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Genes drive ability to orgasm: Scientists say DNA exerts strong influence on whether women climax
Nature Magazine ^ | 8 June 2005 | Roxanne Khamsi

Posted on 06/08/2005 3:40:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

A woman's genetic make-up accounts for at least a third of her ability to climax during sex, say researchers, and may even account for as much as 60%.

Further investigations into the genetic differences that influence orgasms in women could help produce drugs to treat female sexual dysfunction, they say.

Relatively little is known about the female orgasm, the peak of sexual excitement normally marked by vaginal contractions. "It's a taboo subject," explains Tim Spector, who directs the Twin Research Unit at St Thomas' Hospital, London, and co-authored the report.

Women do not need to climax in order to conceive and give birth, a fact that makes the evolutionary cause of their orgasm slightly mysterious. In contrast, men who cannot orgasm miss the chance to pass on their genes and fall victim to natural selection.

So what function does the female orgasm serve? As well as making women more interested in the activity of procreation, recent investigations have found the contractions it involves can bring sperm closer to the egg, increasing the chance of conception.

Evolutionary psychologists have also suggested that the female orgasm might help women to select caring partners: those who are particularly attentive in the bedroom may also be more supportive in other aspects of life.

Twin peaks

To find out which factors most affect a woman's ability to climax, Spector and his colleagues sent a questionnaire to more than 4,000 female twins to complete anonymously. Recipients included nearly 700 pairs of identical twins, who share the same DNA.

The researchers asked how often the women climaxed during sex. Only 14% of the women reported always achieving an orgasm. At the other end of the spectrum, 16% of them said they never reach orgasm or are unsure about whether they do or not.

As in other studies of twins, the scientists assume that twins share similar family environments. The overall difference between trends in identical twins and fraternal twins is thus attributed to genetic influences. The analysis suggests that genes explain at least 34% of the probability that a woman orgasms during sex. When it came to masturbation, this number climbed to 45%, the researchers report in Biology Letters1.

This number could go even higher, they add, if one could account for other variables, such as the different techniques of the women's partners. Genetic influences have been seen to account for as much as 60% of variability in other complex traits, such as obesity.

Pleasure in a pill

The number of genes that influence the female orgasm remains unknown. But researchers reason that comparing the DNA of women who always orgasm with that of those who never do could shed light on the biological pathway behind the process. Drugs could then be developed to target the most influential genes or gene products in this pathway.

Medications for male erectile problems, such as Pfizer's Viagra (sildenafil citrate), have already given men more options, says London-based relationship therapist Ruth Mitchell. But she says women lack a similarly popular and effective treatment.

Even with the promise of drugs, Mitchell cautions that many factors besides biology affect the ability to orgasm. "There's such a huge impact from conditioning and expectation," she says.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crevolist; gettingintoyourgenes; o; orgasm
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To: CobaltBlue
Now, be logical. Why would it be in a female's best interest to adopt the male's strategy? What do females have to gain by limiting sexual congress to only one male?

Lemme try to suggest a scenario. This one isn't human, so it's not personal. I'm thinking of the lovable walrus, who keeps a harem of females. With a species like that, where the female isn't always in season, the male wants -- for whatever reasons -- to assure that he's the one who impregnates her during those rare times when she's fertile. If the male is protecting his females, he's got an investment in them. And presumably they benefit from his benevolent (but authoritarian) devotion. So it wouldn't be in a female's interest to stray. Besides, if she's being kept by the dominant male, she wants his offspring, not some inferior's spawn. Make sense? It seems to work for them. Maybe not. It's up to you.

141 posted on 06/09/2005 10:43:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: OldEagle

Only if done correctly!


142 posted on 06/09/2005 10:47:07 AM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: PatrickHenry

I don't know anything about walrus reproduction, except that a quick google shows that it takes place "off the pack ice, remote from shore; breeding locations are thus largely inaccessible for observation." So, the only way to know whether female walruses (walri?) are actually monogamous would probably be DNA testing.
http://www.seaworld.org/animal-info/info-books/walrus/reproduction.htm

I will point out that it's fallacious to assume that because the alpha male is bigger and meaner than the less mature males competing for the cows, that his sperm is, ipso facto, superior. His sperm may be aged, or otherwise inferior to that of younger males who have yet to come into their physical prime.

Sneaking off to reproduce with a younger but not-yet-dominant bull would then make reproductive sense, especially if it means that your offspring "gets the jump" on that of your less-adventurous herd mates.

Or to use human terms, why assume that the king's sperm is better than the prince's sperm? Especially if the king is old.


143 posted on 06/09/2005 11:01:10 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Or, to put it in even more human terms, given the choice between Prince Charles and Prince William, if the only goal is better genes for the offspring, human females would be stupid to prefer Prince Charles, even though he has higher social status today than Prince William.

Prince William is much stronger and better looking, seems to be more intelligent, fewer psychological quirks, and he will someday probably be king, while Prince Charles is a mess and will never be king.


144 posted on 06/09/2005 11:07:30 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue
Oh yeah? Well, I'm out, so argue with this guy:


145 posted on 06/09/2005 12:05:37 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

It's not an argument, really, it's an explanation.

