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Feds: KKK Still Very Active in North Carolina
ABC Local ^ | 6/4/05 | ABC Local

Posted on 06/03/2005 11:19:59 PM PDT by freedom44

(05/26/05 -- DURHAM) — There's no confirmation that the Ku Klux Klan was involved in any of the cross burnings Wednesday night in Durham. But Eyewitness News has uncovered evidence that the KKK is still active in our area.

A federal law enforcement source tells Eyewitness News that agents are talking with people who are connected to local hate groups, hoping to get some fresh leads in Wednesday's cross burnings. It's not clear if the Klan itself is responsible or some other group.

The source said the burnings are a very high law enforcement priority and every available resource is being put into the investigation.

Authorities are increasingly concerned about hate groups engaging in what they call domestic terrorism.

James Wickstrom considers himself the "grand chaplain" of the Aryan Nations. Federal officials say his calls to action are similar to those of Osama bin Laden.

In fact, an FBI report obtained by ABC News identifies 22 groups as domestic terror organizations. Those groups are the focus of 338 active FBI field investigations.

Officials say fewer people are showing up in person for meetings and cross burnings. Instead, the Internet has become the principal recruitment tool for hate groups.

Eyewitness News has also learned that many hate groups operating in the western United States, especially in California and Idaho, are working to recruit young people in the South.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: kkk
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1 posted on 06/03/2005 11:20:00 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Anyone seen Robert Byrd lately?


2 posted on 06/03/2005 11:23:02 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: freedom44

Feds: KKK Still Very Active in North Carolina


Bull$hit, Bull$hit, Bull$hit!!!


3 posted on 06/03/2005 11:29:04 PM PDT by BBell
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To: noiseman
I think Bird was down there fund raising.
4 posted on 06/03/2005 11:29:08 PM PDT by Brimack34 (Why does the MSM hate our military?)
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To: noiseman
Anyone seen Robert Byrd lately?

No, but I was in West Virginia last week and drove across the bridge he's named after.

5 posted on 06/03/2005 11:29:09 PM PDT by smoothsailing (QuiNhon6869)
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To: smoothsailing

I was just wondering if he had taken back up his old hobby.


6 posted on 06/03/2005 11:32:48 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: freedom44

I want to see a headline that says:

FEDS: CAIR still very active on college campuses

FEDS: Nation of Islam still very active in prisons

FEDS: ACLU still very active in Washington D.C.

FEDS: MEChA still active in California


7 posted on 06/03/2005 11:35:46 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Constitution Day; Tijeras_Slim

8 posted on 06/03/2005 11:36:04 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Shirtless at the 7-11)
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To: smoothsailing

Does it shake and go "pretty pretty pretty" ?


9 posted on 06/03/2005 11:37:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*Gregoire is French for Stealing an Election*)
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To: freedom44

Also in the Senate...


10 posted on 06/03/2005 11:40:22 PM PDT by dinok
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To: noiseman
What, he gave it up? Who Knew?
11 posted on 06/03/2005 11:40:55 PM PDT by smoothsailing (QuiNhon6869)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

LOL! It did, I swear!


12 posted on 06/03/2005 11:44:01 PM PDT by smoothsailing (QuiNhon6869)
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To: freedom44

Yeah, they must have, like 12 in the state...........


13 posted on 06/03/2005 11:45:16 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: martin_fierro

In the country of the land of OZ.................


14 posted on 06/03/2005 11:46:00 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: freedom44
the klan is here, there and everywhere today.

Too bad for the republic the SPLC did away with them, as they now live in the vast underground.

at least before they were eaten up we had an idea of the range and scope of their evil, now it is anyone's guess,

they have mutated into a thousand cells, all of them underground, none of them tractable, and all of them as potent and dangerous as their initiators.

You have to love America. We make it all possible, no matter how beautiful or repugnant.

We were safer when the klan felt safe enough to freely associate, now they are buried deeper than Hoffa.
15 posted on 06/04/2005 12:11:31 AM PDT by mmercier (all God's creatures)
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To: mmercier

Have you considered the possibility that no one belongs to the Klan anymore? That would also account for the fact that so very few if any hate crimes actually occur (and if they do, it's black on whatever). If you're looking for a ractist hate group, then the NAACP or MeChA are far more active, are right out there in full view, and pursue as destructive a policy as the Klan ever did. I'll give these two newbies one thing: they simply extort money with the threat of violence. Wonder where they learned that tactic? I'm pretty sure it wasn't the Klan, but then it does rather reek of another semi-underground group, most recently rhapsodized as New Jersey Bada-Bingers.

