intend to show the film It's Elementary as a way to teach tolerance toward homosexuals. However, several parents are opposed to the school's plan to show the film in isolation, saying it not only legitimizes homosexual lifestyles but also denies that ex-homosexuals exist.

In addition to proceeding with plans to show the controversial film, the school administrators also ignored a simple request from parents that another video called I Do Exist be shown to supplement It's Elementary. Featured in I Do Exist is a man who, as a teen, was interviewed for the other film but who has since left the homosexual lifestyle.

Estelle Wilkerson is a member of the group of concerned parents who raised objections over the school's planned showing of the pro-homosexual film. "We expressed our opinion," she says. "We offered another option. We even offered to come up with a committee that could be at the schools to supervise and help, like a security team of parents, just so that this harassment that, as you say, is happening on campus will stop, if in fact it is -- at least to the extent that they are making it seem [so that] it warrants this film."

However, since the school appears to have swept the parents concerns aside and is proceeding with the showing of It's Elementary to the students. Wilkerson admits that she and the other parents in the group are "feeling a little frustrated." The reason, she notes, is because, "when we're at the meetings, they express how wonderful it is for parents to be [involved] and how much they appreciate our presence and our concern," she says. However, the Maui mom adds, "Obviously, our opinion and what we have to say is unimportant, because we're still having this film."

The protesting parents feel the film scheduled for screening at King Kekaulike High School is both one-sided and outdated, since it features a homosexual teen who is now an adult and no longer involved in homosexual activity and also ignores the existence of former homosexuals like him. The parents group is concerned that by showing It's Elementary without the balancing perspective of a documentary like I Do Exist, the school will be presenting students with an incomplete and decidedly one-sided view of homosexuality.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: exgay; formerhomosexual; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; perversion; recruiting; sexeducation

1 posted on 06/03/2005 3:22:09 PM PDT by scripter
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To: little jeremiah

Ping


2 posted on 06/03/2005 3:22:23 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
In addition to proceeding with plans to show the controversial film, the school administrators also ignored a simple request from parents that another video called I Do Exist be shown to supplement It's Elementary. Featured in I Do Exist is a man who, as a teen, was interviewed for the other film but who has since left the homosexual lifestyle.

That is indeed a very key point.

3 posted on 06/03/2005 3:24:25 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

Oh!but whatever you do, do not allow the children to be exposed to the Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 06/03/2005 3:25:14 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: mariabush
Oh!but whatever you do, do not allow the children to be exposed to the Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!

And here's a case in point: Student sues after Bible study banned.

5 posted on 06/03/2005 3:31:56 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

So what do you do about something like this? How do you get momentum moving in your direction, when the school administration won't even listen to you? It's like you have lost before the battle is even joined.


7 posted on 06/03/2005 3:41:30 PM PDT by Dreagon
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To: Gwotcha

SO!!!!!!!


8 posted on 06/03/2005 3:45:40 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Gwotcha

in context would be better and your point would probably be more obvious. :)


9 posted on 06/03/2005 3:45:42 PM PDT by Rushgrrl (~brought to you from the illegal-rich state of California~)
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To: Dreagon
So what do you do about something like this?

There are some here who believe parents should stay and fight the public schools. I'm not one of them. As I see it, removing your children from public school is the best solution.

10 posted on 06/03/2005 3:50:23 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: mariabush; Gwotcha

What did Gwotcha, who signed up today, say?


11 posted on 06/03/2005 3:51:49 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
If you're interested...

Info about "It's Elementary." Be sure to read the entire page. But not on a full stomach :) $75 to rent, $250 to buy and it looks like you may have to be an "educational" organization to buy or rent it.

Info about "I Do Exist." The DVD is just 20 bucks.

12 posted on 06/03/2005 3:52:39 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: scripter
They took a scripture verse out of context.
13 posted on 06/03/2005 3:53:23 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: scripter

If homosexuality is normal and natural, how come most of us ain't doing it?


14 posted on 06/03/2005 3:53:53 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: scripter

Why aren't these perverts being prosecuted like the felons they are?


15 posted on 06/03/2005 3:54:30 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: upchuck
Thanks. I just may purchase It's Elementary (if allowed).

I have 9 more copies of the I Do Exist DVD. If you order 10 or more you can purchase them for $12 each. It's a great video, especially since there's a man interviewed on the DVD that is also on the It's Elementary video, yet now he's an ex-gay.

17 posted on 06/03/2005 3:56:57 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Gwotcha
Oh I can feel the love just pouring off of you.

You have never actually read what He taught have you.

