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The Debate for California's Soul; Speech by Tom McClintock
Sen. Tom McClintock | June 4, 2005 | Sen. Tom McClintock

Posted on 06/04/2005 5:50:01 PM PDT by calif_reaganite

Senator Tom McClintock
The Debate for California’s Soul
Remarks at the California Club for Growth PAC Annual Conference
June 4, 2005

Thank you for that kind reception. Cardinal Spellman once said that public speaking brings out the best of Christian virtues in an audience. If you applaud, as you just did, at the beginning of a speech, it is an act of faith. If you applaud in the middle of a speech, it is an act of hope. And if you applaud at the end of a speech, it is an act of charity.

So thank you for that act of faith, and I can only hope that by the time I’m done, you are feeling just as charitable.

First, I want to extend my gratitude to all of you for your support of the California Club for Growth and to salute Tony Strickland’s leadership of the Club’s efforts here in our state.

You are here because you remember what politicians often forget: that great political parties are built on great political principles. And they are judged by their devotion to those principles.

Abraham Lincoln said that every political party has a “central idea from which all of its minor thoughts radiate.” And at an inaugural stop at Independence Hall in 1861, he defined ours: he said, “I have never had a feeling, politically, that did not spring from the sentiments embodied in the Declaration of Independence.”

The great principle from which all of the Republican party’s minor principles radiate is precisely that sentiment: that individuals are born with certain God-given rights that government exists to protect. In a word, Freedom.

And the central theme from which all of the Democratic Party’s minor thoughts radiate is that government exists to order society according to the best lights of those in power.

The purpose of the Club for Growth is to remind everyone of the difference. And nothing could be more important for the future of the Republican party, because, as a practical matter, the closer the Republican party has adhered to its central theme the stronger it has become and the better it has done.

So, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you.

I’ve been asked to propose a 12-point program to correct all the damage that a generation of liberalism has done to California. I can do it in one. You’ll find it on the Liberty Bell – “Proclaim Liberty throughout the land and unto ALL the inhabitants thereof.” Everything else is commentary.

If that sounds too pat, let me ask you for a show of hands. How many of you have friends or neighbors who have left California in the last several years for the middle of the Nevada or Arizona deserts?

Now let me ask you this question: could any conceivable act of God make this beautiful state a less desirable place for people to live and work and raise their families than the middle of the Nevada Nuclear Test Range?

Only government could do that. And it has.

If you want to know what California CAN be, you need only remember what California once was. A generation ago, California’s highways were the envy of the world. We had one of the finest school systems in the country and the finest university system in the world. Electricity was so cheap that there was serious discussion of abandoning electricity meters. The state water project promised abundant water supplies to complete the greening of California. Affordable housing abounded at all income levels. California really was the Golden State.

The Left tells us that that’s the taxpayers fault for not being willing to spend enough money on government.

Here are the facts. Exactly 40 years ago, when Californians enjoyed an unparalleled quality of life, state government spent $202 for every man, woman and child. Adjusted for inflation, that’s $1,240 in today’s dollars. Today, California government consumes $3,200 for every person in the state – two and a half times more in population-adjusted, inflation-adjusted terms.

Question: is this the fault of the taxpayers for not paying enough taxes or is it the fault of near-criminal mismanagement of California’s ample resources?

The fact is that the only thing that changed was public policy. And the good news is, that’s in our power to change back.

Here’s what happened: In 1974, Jerry Brown, known by his nickname, Moonbeam, brought to state government a radical and retrograde ideology that he called his “era of limits.” It amounted the naïve notion that if we stopped building things, people wouldn’t come. So we stopped building roads; we stopped building dams, we stopped building powerplants, we stopped building homes – and people came anyway.

This new age nonsense was accompanied by a far more sinister development, and that was the unionization and radicalization of California’s public employees. For the first time in our history, public employee unions were handed the power to force every public servant into their ranks to use government to extract from their pay unprecedented funds to fuel the political campaigns of their minions, to strike against the public interest, and in effect, to control both sides of the bargaining table.