Personally, I still have a hard time visualizing several white guys, in sheets, driving through Durham with crosses in the back of the pickup, stopping several times, hauling out the crosses, digging holes for them, pouring gasoline on the lot and setting it afire, and getting away...

...with nobody seeing anything in a black neighborhood in blue central.

Really, that is a believable scenario?

Besides, exactly who is/are this/these 'Federal officials'?

When I see a name, I'll believe they're not simply blowing smoke up the reporter's most convenient orifice.

Thanks for what's left of my innocence,
-==Beleg==-


16 posted on 06/04/2005 12:53:38 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (I think, therefore I vote Republican)
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To: Constitution Day; TaxRelief; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; ...

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day OR TaxRelief OR Alia if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
17 posted on 06/04/2005 3:15:53 AM PDT by Alia
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To: freedom44

The KKK = 5 FBI agents for every two unemployed janitor.


18 posted on 06/04/2005 3:18:05 AM PDT by Clemenza (The Ice Cream Truck in my Neighborhood Plays Helter Skelter)
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To: BelegStrongbow
"Personally, I still have a hard time visualizing several white guys, in sheets, driving through Durham with crosses in the back of the pickup, stopping several times, hauling out the crosses, digging holes for them, pouring gasoline on the lot and setting it afire, and getting away...

...with nobody seeing anything in a black neighborhood in blue central.
"

You're questioning all the wrong things. Who was harmed and how much money and what kind of program is required to make them, their neighbors, their cousins, their cousins' cousins, their dogs, and their cats feel better?

19 posted on 06/04/2005 3:27:53 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: azhenfud

Ho ho ho. (actually smiling - good followup, az)

I do really dislike getting radical but it does appear to me like race nazis are getting pretty active. And you know, just seeing this be settled without having these microphone hogs get any cash would simply make my day. Durham will just have to muddle along with the sales tax on Bulls and Blue Devil tickets. Oh, and maybe for some pots thrown with pretty pix on the sides.


20 posted on 06/04/2005 3:31:40 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (I think, therefore I vote Republican)
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To: BBell

I was thinking the same thing.

If they were "very active", we'd have heard much more about it by now. Every L/MSM outlet in the universe would have sent a team in to do an "on the scene!" report.


21 posted on 06/04/2005 3:36:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: BelegStrongbow
When I see a name, I'll believe they're not simply blowing smoke up the reporter's most convenient orifice.

Sounds more like a reporter blowing smoke. Oh, excuse me, the preess NEVER LIES.

22 posted on 06/04/2005 3:48:17 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: BelegStrongbow

Let's follow the money. The Durham board of executioners will have to decide exactly how much money to pour into the area.

With the Wachovia extortion hustle, IMO Durham is being shaken by the (money) trunk - and I don't think the shaker's are wearing white.


23 posted on 06/04/2005 3:49:20 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: mmercier

The KKK and white supremacists are the biggest pack of pathetic losers infesting society today. They're buried, all right, in their own hate, which alone gives distinction to their bottomhugging lives. When all you've got going for you is the pale shade of your own miserable hide, you're a certified loser.

BTW, the Klan can obtain a permit and march anywhere, anytime. They are not legally banned from parading in their ridiculous robes. But on the rare occasion when they do appear, the turnout is pathetic. This `feared racist underground movement' has to be protected by the police.

I once knew a co-worker from Deep Yankeeland (he is a Bwoston Masshole) who was convinced that it is dangerous to publicly criticize the KKK here in South Carolina.

Yes, there are individuals who carry racism locked up inside their skulls. What, if anything, do they ever do about it?

BTW, I'm a rockhard Reagan Republican. Sorry if anything in the above could be construed as liberal. Conservatives hate the KKK, too.


24 posted on 06/04/2005 4:32:34 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970
BTW, I'm a rockhard Reagan Republican. Sorry if anything in the above could be construed as liberal. Conservatives hate the KKK, too.

I have to take exception, liberals love the KKK, it is the only political offence they have left in the south. If it wern't for the KKK, and the fear associated with it, they would never get the southern black vote.

25 posted on 06/04/2005 5:01:36 AM PDT by snodog
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To: Alia

"In fact, an FBI report obtained by ABC News identifies 22 groups as domestic terror organizations. Those groups are the focus of 338 active FBI field investigations."

