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Who Ranks Best Behind The Wheel? Allstate Best Drivers Report Reveals Cities with Safest Drivers
Allstate (Business Wire via Google News) ^ | June 07, 2005

Posted on 06/07/2005 10:01:56 AM PDT by newgeezer

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I've often heard we in Cedar Rapids have the lowest auto insurance premiums of any city (over 100K pop.) in the nation.

The gas giveaway was 3 blocks from my home this morning. Un(?)fortunately, I had filled up all our cars just this past weekend. Cars were lined up, two-abreast snaking through the parking lot. (Police had set up barricades to keep the lines in the lot and mostly off the street.) Radio and TV were covering it (including a helicopter for aerial views). Once in line, it was reportedly taking around 45 minutes to get to the pumps.

People are so polite here, the motorist said. "At a 'stop' sign, it's 'You go.'

No, why don't you go?'"

I hate when that happens. It slows everything down. During our rush hour (half an hour each AM & PM), the lines at the 4-way stop signs are many blocks long because of it.

1 posted on 06/07/2005 10:01:56 AM PDT by newgeezer
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To: biblewonk

ping


2 posted on 06/07/2005 10:05:09 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

I can't believe the comparatively mild stats for Jacksonville, FL.

Some of the craziest driving I've ever seen occurred there.


3 posted on 06/07/2005 10:05:34 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Fierro-san)
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To: newgeezer

When will my insurance go down? Actually I can't complain, I am paying more in renters insurance than I am in car insurance!


4 posted on 06/07/2005 10:05:59 AM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in! Never, never, never, never! Never yield in any way great or small.)
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To: newgeezer

bump


5 posted on 06/07/2005 10:07:00 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: newgeezer

Where was the giveaway? I missed it!


6 posted on 06/07/2005 10:07:00 AM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in! Never, never, never, never! Never yield in any way great or small.)
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To: newgeezer
8. Lakewood, Colo. 19.7% less likely 12.4

I got rear-ended in Lakewood in 2001.

7 posted on 06/07/2005 10:08:27 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: newgeezer
Drivers in U.S. cities with populations of one million-plus are more likely than the national average to experience a collision.

No! Really?

Phoenix, the top-ranked city in this category, mirrors the national collision average of one accident every 10 years.

I just knew Phoenix would have a top-ranking spot in something.

8 posted on 06/07/2005 10:11:06 AM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: newgeezer

Every frickin' 4-way should be replaced with a stoplight. I hate 'em.


9 posted on 06/07/2005 10:11:37 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: newgeezer

4. Huntsville, Ala. 23.8% less likely 13.1


Yeah, I almost got arrested in Huntsville last winter. Not a good place to take Massachusetts driving habits. From anecdotal evidence of other Bay-Staters, I attribute Huntsville's relative safety to better traffic enforcement.


10 posted on 06/07/2005 10:11:49 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: newgeezer

-- Signs mean something - Traffic signs are here to help us. "Yield, stop and school zone speed limits are meant to be followed, not ignored," Zahn said.


Yeah right. In Ft Worth the yield sign mean speed up and
have a mexican faceoff with the traffic having the ROW.


11 posted on 06/07/2005 10:12:26 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: RushCrush; All
When will my insurance go down?

When I moved from Davenport to C.R. 23 years ago, I remember my auto insurance went down quite a lot.

Here is Allstate's complete report (PDF file).

(Either Davenport's population has dipped below 100K, or Allstate simply didn't include it in the report.)
12 posted on 06/07/2005 10:15:09 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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182. Philadelphia 46.2% more likely 6.8

Oh, come on!!! No way this could be accurate. ;-)

13 posted on 06/07/2005 10:15:40 AM PDT by JamesWilson
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To: dirtboy
I got rear-ended in Lakewood in 2001.

What does that have to do with automobile accidents?

14 posted on 06/07/2005 10:16:21 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Luna

I guess I'm confused. The chart tells me that Philadelphia is ranked worse than Phoenix, with a liklihood that one would get into a collision every 6-7 years. This is worse than once every 10 years.


15 posted on 06/07/2005 10:17:14 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: rahbert

"Slow down - don't speed up - when approaching a yellow light," Zahn stressed.

Wrong. The yellow light means "Floor it!"


16 posted on 06/07/2005 10:17:41 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: dirtboy

Well, so much for those stats.


17 posted on 06/07/2005 10:18:21 AM PDT by johnb838 ((thanks to those of you that post articles for me, the lowly commentator))
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To: newgeezer

I am pretty sure these numbers are racist, what with Newark, Washington, DC, and Philadelphia near the bottom.


18 posted on 06/07/2005 10:18:54 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: wideawake
Every frickin' 4-way should be replaced with a stoplight. I hate 'em.

If more people understood how they work best -- really, they should be called a 2-way -- they'd be okay. Unfortunately, intelligence is not required to obtain a driver's license.

