Posted on 06/06/2005 9:27:29 AM PDT by CHARLITE
Yes, the OAS speech laid things out pretty starkly. Every Freeper should listen to it or find a transcript. It's clear GWB's attitudes are formed mostly by his "good intentions" and south-of-the-border in-laws and not the law.
Say what you will about the EU, but at least the Eurocrats allowed the people to vote on their sovereignty and future. It seems pretty clear to me American citizens will not be allowed a similar vote on the illegal dissolution of our own borders. The borders in Korea and Iraq seem far more important to the elitists and this administration than our own.
I'm very glad that he was our President on 9/11 but he's gone downhill since then.
If you find the transcript, could you ping me, please? I'll keep looking.
It is best when fox hunting to have a hand full of rocks to throw in the opposite direction you want the fox to run. Now that the fox is running in the open much easier to have an open shot.
already here. see my Zimmerman Telegram post above.
For at least 2 decades before the Zimmerman Telegram, an "infrastructure" for such a scenario had been put in place in Northern Mexico by having many many Germans relocate there. Rommel went there to learn desert warfare from Pancho Villa.
Interesting. Thanks.
The Mexican War of 1846 to 1848 was a lopsided American victory ON MOST ASPECTS. Zach Taylor's and Winfield Scott's armies thrashed the Ejercito Permanente everyplace from Contreras to Churubusco to Chapultepec. The Mexicans turned to guerilla action, and when the US Army (regulars and volunteers) weren't able to handle the guerillas (no special warfare skills in those days), Los Diablos Tejanos....the Texas Rangers....were brought in to pacify the rear areas, which they did extremely well.
Generally since 1848 relations with Mexico have been strained in one way or another. In the decades following the Mexican War, Mexico became a haven for cattle thieves, bank and train robbers and criminals of various other stripes....both Mexicans who struck into the US (such as Augustine Chacon), and Americans who stole from both sides (the Clantons, as an example). Although we have an extradition treaty with Mexico, the Mexican government fails to abide by it. We've had to deal with drug runners, coyotes who smuggle illegals, terrorists and other assorted scum coming up from Mexico. In 1916, one of their frequent governmental instabilities spilled over into Columbus, NM when Pancho Villa raided the US border. It's not improbable for something similar to happen again.
What Mexico fails to realize is this: The US was brutally attacked on 9/11/01, and the American people won't stand for it again, even if our elected officials are acting like a bunch of clueless baboons. If Mexico acts in an overtly hostile manner (unlikely), even the Wuss-in-Chief from Midland will have to act against his bueno amigo, Senor Presidente Fox. As it is, Mexico is acting in a hostile manner that is not as violently overt, and the Midland Mouse is just standing there and taking it as though nothing were happening.
The time is long since past to militarize the border, and begin rounding up and shipping out illegals. This is NOT anti-Hispanic, nor is it anti-immigrant. Hispanics who came here legally are just as offended as native born Americans at the way the border is being violated. The Hispanics I know who came legally view the illegals as pests and criminals who are ruining a country that the legals want to make a home in. But, I guess in the eyes of the left a legal isn't sufficiently Hispanic to count.....
If the federal government won't do something about the border, it does fall to the people to pick up the slack. The Texas legislators who are angry at the Minutemen are all traitors, and should be unelected next time around. When a cowpuncher has to strap on a pistol again so he can defend himself against dope smugglers and illegals just to check fence....that's when the border is in chaos, and needs to be secured.
This time around, when you vote, make sure the politicians put their money where their mouths are. If they fail to act, or act improperly, organize a recall and SEND THEM HOME! This country is far too precious to be left in the care of people who can't spot a threat when it's right under their noses!
Have to believe the narco trafficers would give more of a scrum.
The narcotrafficantes have a more serious purpose, and accordingly, use more draconian measures both to enforce discipline and instill loyalty, if only the sort of loyalty that can be bought and sold.
Remember that many of the senior officers of the underpaid Mexican Army are deditos [little fingers] in the pay of the cartels, and that by keeping their troops drunk, well-fed and out of the way at certain key times, are rendering aservice for their masters.
While you were watching that display of something less than Mexican military prowness, I wonder what was going on elsewhere....
They know well that we were also attacked on 3/9/1916. And what followed.
"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."--Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985
I like the comparison about the imported cows...makes sense.
Why is it the Feds have a mandatory 10 for armed robbery but not even a mandatory 5 for illegal immigration?
I did mention the Villa Raid against Columbus, NM. Thanks for the link and the additional info.....great source!
Bush and company are working the old frog in the pot of cold water trick. Let reality take its course, illegals flooding the country, then after twenty million arrive, say, golly it's too late to send them back. Here's a better idea -- let's improve the standard of living for the entire western hemisphere. You liked one Europe? You'll love one happy hemisphere. Same deal. Free trade, free travel, capitalism and hopefully democracy the rising tide that lifts all boats. Bush hinted at this in a speech this morning. The speech was a two-by-four to the head. He mentioned many 'immigrants' from Mexico and Central America living and working happily in the US. He said this twice in case lamebrains weren't paying attention. 'Illegals' wasn't mentioned.
Holy moly HR!!!! Sheeeeeeeeese! Thanks very much for the link... This is just amazing..
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I heard it. He is violating his oath. I would support impeachment.
Nobody wants to be racist, but the law is the law. Newt Gingrich on Rush two weeks ago, came up with a practical, workable solution. This has to be done. We send them back with a promise they can enter the US legally with a green card and thumbprint so we can track them...and they have to have a job. We'd work out equitable back and forth stuff, how many times a year they could go home, etc.. They'd have to learn English and abide by our laws. If they broke the law, they'd be deported. No fooling around. Borders secured professionally, immediately, including sea coasts. Terrorism being the other side of this problem.
WHEN in the Course of human Events,
it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation. WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great- Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World . . . They have taxed us far more than the colonialist were taxed. Sure we have representatation. But so many nincompoop socialist keep voting the same losers in and they keep enacting more, and worse tax laws.
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