Skip to comments.Majority of states pressing for taxing all Internet sales
Posted on 06/05/2005 10:55:28 AM PDT by olde north church
DENVER - 9News has learned that 43 states have joined together in a coalition to collect sales tax on all Internet purchases.
You already pay sales tax when you go online to buy from an established business like Eddie Bauer or Wal-Mart. But a lot of small Internet businesses and individual transactions float under the radar.
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One does hope they have gentle winters.
Politicians are tax junkies. "Just one more tax, only one more tax...."
Okay, who's got the bat signal for the Sons of Liberty?
Typical politicians. Rather than restrain or reexamine their spending, just look for another vein to tap.
Nothing like having the government come in and kill a marketplace. I've done a good deal of my shopping via the internet due to the reduced prices, convienience and lack of TAXES.
Citizens for Limited Taxation up here in Massachusetts is fighting a bill related to internet sales taxes...I can just see the argument of the proponents..."it's for the chilllldrenn..." They can't honor the income tax rollback that voters passed in 1989, but will be more than happy to add a new sales tax. This with an estimated BILLION dollar surplus for the fiscal year.
They've gotta' be in the same trading zone, namely the one called USA, to escape the tax stuff. I'm just hopeing I can set up shop in a place with pleasant winters.
Government is on a death spiral. One reason for it is their inability to control their spending and our resulting taxation. Our days are numbered.
And we sure don't want to give small businesses the 5-8 percent margin they need to compete with Walmart, do we?
So if 50 states agree, and laws are passed to allow collection of the tax, doesn't this mean that all of the internet businesses will simply incorporate in Bermuda or Monaco or whatnot? These states have no clue about basic economics.
I believe that ol' Tree of Liberty is in serious need of feeding.
I've never understood the the pro-tax logic that the more we bludgeon the goose, the more golden eggs we get.
How does Colorado sound?
Colorado Governor Bill Owens says he doesn't like the idea and that Colorado won't be part of it.
Here's something you don't read everyday:
"We're getting lots of taxes in terms of income taxes and other taxes because of the rise of the Internet, we shouldn't tax sales over the Internet," said Owens.
It's not like the voters are teaching them otherwise.
Actually, they have managed to cut down domestic cigarette sales. The overseas operations don't have the same problem yet.
They've basically shut down cigarette sales in the US as well.
Fortunately people will still desire to improve their lot in life regardless of government idiocy. Any regime that stands in the way of this will eventually collapse.
my nephew who always got his from overseas says they are shut down. and when I tried to find some still working it was not easy to do. My nephew now goes to an Indian Reservation in Northwest PA to get his.
"Socialism has to work. We just haven't tried it with the world's resources yet." Text of a scream heard during electroshock therapy.
Actually they have a worse problem - the shipments are being seized when they hit american soil.
I'm surprised the media hasn't chimed in with how regressive sales takes are.
You haven't pinged SL yet?
Hasn't she been the one to warn folks about this for some time now?
(Of course, back then it was only about smokers; non smokers didn't care. They may now, though.
About the only place you can go these days to find a prime rooster is an Indian reservation.
(BTW, I was part of the "they" on that one ~ did you know that if you have a bunch of young chickens and you've not properly sexed them, and desexed the roosters, what will happen one days is you will wake up and have but one chicken left. Those little critters are nasty. They fight to the death.)
Yep, you can bet your boots that it is not the people who support the tax, just the pols.
Don't tax me. Don't tax thee. Tax that man behind the tree.
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."
- Ronald Reagan
wtf is wrong with people who want to tax every single point of a money transfer. They tax you for what you earn, they then tax you for spending it now they want to tax sales on the internet.
Along with a sales tax there is a companion tax called a "use tax". Thus if any item witch would be taxable in you state is purchased from an out of state source without tax the the use tax is applicable and at the current sales tax rate.
And I think the FEDS do not like being told what to do!!!! heh!
Congratulations to our United States Post Office for holding the line and respecting Federal law. Now, if our federal government would only stand up to the State Attorneys General too and defend our Constitutional rights.....
"Postal officials say that they are committed to fighting illegal activities conducted through the mail, but complain that their hands are tied. They note that Priority Mail, which officials say is most frequently used to ship cigarettes, cannot be inspected without a search warrant or the consent of either the sender or the recipient.
