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Dean doesn't speak for whole party, some Democrats say - (losing traction even with his own party!)
BOSTON GLOBE.COM ^ | JUNE 6, 2005 | A/P

Posted on 06/06/2005 3:19:27 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Dean has said Republicans never made an honest living in their lives and House majority leader Tom DeLay ought to go back to Houston where he can serve his jail sentence. DeLay has not been accused of any crime.

Dean ''doesn't speak for me with that kind of rhetoric, and I don't think he speaks for the majority of Democrats," Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said yesterday on ABC's ''This Week."

While discussing the hardship of working Americans standing in long lines to vote, Dean said Thursday, ''Republicans, I guess, can do that because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives." Dean said later his comments did not refer to hard-working Americans, but rather to the failure of Republican leadership to address working-class concerns.

Responding to Dean's initial remark, Edwards said Dean ''is not the spokesman for the party."

Dean is ''a voice. I don't agree with it," Edwards, a former senator and the Democrats' vice-presidential nominee in 2004, said Saturday at a party fund-raising dinner in Nashville. Edwards has not decided whether to seek the nomination in 2008.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: antirepublican; chairman; chairmandean; criticisms; democrat; dnc; harsh; howarddean; johnedwards; josephbiden; leadership; rhetoric

1 posted on 06/06/2005 3:19:28 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

This is extremely depressing news. Dean seems to be on the verge of being fired, which would be a great tragedy for the Republican Party.


2 posted on 06/06/2005 3:22:03 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

It was all part of the plan. Hillary from stage right to the rescue, dontchaknow.


3 posted on 06/06/2005 3:24:13 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: FormerACLUmember

If Dean gets fired, his ego will require him to join the Greens... and he'll take all his MOVEON.ORG lemmings with him.


4 posted on 06/06/2005 3:24:45 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: FormerACLUmember


does that make Howie a DINO? Yabba Dabba don't think so...


5 posted on 06/06/2005 3:24:50 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: CasearianDaoist
It was all part of the plan. Hillary from stage right to the rescue.

I agree.

6 posted on 06/06/2005 3:31:16 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
How so?

Who would step up to the plate that would be dangerous for the Republican Party?

The sad part is that Dean is so much more helpful to the GOP because of his craziness. LOL
7 posted on 06/06/2005 3:31:25 PM PDT by Kitanis
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To: CHARLITE

8 posted on 06/06/2005 3:32:27 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: CHARLITE
The Democrat party is its own worst enemy. They are utterly destroying themselves. Not only have they adopted issues that simply do not resonate with the greater populace, they have decided to move even further to the Left. And not only that but they continuously mock the religious (particularly Christians ....actually only Christians), jest at the people who live in Red States, and pander towards issues that are basically akin to quasi-socialism/communism in the belief that doing so makes them the 'party of the people.'

LOL. And they think that such actions are going to win over the average voter!

Let me put it this way ....they will be ranting and raving over 'stolen elections' for the next 2 decades because they WILL continue losing elections. And not because they are 'stolen' but because they are so darn STUPID that they push away the very voters they need to win anything. And if they continue down the same route they will become extinct as a viable party in 3 decades. And aactually I'd say they are already obsolete! After all what else do they do apart from saying 'no' to anything and everything that we bring forward. I cannot think of one positive idea they have come with, they only have a lot of negative statements without offering viable alternatives.

And if they best they can do is a limp-wristed-wimp like Kerry, a foot-in-mouth loony like Dean, a skeleton-in-the-closet-rife Hillary et al then it just shows that they are truly in dire straits. In the next few decades they may very well join the Whigs in the annals of history.

9 posted on 06/06/2005 3:32:53 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: CHARLITE
Edwards said Dean ''is not the spokesman for the party."

The spokesman for the party is not the spokesman for the party?

10 posted on 06/06/2005 3:32:55 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Kitanis

I absolutely love Dean. Every time he opens his evil, hateful mouth, one thousand new Republicans are born.


11 posted on 06/06/2005 3:33:55 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: spetznaz

they best = the best


12 posted on 06/06/2005 3:34:34 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: CHARLITE

Yes, he DOES speak for the Party (and members therein) as their Chairman. Yes, a Bolton confirmation is a win Biden. And YES it was a filibuster when the Dems prevented a vote on Bolton.

Random points but the Dems seem to believe saying something makes it true.