The result has been the plundering of this state’s finances until – despite record revenues – despite a continuing and steady increase in the absolute size of government – despite the fact that government today is consuming a larger portion of your earnings than at anytime in its history, we can’t seem to scrape together enough money to build a decent road system or educate our kinds or protect our families from predators.

So the road back is not that complicated – from a public policy side. There’s no reason why we can’t have a balanced budget, lower taxes and a renewed commitment to public works, because that is EXACTLY what we had a generation ago.

So what do we do? The first thing we do is EVERYTHING WE CAN to support Governor Schwarzenegger’s initiatives. I believe they are the most important public policy initiatives since Proposition 13 – not just because of the policies they enact, but because they have become a defining struggle between the public employee unions and the people of California. If those unions can be confronted and defeated on these points, the state will be set for a series of constitutional reforms that will restore the Golden State that once was – and will be again.

FIRST: We have to de-fund the Left. The Left gets most of its money not from voluntary contributions, but from plundering the paychecks of every public servant in California. We’ve got to restore the freedom of our public servants to make their own decisions with their own paychecks.

SECOND: Restore the authority that the governor of this state had from 1939 until 1983 to make mid-year spending reductions whenever spending gets ahead of revenue. That’s Governor Schwarzenegger’s “Live Within Our Means Act,” and it empowers the Governor to stop the state’s deficit spending dead in its tracks.

THIRD: Get the redistricting power out of the hands of the Legislature. You’ve already heard from Ted Costa and Joel Fox on this subject.

The public employee unions know that if they are defeated on these points, they will have lost their grip on the government. And they also know that the stage will then be set for a sweeping period of government reform not known since the days of Hiram Johnson. Allow me to make these dozen modest proposals on the shape of those reforms:

FIRST: Restore the Gann Spending Limit that was state law from 1979 to 1990 – restraining the growth of state spending to the combination of inflation and population growth. If the Gann Spending Limit had simply been left alone, there never would have been a fiscal crisis.

SECOND: Illegal aliens cost the State of California between $5 billion and $10 billion each year in direct expenditures from the State’s treasury. The Left’s response is to give them driver’s licenses and, in San Francisco, the right to vote. A simple executive order needs to be issued by the governor to every department and law enforcement agency in California to report illegal aliens who are seeking state services to the Immigration and Naturalization Service for deportation.

THIRD: California’s prevailing wage regulations were re-written by the unions that in essence give them the power to set the wage rate on all public works projects. The governor’s appointees on the commission that promulgates these regulations should be instructed to conform the state’s prevailing wage regulations to the Federal Davis Bacon Act. That’s one billion dollars of additional roads, water projects and schools without a dime of additional expenditures.

FOURTH: A generation ago, state government focused on those projects that benefited all the people of California – the state highway system, the state water project, the state parks and universities. Local projects that exclusively benefited local communities were paid for exclusively with local revenue. Today, as political power has been centralized in Sacramento, the state budget has become a grab-bag for local pork projects, literally robbing Piedmont to pay Pasadena. We can restore local government independence by separating the revenues of state and local governments – and let local governments make their own decisions with their own money once again.

FIFTH: Despite improvements that were made last year, our Workers Compensation costs are still the highest in the nation. Meanwhile, next door Arizonans pay just once third the costs that we pay per $100 of personal income. What is so wrong with rescinding California’s Workers Compensation law that we know does not work and replacing it with Arizona’s that we know does work?

SIXTH: Today, the biggest pitch that the Nevada Economic Development Commission uses to lure California businesses is the cost of litigation in this state. Let me suggest two simple reforms: First, remove punitive damages from the civil courts – which were never designed to punish – and, second, adopt the English rule that the loser of a civil suit should compensate the prevailing party for the court costs that the loser caused. The singular result would be to restore the civil courts to their original purpose – to compensate one individual for losses caused by another. Period.

