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In "Greatest American" Contest, Lauer Trumpets Clinton's Success (Cast Your Vote!)
MRC ^ | Monday June 6, 2005 | BrentBaker

Posted on 06/06/2005 11:13:29 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay

In summarizing the lives of the 25 finalists in the Discovery Channel's "Greatest American" contest, NBC's Matt Lauer on Sunday night labeled Bill Clinton as "brilliant" before trumpeting: "Under Clinton the economy boomed -- deficits turned into surplus -- and more than 22 million jobs were created. Along with the character flaws and the subpoenas came peace and prosperity." The brief segment did not feature any explicit criticisms of Clinton's presidency, but when it came to George W. Bush, whom Lauer described as "our tough-talking, language-mangling Commander-in-Chief who most Americans just want to hang our with," Discovery put on musician "Moby," who declared over flag-draped coffins: "From my perspective, you cannot call yourself a Christian, talk about the sanctity of life, and then support the death penalty, and support a war."

To launch its series of Sunday night shows in which the public can vote to select the "greatest American," Discovery on Sunday night aired a three-hour program (8-11pm EDT) hosted by Lauer. For the first two hours, Lauer ran through those ranked from #100 down to #26 as nominated by AOL members over the past few weeks. Amongst those in the bottom 75, some ridiculous nominations, including Phil McGraw, Michael Jackson, Madonna and Tom Cruise. Micheal Moore made it too, a couple of spots ahead of Rush Limbaugh who came in at #59. Lauer asserted: "His ultra-conservative show has transformed talk radio into a powerful political force."

Discovery devoted the third and final hour to the top 25, for whom the public can now vote -- via phone, text messaging or AOL's Web site -- in the "Greatest American" short-run series on Discovery over the next few weeks (two-hours this Sunday, an hour each on the next two Sunday nights.)

In addition to Bush and Clinton, the final 25, as presented by Lauer in alphabetical order:

Muhammad Ali Lance Armstrong Neil Armstrong Walt Disney Thomas Edison Albert Einstein Henry Ford Benjamin Franlkin Bill Gates Bill Graham Bob Hope Thomas Jefferson John Kennedy Martin Luther King Abraham Lincoln Rosa Parks Elvis Presley Ronald Reagan Eleanor Roosevelt Franklin Roosevelt George Washington Oprah Winfrey Wright Brothers

Discovery's format interwove narration from Lauer with clips or pictures of the subject and with comments from a variety of public figures. In the top 25, each person got about 90 seconds.

For George W. Bush, his segment began with a clip of him at Ground Zero in 2001: "And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon."
Lauer: "He's our tough-talking-"
Bush: "And you're working hard to put food on your family."
Lauer: "-language-mangling Commander-in-Chief who most Americans just want to hang out with."
Tom Brokaw: "People look at George Bush and however else they may feel about him, they think, 'you know, that's probably a guy I'd like to have a beer with.'"
Ann Curry on Today, December 2001: "The U.S. Supreme Court effectively handed George W. Bush the presidency last night."
Lauer: "After conquering dangling chads in 2000, George Bush took over the family business. And like father like son tied his political fortunes to Iraq."
Senator John McCain: "If the people of Iraq are able to achieve a free and democratic society, history will show that those young Americans died in the service of a noble cause."
Moby, musician, over shot of flag-draped coffins: "From my perspective, you cannot call yourself a Christian, talk about the sanctity of life, and then support the death penalty, and support a war."
Bush: "Even though we haven't found the stockpiles of weapons, we thought were there, I still would have made the same decision."
Rudy Giuliani: "Sometimes events force greatness or the lack of it, and in his particular case, it showed greatness. And I think that is gonna give President Bush a very important place in our history."

On Clinton, Lauer began with: "Brilliant."
Clinton before Congress: "Let this Congress be the Congress that finally balances the budget."
Lauer: "Skilled and surprisingly self-destructive."
Clinton: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
Howie Mandel, comedian: "It's not sex!"
Wendy Williams, syndicated radio personality: "It was sex, Bill."
Clinton: "It depends upon what the meaning of the word is."
Lauer: "Despite the scandals and investigations, Bill Clinton was an incredibly popular President who connected with the American people."
Clinton: "The best is yet to come. The best days of America."
Howie Mandel: "Phenomenal politician, phenomenal speaker."
Clinton: "Thank you and God bless you all."
Tiki Barber, New York Giants: "He could talk on any level to anyone and make them feel comfortable."
Lauer: "Under Clinton the economy boomed -- deficits turned into surplus -- and more than 22 million jobs were created. Along with the character flaws and the subpoenas came peace and prosperity."
Jesse Jackson: "He was a good President and the facts speak for themselves."
Unidentified woman: "I do think that he's one of the smartest Americans. The things he wanted to do for our country were positive."
Brokaw: "My guess is that he'll be judged as an exceptionally skilled politician with some grave personal flaws."