IF they didn't want Dean as Chairman representing them they would seek his removal. They have not. The only reason they are speaking now is because Dean crossed a line by dragging low income & average income families into this fight by suggesting they've never known an honest days work. The Dems know he stepped in it with that comment, so this is CYA time. If they were truly offended it would be more than a few critical words. They'd have his head.


13 posted on 06/06/2005 3:36:17 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: CHARLITE
I'm gonna miss ya, Howie.

(steely)

14 posted on 06/06/2005 3:37:18 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: lowbridge

It's OK logic for the "emotional ones".


15 posted on 06/06/2005 3:40:28 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: CHARLITE

Dean does speak for all Democrats, he is their party chairman.


16 posted on 06/06/2005 3:41:58 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: spetznaz
And if they continue down the same route they will become extinct as a viable party in 3 decades.

It's been 1976 since they won a majority in a presidential election and that one was close.

17 posted on 06/06/2005 3:46:58 PM PDT by fso301
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To: FormerACLUmember

That's what I was thinking.

Dean for Chairman for life!!!!


18 posted on 06/06/2005 3:47:16 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: FormerACLUmember

Howie peaking too soon again, alas.


19 posted on 06/06/2005 3:47:38 PM PDT by hershey
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To: CasearianDaoist

Fox says that Hill echoed some of Dean's comments about republicans this afternoon. She gave a speech somewhere, but I haven't heard details yet.


20 posted on 06/06/2005 3:50:57 PM PDT by hershey
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To: FormerACLUmember

I agree, I had hoped they would keep the screaming idiot around for a while.


21 posted on 06/06/2005 3:52:06 PM PDT by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: Kitanis

"Responding to Dean's initial remark, Edwards said Dean "is not the spokesman for the party." "

Well then, who is? Reid? Pelosi, BFT, Kerry, the clintons?

(Phth! I need to wash my fingers now from having typed the names in the last graph.)


22 posted on 06/06/2005 3:53:56 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: CHARLITE
Well, if DNC Chairman Dean isn’t spokesman for the Democrat Party, who is he the spokesman for?


23 posted on 06/06/2005 3:59:49 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: CHARLITE

Dean doesn't speak for whole party, some Democrats say - (losing traction even with his own party!)



Nothing unusual about that in either party I'd guess... Seems some would say the same about leaders within the Republican party.


24 posted on 06/06/2005 4:01:37 PM PDT by deport (Women always get the last say in an argument.. anything after that is the start of a new argument)
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To: CasearianDaoist
"It was all part of the plan."

Eggsactly.

Some of my fellow Republicans have been watching the Deanster implode laughing with glee thinking of all the damage he has caused. In reality the Deanster was always going to be a sacrificial lamb for Team Hillary. He was never going to be head of the DNC heading into the real meat of the election push for 2008. He was offered the spot to clear him out of the way for Hillary. He eventually was going to go one way or the other. Dean was "dead DNC chair man walking" the day he agreed. The freaking idiot still hasn't a clue.

Oh well, sooner he is gone the soon we can focus on the real flying monkey who will be doing the Hillary's bidding.
25 posted on 06/06/2005 4:02:12 PM PDT by baystaterebel (F/8 and be there!)
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To: lowbridge; Howlin; Miss Marple; JohnHuang2; Always Right; ken5050; brat; xsmommy; Gabz

It's a shame to see D's ganging up on Spanky Dean. I really liked the "I hate Republicans" thing, but this "never made an honest living" statement topped that! Oh, the irony of THIS from Richie Rich who suffered through summers at the “whites only” Maidstone Club in the Hamptons, went to private schools, had mummy and daddy paying his bills, and ordered their servants around. Poor little Howie....he wouldn't know an "honest living" if it bit him on the butt.


26 posted on 06/06/2005 4:03:12 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: CHARLITE

IMO they are playing "good cop"/ "bad cop", and the Hillary wing will come in at the last moment to save the party from the "extremists"


27 posted on 06/06/2005 4:04:48 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: baystaterebel

Ikies? (sp?)


28 posted on 06/06/2005 4:13:17 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Cincinna

totally agree that this was a set up all along.

He was meant to act the bull in the china shop.

Dean made a deal with Hill for the good of the party, and the powers promised him something good in return.


29 posted on 06/06/2005 4:15:17 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: CHARLITE
Biden is mistaken. Howard "Dr. Demento" Dean does speak for him and all other Democrats. Dean is the head of the party and is the party spokesman.