"Tobacco is a legal, mailable product," Mary Anne Gibbons, the Postal Service's general counsel, wrote last month in a response to the association of attorneys general. "It would be impracticable for postal acceptance clerks to make determinations on any given mailer's compliance with state excise or tax law or Jenkins Act filings."
5-31-05 - PORTLAND, Maine -- A federal judge has struck down portions of a Maine law designed to prevent youths from smoking.
U.S. District Judge D. Brock Hornby said that while Maine's statute is laudable and well-intentioned, it runs afoul of federal interstate commerce laws by impeding delivery services.
Maine's 2003 law requires procedures to verify that those who purchase tobacco by mail are old enough to do so. It was designed in part to prevent youths from ordering cigarettes online and also to assist the state in collecting taxes that would otherwise be unpaid.
Under the Maine law, the person to whom the tobacco products are addressed must be at least 18 years old and must sign for the package. If the buyer is under 27, a government-issued identification must be shown at the time of delivery.
After the law was enacted, United Parcel Service announced it would no longer make consumer tobacco deliveries in Maine because it would have to modify its procedures for one product. The New Hampshire and Massachusetts motor transport associations, and Vermont Truck and Bus Association, whose members include cargo carriers, sued.
In his 37-page ruling Friday, Hornby agreed that Maine's law forces UPS to vary from procedures it uses in its international delivery system, which can affect the prices of its service and interfere with the orderly flow of packages.
The judge agreed that states may regulate the delivery of contraband, but only if it does not "significantly affect a carrier's prices, routes or services."
Hornby noted in his ruling that he had denied a preliminary request to block enforcement of the state law, but "now I conclude that two of the three challenged state provisions cannot survive the broad pre-emptive language of the federal legislation" and two recent decisions by the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
The ruling traces federal pre-emption of interstate commerce to an 1887 law. While Congress has written into the law some areas that are exempt from federal pre-emption, the Maine Tobacco Delivery law "fits none of the exemptions," the judge wrote.
Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution for the United States of America prohibits taxation of interstate commerce.
- RONALD REAGAN
Don't forget the air we breathe...it blows across state lines, clearly interstate commerce...tax it!!!
There is another factor that needs to be made about Colorado. We have TABOR and it limits how much the government can spend regardless of tax receipts. So, in the good years, the internet tax would simply increase our rebates. The state wouldn't be allowed to keep it.
North Carolina already taxes internet sales. When one files his NC tax return, he is supposed to declare and pay a "use tax" on all internet purchases or telephone catalog purchases for which taxes were not charged by the vendor. I understand a number of other states also do this.
Wow! Now there's an idea that needs exposure to the light of day. Maybe if people ever understand that they are already taxed nine ways from Sunday they'll understand why no more taxes are needed.
No. Basically, our politicians are crooks. They are total low life, scum inferiors. Why we vote these crooks into office blows my mind.
Thanks so much!!!
No prob. I'm just wondering when the rude folks who invade our Puff Threads will chime in about this.
They probably won't.
"North Carolina already taxes internet sales. When one files his NC tax return, he is supposed to declare and pay a "use tax" on all internet purchases or telephone catalog purchases for which taxes were not charged by the vendor. I understand a number of other states also do this."
I believe I noted this on the Massachusetts tax forms (shocking, I know). I recall reading somewhere (FR?) that it is only a small percentage of filers who actually report this. Even the tax collectors understand that it is basically a voluntary act. The only way I could see this being a problem for someone who doesn't report the internet/catalog purchases is in an audit situation, but even then can they inquire into your actual purchases?
You have FReep mail!
My apologies - I've been really distracted with some other stuff today.
No Way on Taxes for the Internet.
These damn blood sucking politicians believe they can take your money and do a better job of spending it for you.
Just Say No But Hell No.
Interesting take on it agitator, however "junkiie" is a mite bit extreme donchya' think?
After all, while on the campaign trail, most politicians have stated that they won't touch that 45% I get to keep all for my own.
Junkies? Nah, just self absorbed, careless criminals with a twisted mindset as to how to maintain their power.
I think you may have been a little harsh in your depiction. ; )
The man had vision didn't he?
Now, however "if it's corrupt, save it" can be added to his well thought out agenda.