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Red Hat Spins Off Fedora Project
Infoweek ^ | June 3, 2005 | Paula Rooney

Posted on 06/06/2005 9:45:45 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

Red Hat is trying to ramp up its profile in the open source community by spinning off its Fedora open source project into an independent foundation and ramping up its patent reform efforts in the U.S. and in Europe.

As part of the transition, the Fedora open source project will transfer development work and copyright ownership of contributed code to the foundation but Red Hat will continue to provide substantial financial and engineering support.

The company makes its Red Hat Linux distribution available as part of Fedora and said this week that its newly introduced Directory Server and forthcoming Certificate management System will be available on Fedora under the General Public License (GPL).

But the Fedora Foundation is just one of three intellectual property (IP) initiatives being announced by Red Hat this week at its first summit, designed to advance its standing in the open source community.

At the Red Hat Summit, Mark Webbink, Deputy General Counsel at Red Hat, is expected to announce the creation of the Fedora Foundation and the Software Patent Commons. Such efforts signify Red Hat's desire to builder a broader community of developers for its Linux distribution. Fedora is a popular open source project in the Red Hat community but it does have the same pedigree as high profile organizations such as the Linux kernel project, Apache, MySQL or JBoss.

Red Hat released its first Linux distribution to the Fedora project " Fedora Core 1 " in November of 2003. The company is preparing to release Fedora Code 4 in the near future, executives said at the conference in New Orleans.

The proposed patents common, which mimics the Creative Commons licensing scheme for creative works including art and music, is designed to enable developers to exchange ideas with fewer concerns about patent infringement. and Red Hat's efforts to lobby for patent reform in the U.S. and Europe.

Red Hat also promises to bolster its work on patent reform. After his discussion on open source licensing on Thursday, Webbink told CRN that many vendors including Red Hat and Nokia are pushing for is patent and copyright reforms because current laws presents obstacles to the open source movement. For its part, Red Hat is working with the European Parliament to modify the Computer-Implemented Inventions directive, Red Hat said. In the U.S., Red Hat has called for reform of the patent system to ensure better patent quality.

"We're all very active in advancing reform in Europe and here in the US and we will participate in patent reform and copyright reform," Webbink said.

The chairman of a major open source foundation, the Apache Software Foundation, said during his keynote on Thursday that foundation will also increase its lobbying efforts to enable patent reform. The Apache Foundation has challenged a Microsoft Royalty-Free Sender ID Patent License Agreement before the IETF.

Red Hat CEO Matthew Szulik said that discussions about patent reform are ongoing to ensure that information can be shared transparently across Europe, the US and across the globe.

"What does it mean when one single American supplier controls how information moves across Europe?" Szulik asked, alluding to Microsoft during the same week the software giant wrestles with possible new fines and Windows modifications being contemplated by the European Commission, and as it agrees to make minor changes in Windows XP to comply with its consent decree in the U.S.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fedora; linux; redhat

1 posted on 06/06/2005 9:45:46 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: rdb3; ShadowAce

I hope they keep Tux Racer


2 posted on 06/06/2005 9:46:31 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

I love Tux Racer. The kids do too!


3 posted on 06/06/2005 9:47:48 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: stainlessbanner

LOL.....I thought the RED Hat Ladies were starting a men's division called "Fedora"


4 posted on 06/06/2005 9:48:11 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: stainlessbanner

Solaris 10 I have found to be better overall as an OS than Red Hat. However Linux does have a place in the market.


5 posted on 06/06/2005 9:49:26 PM PDT by ikka
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To: goodnesswins; stainlessbanner

"I thought the RED Hat Ladies were starting a men's division called "Fedora"


You aren't alone in that thought. ;o)


"conference in New Orleans"


That is the ONLY thing Southern in this article, sb. ;o)





6 posted on 06/06/2005 9:54:20 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Good Evening DC2K - I'm posting articles about the red hat ladies in the South!


7 posted on 06/06/2005 10:15:32 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: goodnesswins
LOL.....I thought the RED Hat Ladies were starting a men's division called "Fedora"

ROTFLOL You are NOT alone. I was thinking the Red Hatters where up to no good. ;D

8 posted on 06/06/2005 10:18:00 PM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: stainlessbanner

And, a very Good Evening to you!

All Southern wimmen love articles about The Red Hat Ladies.
You are, most definitely, a Southern Gentleman for posting them. ;o)


9 posted on 06/06/2005 10:18:29 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

10 posted on 06/07/2005 5:25:31 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: stainlessbanner

I thought they already did this once, when they dropped support for "Red Hat Linux" and launched "Fedora".