His attitude and words exactly state the feelings of the Socialist leadership of the Dem party. Dean might be viewed as nasty and mean but what you see is what you get.

Old political hands like Biden might see a danger in Dean as his representative, but there is little he can do about it. After all the party put Dean in as Chairman of the Dem National Committee. They could have perhaps done better -- maybe Sharpton.
30 posted on 06/06/2005 4:33:52 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: CHARLITE
" Edwards said Dean ''is not the spokesman for the party"

In the immortal words of Col. Potter," HORSEHOCKY".
Dean does speak for the Democrat Party. At least the Move-on.org, the Michael Moore & Du wing of the party and that is is the wing that controls the party in 2005.
31 posted on 06/06/2005 4:44:57 PM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: Soul Seeker
IF they didn't want Dean as Chairman representing them they would seek his removal.

Absolutely. This whole thing is nothing but another one of the Dims' patented dog-and-pony shows.

Howard Dean is DNC chair for one reason - to toss raw meat to the loony tunes in the base and keep them frothing at the mouth and on the plantation until 2008. We all need to forget about the (lack of) money Dean is raising. The money's still flowing, it's just flowing to the 527s (with almost no oversight), or it's flowing directly to Hillary's coffers.

The party bigs know that rushing in to clean up after Howard every now and then is just a cost of doing business, and I'll bet that privately, they couldn't be more pleased with the job he's doing so far.

If he was really embarrasing them or trashing their plans and schemes, he'd be cleaning out his office within 15 minutes of Bill or Hillary picking up the phone.

32 posted on 06/06/2005 4:48:58 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: CHARLITE
Dean is doing exactly what I expected him to do, say things and act in accord with his mental illness. The man is megalomaniacal delusional, who will ultimately cross everyone in the Democrat Party. His days as head of the DNC are numbered, just what is that number? Hillary's headaches abound!
33 posted on 06/06/2005 5:06:19 PM PDT by Richard Axtell (There's gonna be hell to pay, so get out yer checkbooks!)
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To: catbertz; Congressman Billybob; knews_hound; EagleUSA; eyespysomething; little jeremiah; ...
"Dean made a deal with Hill for the good of the party, and the powers promised him something good in return."

.....like what? Secretary of State?

ARGH-h-h-h-h.......and YYEEAAGGGGHHHhhhh!!!

Char (:

34 posted on 06/06/2005 6:19:57 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE

"Dean made a deal with Hill for the good of the party, and the powers promised him something good in return."
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Dean is a mentally disturbed person who should seek professional help. While this qualifies him to be a far-left DemoRat and liberal, this super-bad choice as their poster boy is just digging the grave of the radical left even deeper.

*** YEEEAAAHHHH !!! *** :-)


35 posted on 06/06/2005 6:22:54 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: FormerACLUmember

I heard even disgraced ex-President Clinton aws trying to distance himself from Screamin' Dean on the Greta show but I can't find the quote and Fox only has an excerpt of the interview on-line.


36 posted on 06/06/2005 6:23:24 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: CHARLITE

"Dean has said Republicans never made an honest living in their lives and House majority leader Tom DeLay ought to go back to Houston where he can serve his jail sentence. DeLay has not been accused of any crime."

My husband told me that Dean made this statement and I didn't believe him. I told him no one is that stupid. Was I ever wrong.


37 posted on 06/06/2005 6:56:18 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: Cincinna
I agree with all who are suspicious of Dean's behavior. I'm thinking that Dean gets all the tawdry gutter ink that the networks will broadcast, then an alleged "moderate" miraculously enters for the nets to swoon over.

Is Hillary behind the planning?

That's a reasonable guess.

Related: anyone notice the coincidence between the disappearance of the last vestiges of civility in the Congress, and Hillary's senatorial appearance?

Can anybody recall (even in its most contentious moments) when (Democrat) political discourse was so rancorously hate-filled?

Aside: All the while, President Dubya has maintained the steadfast dignity of the Presidency that the impeached and former occupant could never pretend to project.

.

38 posted on 06/06/2005 8:14:53 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

"Related: anyone notice the coincidence between the disappearance of the last vestiges of civility in the Congress, and Hillary's senatorial appearance?"

Also note that since she has been in the Senate the Yankees have lost. The curse of the Bambino is nothing compared to the curse of the bimbo-chaser... Slickette.


39 posted on 06/07/2005 12:15:41 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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