SEVENTH: Today we pay the highest electricity prices in the country, while a generation ago, there was serious discussion of doing away with electricity meters, because the stuff was becoming too cheap to bother to measure. In those days, we built hydroelectric plants that today generate power at a half-cent a kilowatt hour. At a half-cent a kilowatt hour, your average household electricity bill should come to roughly $30. PER YEAR. Our two nuclear powerplants are today producing 20% of the state’s power for 3 cents per kilowatt hour – or $16 per month for an average family. Isn’t it time we lifted the moratorium on the two cheapest and cleanest forms of electricity generation known to modern technology – and get on with the process of scrapping our electricity meters?

EIGHTH: Californians are spending $166 billion per year for health care. Now get out a calculator. That’s over $18,000 for every family in California – more than enough for a first rate health plan. The Left suggests putting our hospitals under the same management as the DMV. Here’s my suggestion: replace our entire healthcare bureaucracy with a simple pre-paid, refundable tax credit to bring within the reach of every California family a basic health plan of their choice.

NINTH: Californians pay the 4th highest tax per gallon of gasoline in the country. And yet we rank dead last in our per capita spending on highways. Here’s a radical idea: spend our highway money on our highways and our mass transit fares on our mass transit and let people decide for themselves what is the most efficient way to get to the office each day. And while we’re at it, sandblast the diamond lanes off our freeways – it is lunacy to close an entire lane of a freeway to 93% of the traffic, all in the name of efficiency.

TENTH: California is one of the few states in the country that provide lifetime welfare benefits to individuals who overstay their federal welfare reform act of 1996 – and save over $1 billion in direct welfare costs annually.

ELEVENTH: The governor this year has proposed spending over $10,000 per pupil from all sources on our public schools – that’s $300,000 for a classroom of 30 students. Perhaps a third of that is actually getting into the classroom. Here’s another radical notion: Let’s inject that money directly into the classroom and require each level of bureaucracy to justify how much they’re taking out of that classroom. Or, better still, restore to the parents the freedom to find the school that best meets their child’s needs.

TWELFTH: A union-sponsored provision of the state constitution requires us to use the bureaucracy to provide state services even when they can be obtained far more cheaply from the private sector. I have always preferred the “Yellow Pages” test for state services: If it is in the Yellow Pages, the state shouldn’t be doing it. By restoring to state government the freedom to shop around for the best service at the lowest price, we could save $9 billion across all departments, according to the Reason Foundation’s survey of state costs.

There are just a few of the reforms that have been proposed year in and year out in the state legislature – and that together would clearly restore that Golden Age of California that those of us who lived there remember so well. But how do we enact them when our Legislature is controlled by the lunatic Left acting at the Direction of the public employees unions?

The answers is that we do not enact them through the Legislature – we enact the around the Legislature. And that’s why the Governor needs the support of every citizen in this state who believes that California is worth fighting for. And I have no doubt that we will succeed in the end – because of what I learned during the recall election.

I discovered that there are moments in the life of a Democracy when people put aside their own pursuits and focus very intensely on the issues at hand. The recall was one of those rare elections when the people were totally completely focused on the future of California.

In those moments, advertising means nothing. Political parties mean less than nothing. News coverage means next to nothing. People actually listen to each of the candidates. They listen long and hard. And they form their own informed opinions.

And when they do that, their judgment is exceedingly good. In 2003, the result was the historic recall of a governor – in a record turnout election. In that election, the Republican candidates for governor received a combined 62 percent of the vote – literally two votes for every vote cast for the Democrats.

And – I might add – by the end of that campaign, according to every published poll from the Field to Gallup to the Los Angeles Times, the most conservative candidate (that was me, by the way) had the HIGHEST approval ratings and the most liberal candidate (Peter Camejo, of the Green Party) had the LOWEST approval ratings.

I don’t say this to brag (all right, I do), but also to illustrate that the people of California – when they are paying attention to the debate and actually listening to the candidates – agree with us in overwhelming numbers.

I used to fret about public apathy. That’s not apathy. That’s just the process of getting up in the morning and getting the kids to school and getting to work on time and picking up the dry cleaning – and all the other things we do to make our lives work. When things are going reasonably well – or even reasonably poorly – it doesn’t make a lot of sense to devote a great deal of time and attention to politics.