18 posted on 06/03/2005 3:57:38 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I am not a romantic, I don't hero worship and no, as a matter of fact, I don't have a heart.)
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To: scripter
However, since the school appears to have swept the parents concerns aside and is proceeding with the showing of It's Elementary to the students. Wilkerson admits that she and the other parents in the group are "feeling a little frustrated." The reason, she notes, is because, "when we're at the meetings, they express how wonderful it is for parents to be [involved] and how much they appreciate our presence and our concern," she says. However, the Maui mom adds, "Obviously, our opinion and what we have to say is unimportant, because we're still having this film."

It pains me to say this, but I believe the public education system in this country is beyond saving. They have their agenda, and they simply will not be stopped. It does not matter what parents or citizens or taxpayers think. The schools are going to do what they are going to do.

For parents, the only sensible alternative is to remove their children from the public school system. Catholic schools, private schools, homeschool, or whatever, it has to be a better alternative than the public schools. Putting your child in public school is simply not an option, because they will work to defeat you at every turn.

I know it is expensive, but what are one's children worth?

I know we all have to pay for public education whether we use it or not, but this will not change. Throwing your precious children down the educational rat-hole after you have already thrown in your money just compounds the error.

19 posted on 06/03/2005 3:58:26 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Dreagon
So what do you do about something like this? How do you get momentum moving in your direction, when the school administration won't even listen to you? It's like you have lost before the battle is even joined.

You can't. Get your children out. Save yourselves. You can't save the schools, because they don't want to be saved.

20 posted on 06/03/2005 3:59:37 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: scripter

As stupid as this is...if my kid attended that school, I'd simply pull him out of school that day.


21 posted on 06/03/2005 4:00:22 PM PDT by doctor noe
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To: scripter

Betcha the homoactivists on Maui are largely liberal "imports" from the mainland.


22 posted on 06/03/2005 4:02:17 PM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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To: scripter
The article does not say when the school will be assaulting the students with this piece of trash.

However, it would be interesting to compare the absenteeism rate for that day with the normal rate.

23 posted on 06/03/2005 4:02:18 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mariabush
Thanks. They're banned now after their latest post.

It's really sad that the message of, and from ex-gays is a message they're not interested in hearing.

24 posted on 06/03/2005 4:02:23 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: doctor noe

If you don't think this attitude has infected the school at every level, and think the school will not work indefatigably to get this attitude drilled into every student, whether their parents like it or not, you're living in a fool's paradise.


25 posted on 06/03/2005 4:03:42 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

The public schools in Hawaii are in particularly bad shape. At least on Oahu there are other options, less on the outer islands (this story is from Maui).


26 posted on 06/03/2005 4:04:55 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: gridlock

"If you don't think this attitude has infected the school at every level, and think the school will not work indefatigably to get this attitude drilled into every student, whether their parents like it or not, you're living in a fool's paradise."

If my kid is taking college-prep classes in high school, I'm not going to worry about it. Tell me how my kid is going to get indoctrinated in his calculus, chemistry, physics and biology classes? Believe me, if I got the sense that the school was going out of its way to indoctrinate my kid, I would pull him out faster than you could say jack robinson. BTW, we homeschool one of our kids.


27 posted on 06/03/2005 4:12:56 PM PDT by doctor noe
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To: scripter
Here's what these people need to figure out... If homosexuality is natural and Darwin is science fact then that would mean homosexuality would've been bread out of existance. That would make any "real"(if there is such a thing) cases of homosexuality a genetic abnormality.

Either way you cut it, Creationist or Darwinist, it's not normal per your beliefs!

28 posted on 06/03/2005 4:50:33 PM PDT by BROKKANIC
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To: scripter

Recruiting sexual deviants in high school should be illegal. I don't think we pay taxes so the money can be used to develop and create more sexual perverts.


29 posted on 06/03/2005 4:50:54 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: doctor noe

Keep your eyes open, friend. Talk to your kids. Protect them like a momma tiger protects her cubs.

But it sounds like you are already on the case. In my situation, I have not had to take the course that you have, but it is good to see you proceeding with caution. Good luck.


30 posted on 06/03/2005 7:16:22 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: little jeremiah
Update to this story - I think the original was never pung out.

School video preaches tolerance

About 28 percent of the 1,060 eligible students at King Kekaulike High School on Maui saw a video yesterday encouraging tolerant behavior toward homosexuals.

School officials had planned to show the video to all ninth-, 10th- and 11th-graders, but after some parents and residents objected, they decided to require written parental permission to see the video.

Principal Susan Scofield said she felt attendance was good -- about 300 students -- considering the video was not a part of a grade for a course and required written parental permission.

"It showed interest in allowing students to view for themselves so that students can grow and give their opinions about it," she said.

About 760 students did not return permission forms.

A couple of students who saw the video said it held their interest and did a good job in looking at homosexuality.

"I thought it addressed the question well," said Brian Ujiie, 17, a junior. "It wasn't as some people said trying to promote it."

Melody Sagario, 14, a freshman and student body president, said she felt the video was "just promoting tolerance and that gay people are just like us and they shouldn't be treated differently."