Typical media projecting here. The reporter ASSUMES the "hate groups" are white and KKK. There may well be 22 groups -- 21 Islamic, black, Mexican, whatever, and 1 white group. But somehow the media assumes if it's hate, it's white.


26 posted on 06/04/2005 5:04:06 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: BBell

The couple of KKK rallies I protested in my hometown must've been my imagination.


27 posted on 06/04/2005 5:05:42 AM PDT by Nataku X
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To: freedom44

The KKK is still very active in the United States Senate also.

Why no mention of this by either the Feds or main stream media?


28 posted on 06/04/2005 5:08:48 AM PDT by sport
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To: Nataku X

OK, I reached the end of this thread.

My only consolation is that the State of Denial will produce a whopping number of electoral votes for the 2008 Republican candidate.


29 posted on 06/04/2005 5:09:55 AM PDT by Nataku X (Scotty, beam me up. There's no intelligent life here.)
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To: BBell
Bull$hit, Bull$hit, Bull$hit!!!

The article didn't have much in the way of information, did it.

There's no confirmation that the Ku Klux Klan was involved... It's not clear if the Klan itself is responsible...

But we'll mention them anyway.

... an FBI report obtained by ABC News identifies 22 groups as domestic terror organizations.

... the Internet has become the principal recruitment tool for hate groups.

... many hate groups operating in the western United States, especially in California...

And the names of these hate groups are?

30 posted on 06/04/2005 5:20:16 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Alia; NCSteve
Feds: KKK Still Very Active in North Carolina

LOL!! Sure it is. I can't tell you how many Klan meetings I see or hear about every weekend. Heck, I just found out from an 'informed' source on this very website they're walking around the circle in the center of my town. When in fact, it's almost been literally decades since I've seen one of those idiots in hoods or their counterparts.

Just more bad reporting from WTVD. Of course that's what I've come to expect from that television station.

31 posted on 06/04/2005 6:19:40 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
walking around the circle in the center of my town

I saw 3 in 1975.

They were being roundly jeered by the citizens of Buchanan, Ga.

32 posted on 06/04/2005 6:28:44 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: freedom44

Saying the Feds are full of sh*t in this case , would be over simplification. The Fed's are just as aware as the rest of us are, that if the KKK was spotted owls it would be number one on the endangered species list. Yes number one and being a baby eating predator has never kept any other species from it's rightful place on that list.

The KKK serves the guvment so well with it's reputation as a despised and feared boogie man, to distract our attention away from the real demons that genuinely threaten us,whom the government either out of fear or because of complicity therein, wishes to ignore- and unlike Teri Schiavo, will be forever kept on life support by the Feds, despite it's obvious permanent vegitative state.


33 posted on 06/04/2005 6:53:30 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Aborting your own allows you to be taxed more heavily to support illegal alien's unaffordable heirs.)
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To: freedom44
Anywhere in the south where white trash is moving from the country to the city you will find a handful of resentful losers joining the Klan when they see 'other people' getting the jobs they want.

So9

34 posted on 06/04/2005 7:24:55 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: elcid1970
>> I once knew a co-worker from Deep Yankeeland (he is a Bwoston Masshole) who was convinced that it is dangerous to publicly criticize the KKK here in South Carolina.


I am a masshole and can understand how your co-worker thought while south of the Mason Dixon line. Guilt and fear, that is primary symptom of the leftist mental disorder.

I also know that the klan types are much safer in the north, people here having less actual contact with their evil when acting out, we "tolerate" them to be "fair".

The real racists live up here, in economically segregated communities, fat happy and dumb they tolerate anything, so long is it happens in someone else's town.

It is fun to watch real "fascists" requiring police protection trying to march; how sweet is that irony...? The right kicked out our lunatic fringe long ago, wonder how long before the left understands that their lunatic fringe is what is killing them at the polls.

The klan btw was a product of the rat party, "sheets" Byrd being its last member holding high office.... As far as I know.

>>>The KKK and white supremacists are the biggest pack of pathetic losers infesting society today.

That is not true, there is much worse. The white supremacists are small in number and credibility. Those who are a true threat to society abound up here, they are commie pedoperv queers who run our governments, state and local. They are writing the laws to force their disorder on to a miseducated population who does not have the mental capacity to tell chit from shinola boot polish.
35 posted on 06/04/2005 7:27:50 AM PDT by mmercier (all God's creatures)
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To: Clemenza
The KKK = 5 FBI agents for every two unemployed janitor.

