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Kathy forced off her Zimbabwe farm
Waterford News & Star ^ | June 3 | Jennifer Long

Posted on 06/05/2005 12:32:23 AM PDT by MRMEAN

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To: MRMEAN
“Sean is a supporter of Morgan Tsvangirai’s MDC; he’s for change…we all are. We were away when it happened; Sean was on the farm alone when he was attacked by a group of ten Zanu PF youth militia. He was severely beaten with a fanbelt from a car and then chains.” “When he told me over the phone, my immediate concern was whether or not he’d hit back. Because if he had, they would arrest him and have him thrown in jail for assault. Thankfully, he found the control to keep his hands down all the time.”

Good heavens.

21 posted on 06/05/2005 4:15:39 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: muir_redwoods

A compelling (and ultimately depressing) essay on Africa's condition/problems was posted on FR a few days ago. Sorry, can't recall the author, but he'd lived in Africa for some years, loved it, yet had come to the conclusion that their culture/attitude toward death fed into this horror. They relate to death when it happens to someone they know, otherwise, it's ignored. This was just one interesting point. There were others, but perhaps some other FReeper can come up with the link.


22 posted on 06/05/2005 4:22:20 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Clive

Let the savages starve. I have no compassion for these animals.


23 posted on 06/05/2005 4:35:43 AM PDT by jslade ("If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.")
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To: jocon307
"Why do people say the early Egyptians were black? Modern day Egyptians are Semites, they aren't black. I thought this was an "Afro-centric" myth. Is there any truth to it at all?"

People who claim that Eqypt was black need to explain why murals exist depicting light skinned Egytians and dark-skinned foreigners in the same scene. If Egyptials were black africans there would be no such distinction painted in the murals.

BTW, it seems likely too, that the ancient Egyptians had litle, genetically or ethnically in common with the current-day, semitic residents of Egypt.

24 posted on 06/05/2005 4:42:10 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: jslade
It is not the savages who are starving.
25 posted on 06/05/2005 4:48:30 AM PDT by Clive
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To: muir_redwoods

"BTW, it seems likely too, that the ancient Egyptians had litle, genetically or ethnically in common with the current-day, semitic residents of Egypt."

Well, what happened to the old Egyptians? I mean Cleopatra did live at the time of the Romans, so, what happened, where did they go? Were they just over run and bred out by Arabs?


26 posted on 06/05/2005 4:49:32 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307
"Well, what happened to the old Egyptians? I mean Cleopatra did live at the time of the Romans, so, what happened, where did they go? Were they just over run and bred out by Arabs?

Well, there was quite a dust-up in the whole region right around 622 A.D. if memory serves. The Arab ascendany, as part of the spread of islam, changed the political and ethnic make-up of much of what we call the mid-east

27 posted on 06/05/2005 5:03:17 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: MRMEAN; backhoe

Thanks.


28 posted on 06/05/2005 5:17:30 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Cindy; poobear; dandelion

And I do thank you all. Sometimes, all you can do is bear witness to events as they unfold.


29 posted on 06/05/2005 5:26:23 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: Myrddin
Did you see the story about Tony Blair on Drudge today? Blair is throwing in the towel on the EU. Now he says Africa is worth saving. He is preparing to throw the wealth of the UK into the corrupt pit that Africa has become. It must be nice to be a politician with the ability to confiscate money via taxation and present a magnanimous image of charity at no personal expense.

I'm still trying to get a grip on that one. Europe seemed hopeless, but they may draw back from the brink. Africa may have theoretical rewards, but until corruption, ignorance, and tribalism are addressed, it is not going to change.

30 posted on 06/05/2005 5:28:49 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: jslade

If you haven't seen "Hotel Rwanda" yet, maybe rent it and see it. It'll help you see that there are really decent, generous, thoughtful people in Africa, and that there are also racist, evil, selfish, violent people in Africa. Remember that Zimbabwe doesn't have a 2nd Amendment....


31 posted on 06/05/2005 5:48:55 AM PDT by Theo
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To: MRMEAN
The war against whites that has been raging in Zimbabwe for the past few years highlights the hypocritical racism of black leaders in the U. S. Where is the outrage at the treatment of whites by blacks in Africa?

BTW, the only places on Earth where slavery is still alive is in certain African nations.
32 posted on 06/05/2005 5:50:01 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

I would rather have him in charge than Mugabe. SA wasn't that bad under Mandela. It's hell under Mbeki. Just pray Mandela lives long enough.


33 posted on 06/05/2005 6:04:50 AM PDT by cyborg (I am ageless through the power of the Lord God.)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

That's not what our founding fathers thought!


34 posted on 06/05/2005 6:05:48 AM PDT by cyborg (I am ageless through the power of the Lord God.)
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To: jocon307; muir_redwoods

I don't have a problem with considering Egyptians black. It's living in a lot of the past for the people that embrace that line of thinking. I know people who are into 'kemetic history' and 'kemetic' this and that but don't care about what's going on in modern day Africa or America for that matter.


35 posted on 06/05/2005 6:09:04 AM PDT by cyborg (I am ageless through the power of the Lord God.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I have noticed the same with Nigeria. Nigeria could be a rich country, not only because of its natural wealth, but because of its people. I have worked with a number of engineers from that country. The only barriers that Nigeria needs to overcome are the corruption and the thugocracy. These are the things that drove out much of Nigeria's professionals (engineers, doctors, etc.). On the bright side the church is gaining strength there - the Anglican Church there is NOT the ECUSA!


36 posted on 06/05/2005 6:30:01 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (I live in Minnesota, I run a business in Minnesota, but I remain a TEXAN!)
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To: JOHANNES801

You're John Kerry, aren't you? LOL Just kidding!!!!


37 posted on 06/05/2005 7:00:51 AM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!)
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To: muir_redwoods
Africans are as bright as any people on earth.

What?
You've obviously never spent any time in Africa.

38 posted on 06/05/2005 7:17:23 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: rock58seg

Kerrys wife is from SA.


39 posted on 06/05/2005 7:18:15 AM PDT by JOHANNES801
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To: Bon mots

The only inference I can draw from your comment is racist in nature. Demonstrate to me that I have misunderstood you or would you care to clear up your comment with some factual support?


40 posted on 06/05/2005 7:23:18 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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