For the Web site for the show, where you can cast your vote or watch the brief biographies of each nominee:
greatestamericantv.channel.aol.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aol; bush; clinton; contest; discoverychannel; greatestamerican; mattlauer; mediabias; moby; mrc; nbc
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1 posted on 06/06/2005 11:13:31 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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Voting starts June 19th..(little incidental information that flew up at me as I went to vote to save you some time)


2 posted on 06/06/2005 11:15:58 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Lauer: "Under Clinton the economy boomed -- deficits turned into surplus -- and more than 22 million jobs were created. Along with the character flaws and the subpoenas came peace and prosperity."

WTC-1993
USS Cole
Somalia (Getting serviced while our brave D's are fighting off attack waves).

Lauer is an imbecile


3 posted on 06/06/2005 11:16:55 AM PDT by sully777 (If anyone asks, I'm a monger-monger.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

The list doesn't include many people of importance, just celebrity. It does have RR, but does anybody think that a boxer, a singer, or a female talk show hostess, should even be considered, no matter how good...?


4 posted on 06/06/2005 11:18:41 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: sully777

You forgot Oklahoma City and Waco here, plus Somalia and Kossovo too!


5 posted on 06/06/2005 11:19:23 AM PDT by whodat57
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To: fight_truth_decay

On June 6th, the Greatest American is 9000 at Normandy.


6 posted on 06/06/2005 11:19:41 AM PDT by BIGZ
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To: fight_truth_decay

Barf Alert--Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey and John F. Kennedy made the list. Yuck!


7 posted on 06/06/2005 11:20:10 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: fight_truth_decay
"Under Clinton the economy boomed -- deficits turned into surplus -- and more than 22 million jobs were created. Along with the character flaws and the subpoenas came peace and prosperity."

Matt Lauer has the integrity of a Washington state election. The deficits turned to surpluses because the Republians took control of Congress in 1995. And under the guise of "peace," the worst attack on America was being planned, while Clinton did nothing.

8 posted on 06/06/2005 11:20:52 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: pageonetoo

Bill Clinton got 42 and 49 percent of the vote for president; never a majority. How do you call that "incredibly popular". I looked at the description of Reagan on this idiot's website: he's described as the oldest president, author of Reagonomics and a union president. Not a word about smashing world communism and the Soviet Union. Sick, but it comes from a channel that has minimal viewership and a failing host in Matt Lauer.


9 posted on 06/06/2005 11:21:39 AM PDT by laconic
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To: fight_truth_decay
Stupid list. Stupid show. It was very blatant:

Hillary has "tremendous accomplishments" (no need to mention any)
Hillary is one of the most "effective sentors" (no need to list legislation)
Hillary is "brilliant" (no evidence required)

Bush? Well, let's lead off with a quote that shows what kind of an idiot we're dealing with, OK?

10 posted on 06/06/2005 11:21:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: fight_truth_decay
Actually, you can vote now, but for some reason they say it starts on the 19th, for the top 5...

When you highlight a person, it asks for vote, or get info...

VOTE HERE

12 posted on 06/06/2005 11:23:32 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: fight_truth_decay

There's two GWs on there. Can I get confused if my GW doesn't win and claim the ballot was too hard to understand?


13 posted on 06/06/2005 11:24:45 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: pageonetoo
Choices were via AOL.

To only say President Bush "is someone you would want to have a beer with" as strong point of a nominee is beyond the rediculous.

The contest is boring! Lauer is boring too..now I think about it. :(

14 posted on 06/06/2005 11:28:15 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

well here's one thing Clinton got right. Regarding the end of his presidency...

Clinton: "The best is yet to come. The best days of America."


15 posted on 06/06/2005 11:28:37 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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To: sully777

YOU LEFT OUT A WAR OR TWO...

Iraq, the cold war version with bombing missions, etc.

KOSOVO... and where else in Yugoslavia was it?



Lauer: "Under Clinton the economy boomed -- deficits turned into surplus -- and more than 22 million jobs were created. Along with the character flaws and the subpoenas came peace and prosperity."

WTC-1993
USS Cole
Somalia (Getting serviced while our brave D's are fighting off attack waves).

Lauer is an imbecile


16 posted on 06/06/2005 11:29:19 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: sully777
Lauer is an imbecile

This whole concept is imbicilic. What is the purpose of running "American Idol" for historical figures? Anybody who could put Bill Clinton and George Washington in the same league is just beyond stupid, but there are a lot of stupid people out there.

Maybe as a measurement of how stupid people are, it may have some utility. But I don't think that is what people will get out of this one-handed exersize.