Exactly.
The Communist Party USA finally collapsed when all the FBI agents stopped paying their dues. If they and the ATF would drop out of the Klan, it would shrink to complete impotence.

So9

36 posted on 06/04/2005 7:38:15 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: freedom44
The DARK LORD OF THE SITH

37 posted on 06/04/2005 8:09:35 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim

As a North Carolina native, I can tell you that this is BULLSH!T at best and fearmongering at worst.


38 posted on 06/04/2005 8:52:00 AM PDT by Constitution Day (It's hard to get an answer when you haven't got a clue)
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To: freedom44

Very active?

I'm sure they have a good number of members, but that getting together for a secret "WE hate everybody but us meeting" doesn't equate to "active".

I've seen mega churches that aren't active.


39 posted on 06/04/2005 8:56:01 AM PDT by AlGone2001 (I'm still waiting to hear from the RNC Chairman)
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To: Nataku X

I'll bet there were more protesters at the KKK rallies you protested then there were KKK members. Whats left of the KKK is just a bunch of lame brain half wit societal misfits looking for attention. I wouldn't worry about them.


40 posted on 06/04/2005 9:13:00 AM PDT by BBell
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To: Constitution Day; martin_fierro
As a North Carolina native, I can tell you that this is BULLSH!T at best and fearmongering at worst.

Threw you out for wearing contour sheets, eh? :)

41 posted on 06/04/2005 9:33:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Constitution Day

I'm experiencing cognitive dissonance here.

42 posted on 06/04/2005 10:14:21 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Shirtless at the 7-11)
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To: azhenfud

And I don't think the MSM is going to permit the money trail to be followed, unless people do the detecting themselves. Which would be putting in the foundation for a replacement Media, one which actually finds out facts and prints them, with background, simply for the purpose of making clear what's going on.

-==Beleg==-


43 posted on 06/04/2005 1:48:51 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (I think, therefore I vote Republican)
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To: freedom44

I see a lot of Muslim head scarves around NC but never anybody wearing a sheet.


44 posted on 06/04/2005 2:44:24 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: billbears; Alia; Constitution Day

We're just infested with them up here. We have to keep the sugar locked up at night and they leave trails up the side of the porch. Oh...wait...that was ants, not Klansmen. Of course I could see how the human paperweights in the FBI could get that mixed up.


45 posted on 06/04/2005 5:52:01 PM PDT by NCSteve
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To: everyone

It isn't domestic terrorism unless the crosses are burned on people's lawns.

For this to be a "very high priority" is utterly pathetic.

As far as I'm concerned, the Anti-Christian Liberal Un-Americans (ACLU) are a hate group that is very active not just in a few scattered areas of the South, but everywhere in America. What's more, they actually have enormous power. I'm about 100 times more concerned about them than I am about whatever minuscule remnants of the Klan there might be.


46 posted on 06/04/2005 5:57:38 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: freedom44
These people are going to be soooo embarrassed when this turns out to be a bunch of frat boys from UNC-CH or Duke. Even more embarrassed when it turns out to be the Tawana Brawley scenario. Incredibly embarrassed when it turns out to be half a dozen jack-leg rednecks out joyriding.

Or maybe not. These local news types tend to be too stupid to be embarrassed. They'll just run a story about how it could have been the Klan and how lucky we are that it wasn't.

47 posted on 06/04/2005 6:00:49 PM PDT by NCSteve
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Aren't seven out of every four Klansment federal agents or informers?

No, I said that right.


48 posted on 06/04/2005 6:05:44 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (BTDT got the T shirt, shot glass, shoulder patch, challenge coin, coffee mug....)
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To: Eagle Eye

Seven out of every four? I heard it was more like fifteen out of every five.


49 posted on 06/04/2005 6:46:41 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Aborting your own entitles you to be brutally taxed to support illegal alien's unaffordable heirs.)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Typical media projecting here. The reporter ASSUMES the "hate groups" are white and KKK. There may well be 22 groups -- 21 Islamic, black, Mexican, whatever, and 1 white group. But somehow the media assumes if it's hate, it's white.

Every racialist group but "white" is covered under the "hate crimes protection" laws. That's an influental factor, no doubt. Gays want the "same protection under hate crimes laws" as RACE. Three guesses why. So the MSM and Federales can continue to have to follow those "biased, special, protection laws.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn if California Unionmeisters would also like to see CA "Unions" added to the special protections == all of it for the same political, activist judicial reasons.

50 posted on 06/05/2005 4:06:49 AM PDT by Alia
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