So, in normal times Democracies tend to drift because nobody pays much attention to what government is doing. In that vacuum, special interests tend to dominate the system and they start to plunder it. And as the damage accumulates, public attention begins to focus.

It is when a crisis approaches, that the true strength of a Democracy emerges – and it is an awesome thing. One by one, individual citizens sense the approach of a common danger and they rise to the occasion. One by one, people begin putting aside their daily cares and daily pleasures and begin to engage in their classic role as citizens – not because they want to, but because they have to – because the situation has become intolerable and can no longer be ignored.

We are watching that mobilization begin to sit today in California.

The ancient Athenians had a word for “citizen” that continues into modern usage today. The Athenians called a citizen a “politicos,” from which we get the word “politician.” In the Athenian view, when one accepted the rights and privileges of citizenship, one also assumed the responsibility of a politician.

Today, individual citizens are sensing that something is desperately wrong and one by one they are devoting their time and resources to setting things right.

And that process begins in groups like this, groups that gather not around politicians and not around parties, but around principles – solid principles – and the most solid principle of all – Freedom.

To that principle the American founders pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. How little is asked of our generation in support of that principle – no one is asked to risk their lives or their fortunes. But one thing history does demand of us in full – our sacred honor – not to fail or falter until we have restored to our children that Golden State – that land of opportunity – that California – that our parents gave to us.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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This speech was delivered on June 4, 2005 at the California Club for Growth Conference in LA. It was extremely well-received.
1 posted on 06/04/2005 5:50:02 PM PDT by calif_reaganite
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To: calif_reaganite

AWSOME !


2 posted on 06/04/2005 5:58:26 PM PDT by ncountylee
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To: calif_reaganite

>We have to de-fund the Left.<

good idea.


3 posted on 06/04/2005 6:01:52 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: calif_reaganite
Tom is urging conservatives to get behind the Governor because even if you think his proposals don't go as far as we would like, keep in mind the Democrats still view them as a deadly threat. And they are. De-funding the Left, giving the Governor the power to make mid-year spending adjustments and changing the way legislators are elected makes a difference. They may not seem like much but big things are built on small beginnings. As Tom says, the rest is commentary. We want a free society, our opposition must be cut down to size. That's why the Democrats oppose Arnold's initiatives not because they do too much or because as some conservatives think they do too little but the Democrats oppose them because they set the right tone for what follows. Namely, that the heyday of Big Government here is over. Do we still need it? By all means let's have that debate.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
4 posted on 06/04/2005 6:02:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calif_reaganite
"If that sounds too pat, let me ask you for a show of hands. How many of you have friends or neighbors who have left California in the last several years for the middle of the Nevada or Arizona deserts?

Now let me ask you this question: could any conceivable act of God make this beautiful state a less desirable place for people to live and work and raise their families than the middle of the Nevada Nuclear Test Range?

Only government could do that. And it has..."

BINGO
5 posted on 06/04/2005 6:05:42 PM PDT by decal (Where were YOU when AndyScam broke? Sluthering, perhaps?)
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To: calif_reaganite

Great thoughts from a truly great man


6 posted on 06/04/2005 6:16:40 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: calif_reaganite

He's got my vote.


7 posted on 06/04/2005 6:32:17 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor)
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To: calif_reaganite

McClintock 'gets it'.

I'm glad hes hammering on the public unions banding together and funding the Democrat party with many millions of dollars. For that reason alone any Republican in any position of poltiical power should limit the number of government employees wherever possible.

They are the main cancer on our republic right now imo.


8 posted on 06/04/2005 6:34:41 PM PDT by ran15
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To: AVNevis; B4Ranch; beebuster2000; BillyBoy; Bonaparte; BurbankKarl; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...

McClintock Ping

Let me know via freepmail if you want on or off this list.


9 posted on 06/04/2005 6:38:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calif_reaganite
Today, as political power has been centralized in Sacramento, the state budget has become a grab-bag for local pork projects, literally robbing Piedmont to pay Pasadena. We can restore local government independence by separating the revenues of state and local governments – and let local governments make their own decisions with their own money once again.