19 posted on 06/07/2005 10:18:56 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: rahbert
Yeah right. In Ft Worth the yield sign mean speed up and have a mexican faceoff with the traffic having the ROW.

Is Ft. Worth in Mexico?

20 posted on 06/07/2005 10:19:16 AM PDT by johnb838 ((thanks to those of you that post articles for me, the lowly commentator))
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To: martin_fierro

Drivers there must be good at avoiding collisions!


21 posted on 06/07/2005 10:20:19 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: marvlus

I think the chart means that Phoenix is top-ranked for fewer collisions. I guess those Philly drivers are worse than ours here.


22 posted on 06/07/2005 10:22:14 AM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: newgeezer

53 years old and I've never had an accident...everyone I've hit I was aiming for!


23 posted on 06/07/2005 10:22:28 AM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: Onelifetogive

You forgot the sarcasm tag on that.....


24 posted on 06/07/2005 10:22:36 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Guns kill and cause crime? Dang, mine must be malfunctioning....)
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To: johnb838

dunno. i'll ask around..


25 posted on 06/07/2005 10:22:50 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Cecily

I live in the DC metro area (N.VA) the drivers in this area are terrible. I am cut off many times in just one day. Last nite on the way home from work, I had a green arrow for a left turn, the driver coming the other way turned right and almost hit me! I blew my horn to warn him of the impending collision, I slammed on my brakes. The driver ignored me, I did flash my brights at him as he pulled in front of me. He watched me turn into the grocery store parking lot and approached me at my car and wanted to argue and start something with me.

When he saw that I was a rather large man in height and weight, he backed off. His remarks were cut off by me, but he said he did not care who had the right of way!


26 posted on 06/07/2005 10:24:45 AM PDT by Mr. D (Here is the announcement of the (fraud) forum)
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To: newgeezer

I don't know how they can list Huntsville, Alabama as one of the safest cities. I live there and a person needs sonar to drive safely!


27 posted on 06/07/2005 10:24:45 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: RushCrush
Where was the giveaway? I missed it!

HandiMart Phillips 66, 588 Boyson Road NE (just W of C Avenue). It started around 5:20 AM. All the radio and TV stations were covering it. Newscopter 9 was hovering over the gas station from about 5:45 until sometime after I left for work at 7. The aerial views were pretty amazing. They had the cars winding through the adjacent parking lots like a queue in an amusement park (or, think Best Buy on the day after Thanksgiving).

The copter was loud enough at our house 3 blocks away that I'm real glad we don't live in the neighborhood next to the gas station.

28 posted on 06/07/2005 10:24:59 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: Hi Heels
You forgot the sarcasm tag on that.....

Anonymity makes one say things here that they would NEVER say in real life.....

29 posted on 06/07/2005 10:25:59 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: newgeezer

From the complete report, the Hall of Shame - the 10 Worst:
Washington, DC
Newark, NJ
Alexandria, VA
Arlington, VA
Elizabeth, NJ
Glendale, CA
Providence, RI
Baltimore, MD
San Francisco, CA
Norfolk, VA

All of the cities here with which I am familiar have one thing in common - they were not designed for automobiles.


30 posted on 06/07/2005 10:26:55 AM PDT by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: marvlus
The chart tells me that Philadelphia is ranked worse than Phoenix, with a liklihood that one would get into a collision every 6-7 years. This is worse than once every 10 years.

That's correct.

I guess I'm confused.

What makes you think so?

31 posted on 06/07/2005 10:28:19 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: marvlus; Luna

Phoenix is ranked *best* of cities over 1 million population.


32 posted on 06/07/2005 10:29:24 AM PDT by Sloth (Discarding your own liberty is foolish, but discarding the liberty of others is evil.)
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To: All

FYI, the worst city on the list is Washington, DC. 92% increased likelihood of an accident, averaging one every 5.2 years.


33 posted on 06/07/2005 10:30:56 AM PDT by Sloth (Discarding your own liberty is foolish, but discarding the liberty of others is evil.)
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To: dirtboy
I got rear-ended in Lakewood in 2001.

No need to get so personal, this is an insurance thread.

34 posted on 06/07/2005 10:32:57 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This is not your granddaddy's America...)
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"From the complete report, the Hall of Shame - the 10 Worst: Washington, DC Newark, NJ Alexandria, VA Arlington, VA Elizabeth, NJ Glendale, CA Providence, RI Baltimore, MD San Francisco, CA Norfolk, VA "

If Boston isn't on it, I don't believe it. You can get your butt kicked for Boston driving in the rest of the country.

35 posted on 06/07/2005 10:34:48 AM PDT by JustRight
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To: marvlus

Certainly. You wanna win, dontcha?


36 posted on 06/07/2005 10:35:13 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Guns kill and cause crime? Dang, mine must be malfunctioning....)
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To: newgeezer
I can see how Cedar Rapids has a low collision rate.