Sagario said she thought the video did a good job in giving various perspectives and did not seem like it was promoting homosexuality as being biological, as voiced by some critics.

Scofield said the students might have different opinions about the video, called It's Elementary: Talking About Gay Issues, but the intent of showing it was to foster tolerance and respect.

Students viewed the video in the cafeteria during one showing, as part of an advisory class where they receive counseling.

Kenneth Nomura, the Central Maui area complex superintendent, said the video was shown because there were cases of harassment.

A gay student left King Kekaulike after being beaten, and another has said he does not plan to return to the school for his senior year.

"If we look at it as being anti-harassment and pro-tolerance, then it's not a controversial issue, but people are making it a controversial issue," Nomura said.

The Rev. Dale Kreps, who objected to showing the video without presenting opposing views of homosexuality, said he had no problem showing the video, but felt that education officials might have been misguided.

Kreps said he has heard that the school had not done a good job at encouraging tolerance in general, and officials should not just focus on anti-homosexual behavior.

He said "It's Elementary" also portrays homosexuality as natural and biological, and that the school should also show the video I Do Exist, which presents homosexuality as a lifestyle choice.

Kreps said a main character in "It's Elementary" appears in the "I Do Exist" video and discusses how he made a mistake and thought he was gay but realized he was heterosexual.

31 posted on 06/06/2005 12:20:04 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: upchuck
However, it would be interesting to compare the absenteeism rate for that day with the normal rate.

There's an update to this story in post 31.

32 posted on 06/06/2005 12:21:23 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

Thanks - I'll ping the list.

Some valuable articles didn't get pung out, but my life is quieting down so that shouldn't happen so much.

I wish my "ping" page would show more than 20 replies/comments. Do you know how to make it show more?


33 posted on 06/06/2005 4:09:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Make sure you read post #31 and click the link.

Yup, kids are being indoctrinated all right. And just opting out your own kids doesn't protect them enough. In this case, kids had to be opted in, but often that is not the case.

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.


34 posted on 06/06/2005 4:12:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: scripter
I think it's time for legal action by the parents. The parents need to take a proactive stance against this immoral action. Amen.
35 posted on 06/06/2005 4:25:16 PM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: scripter

This movie has been reported to be particularly intense with respect to Christian-bashing.


36 posted on 06/06/2005 4:47:50 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: little jeremiah
Unless I missed something, the original article and the update, because of 2 students, over 1,000 students were set to view this movie??????

Did the parents involvement and protestations turn the viewing into an "opt in opt out" situation?

37 posted on 06/06/2005 6:02:32 PM PDT by mother22wife21
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To: scripter

Thanks for pinging me back to this thread.


39 posted on 06/06/2005 7:13:34 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform; Clint N. Suhks
I was looking for a thread from April 28 and finally found it in my old ping pages from that time. Unfortunately, the thread was pulled. The thread was titled:
West High math teacher accused of anti-gay remarks plans to resign
A friend of mine knows the West High teacher. The teacher, Mr. Thompson, quit his high tech job to teach in his home town, but after a year decided to quit teaching and move out of the state.

It turns out the press completely got the story wrong, of which you are probably not surprised. Here's a sequence of events:

It was made to look like Mr. Thompson resigned because of the issues surrounding his views on homosexuality. He didn't as he had already turned in his resignation letter. There have been quite a few misrepresentations about Mr. Thompson since that time.

Last week, a parent from one of the students came into his classroom and assaulted him. I'm not sure of the extent of the assault - my friend is checking. It was something along the lines of pushing him up against a wall and holding him there - I'll find out more.

How's that for tolerance?

I'm going to try and interview Mr. Thompson.

40 posted on 06/06/2005 10:29:06 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: upchuck

Your welcome. Read post 40...


41 posted on 06/06/2005 10:30:06 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

Unblievable.

I don't know, Scripter, what it's coming to.

The right side has to win, or we lose freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of religion.


42 posted on 06/07/2005 6:48:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: scripter
I'm going to try and interview Mr. Thompson.

Keep me in the loop.

43 posted on 06/07/2005 7:42:10 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: Exposure To The Son May Prevent Burning.)
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To: k2blader
Betcha the homoactivists on Maui are largely liberal "imports" from the mainland.

I agree.

The folks from Maui that I know (who live on the mainland now, and are natives from there) are very pro-family (ohana), and down to earth. The guys that I know, especially, don't put up with a lot of "fluff" if you know what I mean :)

44 posted on 06/07/2005 8:13:24 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." .........Jerry Fletcher)
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To: scripter; little jeremiah
please include me on your "ping-pung" list :)

Thanks.

45 posted on 06/07/2005 8:30:53 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." .........Jerry Fletcher)
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To: kstewskis

I will add your name right now!


46 posted on 06/07/2005 9:50:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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