HOO YEAH!

10 posted on 06/04/2005 6:40:13 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: calif_reaganite

BUMP!


11 posted on 06/04/2005 6:48:44 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: ran15

Yep, you are so right about that!

This is an excellent speech by McClintock.


12 posted on 06/04/2005 6:50:41 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: calif_reaganite; ncountylee; ken21; decal; Nuc1; ran15; inquest; BIRDS

If any of you folks want on the 'McClintock Ping List,' freepmail me.


13 posted on 06/04/2005 6:59:32 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calif_reaganite
Now let me ask you this question: could any conceivable act of God make this beautiful state a less desirable place for people to live and work and raise their families than the middle of the Nevada Nuclear Test Range?

I guarantee you, it wasn't an act of God which drove millions of ex-Callifornians out of the state.

Earthquakes? Fires? Mudslides? Who cares about those?

He's right in the fact it was pure (evil) liberal government, and then some.

14 posted on 06/04/2005 6:59:58 PM PDT by kstewskis ("Lord, let me not be deceived..." ks)
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To: calif_reaganite

This pretty much the speech I heard Tom give to the Tax Payers League here in Eureka last month...


15 posted on 06/04/2005 7:02:48 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: calif_reaganite

Sustained applause! Thunderous ovation!


16 posted on 06/04/2005 7:09:38 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: calif_reaganite; Jim Robinson

'08 material? Great compendium of solutions. Makes me want to move back to CA and get busy.


17 posted on 06/04/2005 7:11:57 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 06/04/2005 7:15:19 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: calif_reaganite

Why does this man not run for President?


19 posted on 06/04/2005 7:29:11 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: calcowgirl; tubebender
It is when a crisis approaches, that the true strength of a Democracy emerges – and it is an awesome thing. One by one, individual citizens sense the approach of a common danger and they rise to the occasion. One by one, people begin putting aside their daily cares and daily pleasures and begin to engage in their classic role as citizens – not because they want to, but because they have to – because the situation has become intolerable and can no longer be ignored.

And that process begins in groups like this, groups that gather not around politicians and not around parties, but around principles – solid principles – and the most solid principle of all – Freedom.

Excellent points. Follows up his speach a few weeks back about how the mood is beginning to shift.

The liberals days are numbered - so are the rino's.... people are getting fed up with the corruption. The baby boomers idealism is not shared by many of us in generation X. Frankly, we are pretty fed up with their crap. State employees retiring with 80-90% salary is way over the line.

Just as the United Airline and steel industry folks got their pensions slashed, there will come a day when I and my children will vote to lower these pensions. Not as revenge, but as a necessity. It may not be tomorrow, but it most assuredly will happen.

20 posted on 06/04/2005 7:30:39 PM PDT by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: calcowgirl

McClintock bump!


21 posted on 06/04/2005 7:35:47 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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To: calif_reaganite

Tom McClintock is one of a kind.(SUPER)


22 posted on 06/04/2005 7:43:07 PM PDT by realman
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To: calif_reaganite

The new Ronald Reagan!


23 posted on 06/04/2005 7:43:17 PM PDT by Gritty ("The ACLU is the Taliban of American liberal secularism - Rees Lloy, former ACLU attorney)
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To: calcowgirl

I assume Tom writes his own speeches? Not only is he able to correctly assess a situation and propose a solution, he is gifted with the ability to convey his message. He is eloquent and inspiring.

I'm in awe of him.

;-)


24 posted on 06/04/2005 7:50:01 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: calcowgirl
I discovered that there are moments in the life of a Democracy when people put aside their own pursuits and focus very intensely on the issues at hand. The recall was one of those rare elections when the people were totally completely focused on the future of California.

He's right. nearly the entire state got behind this!

In those moments, advertising means nothing. Political parties mean less than nothing.

Exactly!

And when they do that, their judgment is exceedingly good. In 2003, the result was the historic recall of a governor – in a record turnout election. In that election, the Republican candidates for governor received a combined 62 percent of the vote – literally two votes for every vote cast for the Democrats.