Another example -- stop any random female in a shopping mall -- would she rather reproduce with George W. Bush, the most powerful man in the world, or her favorite movie star? My guess is movie star (or rock star or sports star.)

Women and men just have different strategies. Which makes sense, given that on some level, we're competing, not just against others of our own sex, but even against each other.


146 posted on 06/09/2005 12:16:51 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue
Please. Point me to this society where human females practice promescuity as a reproductive strategy, and I'll form a travel company and make a mint sending men to visit all these women having indiscriminate sex.

You'll just start ranting about feminists and loose womyn and other evil females in your mental parade of horribles.

There's your indoctrination coming through again. Only in the fevered delusions of the feministas are "loose" women thought by men to be "evil." How many times do I have to tell you, men love loose women. We just don't marry them.

147 posted on 06/09/2005 12:51:41 PM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: CobaltBlue
Okay, how about I tell you why you're an idiot...

"Promiscuous" and "monogamous" are not opposites. Only a freaking idiot would suggest that humans or women are monogamous. That's not true, and I never argued this point. Humans are more intermediate; not as "pure" as, say, gorillas; not as "slutty" as chimpanzees.

My point in all of this is to show why women's reproductive strategy does not encompass promiscuity. (That is to say, they do not have sex indiscriminately, like the bonobos you hyped.) Of course I not saying female reproductive strategy is to be exclusively monogamous. On at least two occasions I mentioned that cheating is actually part of the female's reproductive strategy.

But even when females mate outside the pair bond, they are not being promiscuous like bonobos; they are choosy. It is sexual selection at work. It only makes sense, from a reproductive-fitness standpoint, if she cheated with someone who is or appears to be more fit than her current mate and not just some slob off the street.

But, as I also said, it would be done in very limited circumstances, such as when there is the opportunity to mate with a male who is or appears to be a genetically high-value male, where she can not "permanently" bond with this male, and that she can do so without jeopardizing her current pair bond.

The benefit which a cheating female gets is genetic. But she would be worse off if, in doing so, she losses the aid of the male who she must count on to help raise this child that is not genetically his.

So both female and male reproductive strategies work against and in light of the other. Just as pure monogamy doesn't advance the female's strategy, there has to be a base level of fidelity, otherwise there would be no incentive for males to stick around, and females would loose the benefit of having males around to help raise children.

On the other side, there is a benefit to be gained by the female by cheating with a higher quality male, if she can retain the pair bond, so she won't lose the advantage that gives her.

Basically, once the interactions work out, you get a situation where there is a basic degree of monogamy with opportunistic infidelity occurring. But you don't come anywhere near the promiscuous situation like with the bonobos you brought up.

148 posted on 06/09/2005 12:51:45 PM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: WildHorseCrash

Your perspicacity is only exceeded by your charm.

Have a nice day.


149 posted on 06/09/2005 1:05:06 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: R. Scott
1. I think you have been deceived.

2. Statistics show that 87% of women do not have an orgasm with intercourse. (I read that statistic just this week...don't know where. I read too much online.) IMO, if you don't know how to drive the vehicle you cannot teach someone else to do so...

150 posted on 06/09/2005 1:11:55 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: WildHorseCrash
How many times do I have to tell you, men love loose women. We just don't marry them.

I've known a nympho or two in my misspent youth. They usually end up married to a dentist, or in one case a pharmacist. I donno why.

151 posted on 06/09/2005 1:26:11 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I've known a nympho or two in my misspent youth. They usually end up married to a dentist, or in one case a pharmacist. I donno why.

Because they both think they married up.

152 posted on 06/09/2005 1:47:14 PM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: PatrickHenry

Requires more research. Obviously.


153 posted on 06/09/2005 1:49:01 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Later! Got to read this one for sure.


154 posted on 06/09/2005 1:55:35 PM PDT by citabria (zoom, zoom, boom. boom)
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To: PatrickHenry

"Nympho" = someone who wants more sex than you do.

"Frigid" = someone who wants less sex than you do. ;^)


155 posted on 06/09/2005 2:12:25 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue
Not really. It's just the extreme ends of a bell curve.
156 posted on 06/09/2005 2:27:28 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I was joking, but if you want to be serious, nymphomania and frigidity are NOT extreme ends of a bell curve.

"Nymphomania" is a subjective judgment that a woman has too high of a sex drive. A man with multiple partners over time isn't subjected to as much social opprobrium as a woman. It's a cultural judgment, not a medical term.

"Frigidity" doesn't tell you anything about how often a woman has sex, only that she doesn't enjoy it.

For that matter, a woman you call a nymphomaniac may not actually enjoy it, she might do it a lot hoping that someone eventually will "untangle her tingle".

So many things men could learn if they'd ask questions rather than give lectures . . . .


157 posted on 06/09/2005 2:41:06 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

87%? That is a huge number! Unbelievable! They have my deepest sympathy.


158 posted on 06/09/2005 2:49:48 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: exDemMom

It called testicular feminization, and Jamie Lee Curtis is ,supposedly, a perfect example. Technically, she's an XY male, but is, for all practical purposes, female. She sure looks all female to me!


159 posted on 06/09/2005 2:52:20 PM PDT by Maury
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TheWalrusWasPaul place mark


160 posted on 06/09/2005 2:58:00 PM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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