17 posted on 06/06/2005 11:29:55 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: pageonetoo

OH! I was confused. Thanks.


18 posted on 06/06/2005 11:30:36 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: ClearCase_guy


Stupid list. Stupid show. It was very blatant:
Hillary has "tremendous accomplishments" (no need to mention any)
Hillary is one of the most "effective sentors" (no need to list legislation)
Hillary is "brilliant" (no evidence required)

Bush? Well, let's lead off with a quote that shows what kind of an idiot we're dealing with, OK?
Facts? Libs don't need no stinkin' facts...


19 posted on 06/06/2005 11:31:16 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Don Imus once referred to the Discovery Channell as a place where "freaks can watch bugs having sex"..I wish it were true..


20 posted on 06/06/2005 11:31:23 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: pageonetoo

My mistake was I pushed in the wrong section of that box.

The bugs are now out, so if anyone is inclined to vote learn from my mistakes.


21 posted on 06/06/2005 11:34:13 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

this kind of programming just degrades American History and the great characters and stories contained within.
The idea that two current Presidents are in the Top 25 just reinforce the idea this this is short-attention span programming.
Nathan Hale? nope.
Patrick Heny? hah..
John Jay? who?...
sad.


22 posted on 06/06/2005 11:34:30 AM PDT by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: gridlock


Well...the public education system is teaching "agenda driven" history...so, yeah, I think the lefty whack jobs or using this as a measurement to see if their goal of dumbing down the masses is working.

It's a bench mark alright.

Not only do we in this country need to bring the MSM to justice but the public education system as well. It's a two pronged attack by the lefties to ensure they have a generation guillible enough to believe their tin foil hat conspiracies and spew their tripe.


23 posted on 06/06/2005 11:35:51 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: ken5050
However, I have been watching the new Military Channel periodically... http://military.discovery.com/
24 posted on 06/06/2005 11:36:44 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Clinton just waved his magic wand and created all these jobs. No mention of Republican led Welfare reform or all the dot-com jobs. I could have been President and the economy would have boomed during this time. The biggest technological advance of all time happens. Everyone is buying a computer, getting Internet access, buying software, etc. What did Bill Clinton do to create this? Raise taxes on the rich?


25 posted on 06/06/2005 11:40:33 AM PDT by NotSoFreeStater
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To: fight_truth_decay

And looking beyond the top 25, we come accross the name of Barack Obama as one of the top 100.
What, exactly, has he done?
He's been a Senator for all of 5 months and he's one of the top 100 Americans of all time?
Of all the Senators that have served during the last 200+ years and they come up with Barack Obama...this should be an insult even to Democrats.


26 posted on 06/06/2005 11:42:55 AM PDT by threeleftsmakearight
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To: fight_truth_decay
The answer is:

William Katt. Cast your votes now.
27 posted on 06/06/2005 11:48:36 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "LOL!!!" -- MikeinIraq; "Bravo" -- EODTIM69)
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To: fight_truth_decay

You have to hand it to leftists, they repeat things often enough and they become fact...such as the "22 million jobs created" nonsense.
If 22 million jobs were created, the unemployment rate would have dropped to below zero. Do the math; during the Clinton years, there were about 150 million eleigible workers. At 6% unemployment, that would leave 9 million out of work, if 22 million jobs were created, the unemployment rate would have been something like -13%.


28 posted on 06/06/2005 11:49:23 AM PDT by threeleftsmakearight
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To: sully777

Oh yeah, the economy boomed. Just as soon as he managed to loose the House for Democrats for the first time in 40 years and it became clear that his health care reform and tax and spend plans were toast.


29 posted on 06/06/2005 11:51:10 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: fight_truth_decay; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Sam's Army; TheBigB
Please join me in continuing to vote for whom we all know is the truly greatest American - Cassius Clay.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

30 posted on 06/06/2005 11:54:47 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: pageonetoo

The Gipper just got all three of my votes.


31 posted on 06/06/2005 11:56:20 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (<a HREF="http://www.democraticunderground.com">Fruits and Nuts</a>)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Peace?

My god domestic terrorist attacks began under Clinton!

MATT LAUER IS A LIAR!!!


32 posted on 06/06/2005 12:05:18 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: gridlock
Lauer is an imbecile This whole concept is imbicilic.

Imbecile's do less damage to this Republic than the likes of Lauer and his ilk. You are correct. This show is a total waste of time. You must want to waste your time to spend one second looking at this leftist garbage.

33 posted on 06/06/2005 12:17:40 PM PDT by liberty2004
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To: fight_truth_decay

Bush, Clinton - in this case it doesn't matter in my opinion.
If George Washington isn't voted number one on this thing than it is a crime. Without him we wouldn't even be having a discussion about who the greatest American was since there would be no America.