11 posted on 06/07/2005 5:29:33 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: stainlessbanner
They are absolutly *KILLING* me here! I thought ending the RH line at nine and creating Fedora in the first place was annoying (I just started to get into it), now its more likely that Fedora and Redhat will drift apart.

For now Ill give them some benefit of the doubt because I was wrong on the whole RH9 -> FC1 thing being bad..

12 posted on 06/07/2005 5:50:03 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: ikka
I was never too keen on Solaris's package management. But if you're not too keen on x86 I would probably take it over RedHat. After the nightmare they put me through with Solaris7 for x86 It will be a few years till I give them another shot at an intel server..
13 posted on 06/07/2005 5:51:53 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: stainlessbanner
http://fedora.redhat.com/
14 posted on 06/07/2005 5:53:55 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: N3WBI3

I don't blame you. Here's what we use, a solid product from a solid company that doesn't jerk its customers around. And yes you can download it for free, if that's high on your list.

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/index.jsp


15 posted on 06/07/2005 5:56:15 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Sort of, the RH9 -> Fedora change was basically a branding change to differentiate between a free offering and their enterprise stuff. They still determined what went into FC# so it ended up a pretty good snapshot of a RH release.

For example the tested the 2.6 Kernel, SELinux, and other things in Fedora before putting them in RHEL. its not exact but it went something like this.

FC1 -> RHEL2.1, FC2 -> RHEL3 -> FC3 RHEL4

Now it seems they are cutting the strings a bit and letting the Fedora crew do its own thing..

16 posted on 06/07/2005 5:56:23 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Golden Eagle

A company that does not jerk people around? have you forgot the old 'hey were going to get rid of x86 solaris', oh wait I guess were going to keep it afterall?


17 posted on 06/07/2005 5:57:15 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3

When the x86 version was originally launched it was never claimed to be enterprise ready, more like a Fedora beta test. We didn't even fool with it till version 9.


18 posted on 06/07/2005 6:02:36 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: stainlessbanner

Interesting. Looks like Red Hat is getting itself out of the free software "business". Not much profit to made in giving stuff away. Go figure.


19 posted on 06/07/2005 6:14:41 AM PDT by Doohickey (CO during fire drill: "Are we conducting a training evolution or porpoising for the hell of it?")
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To: Golden Eagle

I was not trying to use the x86 Solaris desktop *why would I when at the time SPARC owned x86*, I was using it desktop. It was so aweful they tried to eol it after 8..


20 posted on 06/07/2005 6:16:53 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Golden Eagle

What you say may be true but it is am much jerking around the customer base (look at peoples reaction) as what Redhat is doing..


21 posted on 06/07/2005 6:17:40 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
What you say may be true...

It always is, as far as I know.

22 posted on 06/07/2005 7:02:37 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3
What you say may be true but it is am much jerking around the customer base (look at peoples reaction) as what Redhat is doing..

Is that english, or are you just not coffee'd up enough yet this morning :-)

23 posted on 06/07/2005 7:05:05 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: Doohickey
"Interesting. Looks like Red Hat is getting itself out of the free software "business". Not much profit to made in giving stuff away. Go figure.

No. Keep wishing. RedHat is focusing on Linux for the server market, were they do very well. They also do consulting and custom solutions. RedHat is not closing it's doors, or leaving Linux.

RedHat spun off the desktop into Fedora so they wouldn't 'water down' the Red Hat name. They understood that they had the most recognized name in Linux. They went for the money, and RedHat is an enterprise only distribution now. Perhaps you're surprised by Linux types going for the cash, but believe it or not, we're not all RMS.

Part of the thinking (or at least the press releases) in the Fedora move a few years back was to have Fedora be R&D and less stable. More appropriate to innovate in the desktop area than the server space. Once code in Fedora was deemed mature, it would make it's way into RedHat Enterprise Linux.

The rumors are that the development pipe between RedHat and Fedora hasn't been as smooth as hoped, and this is a step to fix the problem.

24 posted on 06/07/2005 7:15:09 AM PDT by shadowman99
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To: Golden Eagle

but it only goes to show Sun is as quick to jerk around customers as the next guy..


25 posted on 06/07/2005 7:17:51 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: zeugma

Crying baby, sick wife, up till 3:30, awake for work at 5:00... cut me some slack ;)


26 posted on 06/07/2005 7:18:29 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: stainlessbanner
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27 posted on 06/07/2005 8:49:53 AM PDT by B-Cause (“Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”)
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