2 to 1 in todays terms are overwhelming!

And – I might add – by the end of that campaign, according to every published poll from the Field to Gallup to the Los Angeles Times, the most conservative candidate (that was me, by the way) had the HIGHEST approval ratings and the most liberal candidate (Peter Camejo, of the Green Party) had the LOWEST approval ratings.

Good evidence that California can do it.

I don’t say this to brag (all right, I do), but also to illustrate that the people of California – when they are paying attention to the debate and actually listening to the candidates – agree with us in overwhelming numbers.

All his points in the article were right on the mark.

25 posted on 06/04/2005 7:56:31 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: calif_reaganite

Oddly, my envelope from Tom's campaign came today...need to write that check.


26 posted on 06/04/2005 7:56:34 PM PDT by Regulator (TOMBOT - now and forever)
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To: calcowgirl

BUMP!


27 posted on 06/04/2005 7:57:10 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: forester
Just as the United Airline and steel industry folks got their pensions slashed, there will come a day when I and my children will vote to lower these pensions.

Not only do away with king sized, public servant pensions, completely get rid of public unions. They are corrupt to the bone, and they are consuming the tax payers..

28 posted on 06/04/2005 7:59:42 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: calif_reaganite
"So what do we do? The first thing we do is EVERYTHING WE CAN to support Governor Schwarzenegger’s initiatives. I believe they are the most important public policy initiatives since Proposition 13 – not just because of the policies they enact, but because they have become a defining struggle between the public employee unions and the people of California"

Tom's a team player and he is right.

29 posted on 06/04/2005 8:07:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I don't know if this was posted yesterday.

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Senate Floor Speech in Opposition to SB 60 - Illegal Alien Driver Licenses
Senator Tom McClintock - June 2, 2005




Mr. President:



Let’s make one thing very clear from the outset. The new federal law DOES NOT require states to give driving-only driver’s licenses to foreign nationals illegally in this country. The new federal law DOES NOT in any way sanction states that do not give driving-only driver’s licenses to foreign nationals illegally in this country.



This bill does many other things that are NOT required by federal law:



California currently requires every applicant for a driver’s license to prove they are legally in this country. THIS BILL REPEALS THAT LAW.



California currently makes it a misdemeanor to assist an illegal alien in obtaining a driver’s license. THIS BILL REPEALS THAT LAW.



Not only are these provisions NOT required by federal law, they are a radical departure from state law.



So what is the point of this bill? California already recognizes a valid foreign driver’s license as proof of competence to operate a motor vehicle in this state. So it is not about training.



Automobile insurance is already available to any foreign national travelling in the United States. In fact, if I were to travel to Mexico as a foreign national, I would be subject to severe requirements for automobile insurance. If the author were really concerned about this issue, he would be proposing reciprocal requirements for Mexican nationals travelling in the United States.



So here is the fine point of it. The purpose of this measure and its predecessors is to make a very strong statement that it is the official policy of this state to ignore our nation’s immigration laws.



Those laws require a foreign national illegally in the United States to be deported. There is nothing radical or unusual about this. Every other nation in the world has immigration laws. The difference is that every other nation in the world enforces them.



By extending official state documents to illegal aliens, we are accommodating them in their violation of federal immigration law. We are adopting an official policy that this state will simply turn a blind eye to violations of those laws.



If it comes to that, we might as well repeal our immigration laws as meaningless vestiges of bygone days when this nation actually valued its sovereignty and independence.


30 posted on 06/04/2005 8:08:29 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: decal

Sorry I missed the speech, but it is kind of a long way to drive from here in Reno.


31 posted on 06/04/2005 8:11:36 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

>>I'm in awe of him.

He definitely stands out in a Sacramento crowd, doesn't he?
Actually, I think he stands out in any crowd.
He won me over a little over 2 years ago from his radio appearances.


32 posted on 06/04/2005 8:18:49 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; kellynla

Excellent! I hadn't seen that posted.


33 posted on 06/04/2005 8:21:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Eastbound
'08 material? Great compendium of solutions. Makes me want to move back to CA and get busy.