People just don't drive as fast going to the local Wal-Mart on Saturday.

Besides, John Deere tractors won't break many speed limits.
37 posted on 06/07/2005 10:35:33 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: newgeezer
If more people understood how they work best -- really, they should be called a 2-way -- they'd be okay.

I assume that you're referring to the fact that when 4 cars approach one from all points of the compass, N will wait for W who'll wait for S who'll wait for E, when N+S and E+W should just alternate.

Problem is, the number of jackasses who never use their turn signals ever. If you are headed N, one of these jokers headed S will inevitably assume that it's his turn, will gleefully turn left without signalling, wreck your front end and then blame you because it was "his turn."

38 posted on 06/07/2005 10:36:14 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Mr. D

What you describe is a typical Atlanta driving move. Others are the left hand turn from the right hand lane across several lanes of traffic, and vice versa, and of course the old pull out from behind someone going 60 MPH in the merge lane to get ahead and cut them off because they aren't moving fast enough for you in the merge lane.

Average speed limit on Atlanta highways: 80+ MPH

Average speed limit on Atlanta surface streets: 60 MPH, and the Lord help you if you are so rude as to drive the posted speed limit or even a little above it and slow anybody down. You WILL be tailgated all the way down the surface road if there is no way for Mr. Speedy to pass you.


39 posted on 06/07/2005 10:36:34 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: RebelBanker

Ya know, I have no problem with SF on the list, cuz it's HELL to drive there, but Glendale??? Go figure.


40 posted on 06/07/2005 10:36:55 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Guns kill and cause crime? Dang, mine must be malfunctioning....)
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To: JustRight
If Boston isn't on it, I don't believe it. You can get your butt kicked for Boston driving in the rest of the country.

From the article:

"Note: The Allstate data excludes cities in the state of Massachusetts, where Allstate Insurance Company does not offer insurance products."
Translation: Boston is so bad, Allstate refuses to sell insurance there. ;^)
41 posted on 06/07/2005 10:38:20 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: newgeezer

Driving around Dallas ia a nightmare. If you go 10-15 over, you'll likely to get people trying to pass you on closing lanes and such.


42 posted on 06/07/2005 10:38:24 AM PDT by G32
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To: dirtboy

"I got rear-ended in Lakewood in 2001."

Oh Man.... I know this is off topic, but there's a Lakewood up here in the Cleveland area where that statement would have a whole different meaning!

Suffice it to say its kind of like the little San Francisco on Lake Erie.

Sorry...


43 posted on 06/07/2005 10:41:07 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Hi Heels
Glendale??? Go figure.

All I remember about Glendale is that the cemetery is a bona fide tourist attraction. :)

44 posted on 06/07/2005 10:44:28 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: newgeezer

This data is close to useless because it is not normalized into the number accidents per mile driven. Instead, it is provided as the number of years between accidents. The problem is that those who live near big cities typically have much longer commutes and therefore will put on more miles per year - which increases their exposure and absolute probability of having an accident. The traffic density is also higher - which also increases the probability of accidents. In order to have a truly meaningful comparison, one must measure the number of accidents over an equivalent period of exposure (i.e., per mile driven).


45 posted on 06/07/2005 10:48:00 AM PDT by Zap Brannigan
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To: Mr. D
Last nite on the way home from work, I had a green arrow for a left turn, the driver coming the other way turned right and almost hit me!

Considering you had the arrow and he was turning right on red, he clearly should have yielded the right of way. But, if instead you both had the green light, and you each had a separate lane to turn into, if each of you had stayed in your own lane, it'd be no problem. But, I'm often amazed at how the right-turners in that situation seem to think they have the right to turn across both lanes.

46 posted on 06/07/2005 10:52:03 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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Nashville, 23??????????? No way, I had two vehicles totaled in two years. One the other driver ran a red light, "T-boned" me and then backed up and took off. The second my car was parked and a woman got out of her car with the engine running and a kid in the car, the kid put the car in reverse and it hit my car.
47 posted on 06/07/2005 10:52:22 AM PDT by sticker
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To: newgeezer

They got one city correct as being the worse drivers, Philadelphia. They will literally run over pedestrians there. I know that for a fact.


48 posted on 06/07/2005 10:56:25 AM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: Zap Brannigan
This data is close to useless because it is not normalized into the number accidents per mile driven.

To the extent that accident insurance rates take into account where you live and drive, the data are quite useful for the purpose of setting those rates. For that purpose, there is no need to normalize for miles driven.

49 posted on 06/07/2005 10:57:06 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: newgeezer

That's true - it is useful from an insurance perspective. However, people incorrectly view these results as somehow being indicative of the skill and quality of drivers in various cities (see above posts).


50 posted on 06/07/2005 10:59:29 AM PDT by Zap Brannigan
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