34 posted on 06/06/2005 12:18:40 PM PDT by frankiep
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To: fight_truth_decay

Did anyone mention The Discovery Channel was owned by the New York Times? Probably not.


35 posted on 06/06/2005 12:21:01 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Easy call: George Washington
36 posted on 06/06/2005 12:23:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: sully777
Guess Clinton's terror bombing of the Serbians falls under the category of "peace".

As far as the economy, Clinton didn't have much to do with that. Closest he came was his tax increases which led to the 2000 recession.
37 posted on 06/06/2005 12:25:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: My2Cents

Oh come on...he really is so stupid he peddalled the lie of "he turned deficits into surpluses"? What a moron.

I won't waste any cyberspace refuting that with facts. We all know it's blatantly not true.


38 posted on 06/06/2005 12:26:59 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Compassion is a great thing. Just quit making me pay for YOURS with MY money!!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Hillary has "tremendous accomplishments" (no need to mention any)

Hillary is one of the most "effective sentors" (no need to list legislation)

Hillary is "brilliant" (no evidence required)

You are quite cynical. Would you at least agree that she has, at times, worn a crusty black pantsuit?

39 posted on 06/06/2005 12:29:16 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Stentor

She wears a crusty black pantsuit like no other.


40 posted on 06/06/2005 12:30:42 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Owl_Eagle
Please join me in continuing to vote for whom we all know is the truly greatest American - Cassius Clay.-owl

The Thoughts of Muhammad Ali in Exile (JAIL), c. 1967

..."I never thought of myself as great when I refused to go into the Army. All I did was stand up for what I believed. There were people who thought the war in Vietnam was right. And those people, if they went to war, acted just as brave as I did. There were people who tried to put me in jail. Some of them were hypocrites, but others did what they thought was proper and I can't condemn them for following their conscience either. People say I made a sacrifice, risking jail and my whole career. But God told Abraham to kill his son and Abraham was willing to do it, so why shouldn't I follow what I believed? Standing up for my religion made me happy; it wasn't a sacrifice. When people got drafted and sent to Vietnam and didn't understand what the killing was about and came home with one leg and couldn't get jobs, that was a sacrifice. But I believed in what I was doing, so no matter what the government did to me, it wasn't a loss.

At least he had some proper perspective... but I wouldn't waste my vote on any entertainer...

41 posted on 06/06/2005 12:31:08 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: BenLurkin

The first "W" got my vote.


42 posted on 06/06/2005 12:35:17 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Fledermaus

If Clinton was so popular with the American people, how come he never won the majority of the vote? How come his party lost control of the House of Representatives for the first time in forty years?

Yeah, the 90's were peachy keen: Investors throwing wads of cash at twenty-six year old CEO's running dot.com empires. And just beneath the surface, corporate scandals, and a terrorist build up.


43 posted on 06/06/2005 12:35:56 PM PDT by GeorgiaMike
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To: BenLurkin

I agree: without George Washington, we wouldn't have a United States of America.


44 posted on 06/06/2005 12:36:09 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: pageonetoo

Says one can vote three times a week. Clearly, this site is run by Democrats.


45 posted on 06/06/2005 12:37:17 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: BenLurkin

Well, they let me vote thrice, so George Washington, Ben Franklin, and Ronald Reagan got my votes. What Dubya does in the next 3 1/2 years will determine whether or not he belongs next to them.

It is a pretty silly list, though. Eleanor Roosevelt must be in there so that they can include the Witch next time they try this. And I love Elvis, but come on! Kudos to Lance Armstrong for beating cancer and all that, but Greatest American?! As for Clinton, it must have been mandated in the contract that he finish in the top 25 before Lauer would host the show.


46 posted on 06/06/2005 12:44:21 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (I don't hate anybody, except the French....)
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To: fight_truth_decay

I saw the promo's for this show and could only chuckle, and make a mental note to avoid it all all costs. I figured Lauer's list would most likely include Peewee Herman and Hunter S. Thompson, if he were honest, that is. Even when the media tries to compliment GWB or the Gipper, it comes off as pure begrudging hypocrisy. Barf.


47 posted on 06/06/2005 12:46:54 PM PDT by Spok
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To: pageonetoo

The Reagan bio leaves off the fact that he led America to victory in the Cold War. You'd think that would qualify as a "major accomplishment" (more than jelly beans!)


48 posted on 06/06/2005 12:51:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin
The Reagan bio leaves off the fact that he led America to victory in the Cold War. You'd think that would qualify as a "major accomplishment" (more than jelly beans!)


49 posted on 06/06/2005 1:12:33 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: AmishDude

LOL
Man I loved that show


50 posted on 06/06/2005 1:12:33 PM PDT by pandemoniumreigns
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