American's have honorably crossed this planet to make things right.Those that ran away from their duty were neither respected or wanted. Retreating in the face of problems, causes problems to spread. Fires left to burn, only spread.

34 posted on 06/04/2005 8:50:13 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: calcowgirl
If there's a special election, we're all going to have set aside our differences to defeat the public employees unions and the Democrats who live in dread of them. Yes, I know Arnold's a RINO and I think his reforms don't go as far as I would like but I also know the Democrats hate them because it would be the beginning of better and greater things to follow. Tom is proud to be counted in our Governor's company and the battle as been joined. Californians need to ask themselves if they want more of the Big Government status-quo. By which I mean politicians owned by unions as opposed to representing the public; budgets in which Sacramento spends more than it receives, and legislators who chose the voters to keep them in office. Hey, its been a wonderful racket for decades but we can no longer afford it. Now let's roll!!!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
35 posted on 06/04/2005 8:56:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ncountylee

"Awesome"


Yes he is .. and it proves to me I voted for the right person.


36 posted on 06/04/2005 9:19:57 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Black Tooth

That's what I was thinking !!!

He's young - let him be Lt Gov and then Gov and then he will be the ideal presidential candidate. Well principled and well seasoned in governing.


37 posted on 06/04/2005 9:28:04 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Regulator

Yeah, me too!!


38 posted on 06/04/2005 9:32:44 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: goldstategop

I'm beginning to feel the same way.

Arnold is not my favorite - but if we have to take a bunch of tiny steps to accomplish these goals .. they that's the way we'll do it. You're right .. it's time to put our differences aside and work for the good of CA.


39 posted on 06/04/2005 9:40:32 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: calcowgirl
Thanks for the ping.

Unlike many Republicans, Tom McClintock understands and believes in the tenets of the US Constitution and the agenda of the modern conservative movement in America today. Even after 40 years of Democrat liberalism and bureaucratic Republicanism, it's still possible to defend the people and limit government at the same time.

40 posted on 06/04/2005 10:58:17 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: CyberAnt
Agreed. Let's remember the Democrats have gotten us to where we today with a series of seemingly tiny incremental steps. They realize that we are seeking to reverse it a wee bit and they're hysterical. Liberals understand its not the magnitude of the change that's at issue; its the principle of change itself. Which is why they're seeking to thwart the special election and if they can't do it, they'll spend millions to defeat even purely symbolic measures because unlike our side, they appreciate that even symbols matter.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
41 posted on 06/05/2005 12:55:54 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Excellent analysis. Outstanding!


42 posted on 06/05/2005 1:08:36 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: calif_reaganite

Tom McClintock was my vote in the recall and if Tom McClintock will run for Lt. Gov, he has my vote again and will recieve my full attention of ground pounding, door knocking, phone calling fund raising & personal money support for his election campaign.


43 posted on 06/05/2005 1:32:29 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: calcowgirl


44 posted on 06/05/2005 3:10:20 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: calif_reaganite

Tom McClintock is absolutely wonderful. And he's right on his proposals. Bang! Bang! Bang!


45 posted on 06/05/2005 5:08:18 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia
I'm surprised no one's shown up on this thread to start bashing him, the way they used to in the past, simply because he didn't resign from the recall election. Guess those people have either learned their lesson, or have been put in their place.
46 posted on 06/05/2005 5:52:29 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Black Tooth
They are corrupt to the bone, and they are consuming the tax payers.

I agree.

47 posted on 06/05/2005 5:56:43 AM PDT by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: Black Tooth; calif_reaganite
Surprised this thread hasn't taken off like wild-fire. Lemme fan the flames a little: BTTT!
48 posted on 06/05/2005 6:11:55 AM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: inquest; calcowgirl
Guess those people have either learned their lesson, or have been put in their place.

I wonder how that happened?

49 posted on 06/05/2005 7:12:42 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: calcowgirl
THANK YOU.
(...Dutifully emailed just now to 30 or so 'close friends'.)
50 posted on 06/05/2005 6:37:51 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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