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Tenth Amendment intact after pot ruling
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| 6/8/05
| Al Knight
Posted on 06/08/2005 6:54:42 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham
The reason for this congressional reluctance is not hard to determine. It sure isn't. LEO's depend on the arrests, and fines, court costs, etc. that follow, as a major part of their operating budgets. If MJ became legal, it would cut their budgets.
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:00:50 PM PDT
by
CrawDaddyCA
(There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
To: Crackingham
Once again over stepping bounds one law at a time.
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:02:16 PM PDT
by
satchmodog9
(Murder and weather are our only news)
To: Crackingham
The fact is, as Justice Antonin Scalia pointed out in a concurring opinion Monday, it's hard to tell the difference between marijuana intended for intrastate use from that intended for interstate use. Typical legal understatement. In fact it is impossible.
As was plainly proven when the "initiative" was passed in California, through misrepresentation, the dopeheads plainly celebrating the following day with broad grins on their faces looked healthier than I am. Medical marijuana is a scam to create a gray area for druggies, pure and simple.
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:02:20 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
To: Crackingham
Little wide of the mark. Raisch was not an attack on the 10th Amendment, it was a placeholder in an ongoing erosion of it that has been going on since 1939.
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:04:38 PM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: Publius6961; Chieftain; pbrown
SO F'NG WHAT?!!!
Let the "dopeheads" stone themselves into oblivion. What do YOU care ? You don't care that hundreds of thousands of Americans are addicted to Alcohol and "legal" pain meds and causing untold criminal, social and economic harm ? We aren't rushing to BAN alcohol and pain drugs!
But lets spend millions in MY tax dollars on the hunt for MJ while we have a War on Terror and open borders going on.
Yes,and Oh MY God, some poor dying patient or sick person with MS or other chronic pain may smoke a joint to get relief.....Oh My god....let's rush right out and really make sure they can't get any MJ because
(get ready .... here's why.....)
"some dopehead may have a grin on their face ."
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:16:13 PM PDT
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
To: Crackingham
This is no different than Baker v Carr.
It is unwarranted federal interference into the internal affairs of an individual state.
It is not the job of federal bureaucrats to micromanage every single aspect of life within the individual states
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:17:33 PM PDT
by
AzaleaCity5691
(Farragut got lucky, if we had been on our game, we would have blasted him off Dauphin Island)
To: CrawDaddyCA
Follow the Money ....sell out our Constitution for a few bucks and some easy, lazy jobs.
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:18:46 PM PDT
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
To: Publius6961
The fact is, as Justice Antonin Scalia pointed out in a concurring opinion Monday, it's hard to tell the difference between marijuana intended for intrastate use from that intended for interstate use. That is a clear abuse of the interstate commerce clause. As Clarence Thomas points out in his dissent (whatever happened to "Scalia Dissents"), if the interstate commerce clause permits the federal government to override state law and arrest people for growing something for their own consumption in their own house, then the concept of enumerated powers in the Constitution mean nothing.
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:23:10 PM PDT
by
Jibaholic
(The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
To: Jibaholic
As Clarence Thomas points out in his dissent (whatever happened to "Scalia Dissents")This is a clear example of the difference between Scalia and Thomas. Scalia is much more willing to bow to precedent, even if the precedent (in this case, abuse of the interstate commerce clause) is wrong. Thomas believes that if the precedent is wrong, it should be disregarded.
To: Crackingham
From the tyrants:
"As the court explains, marijuana that is grown at home and possessed for personal use is never more than an instant from the interstate market and this is so whether or not the possession is for medicinal use or lawful use under the laws of a particular state." As Thomas points out, what is there that does not meet this same criteria? What is there that is more than an instant away from the interstate market? Chewing gum? Earthworms? I challenge anyone who supports the court's decision to name any substance or activity whatever that can be excluded from federal control.
To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Yes,and Oh MY God, some poor dying patient or sick person with MS or other chronic pain may smoke a joint to get relief...If the time came that I would need pot to relieve chronic pain, nothing the courts said would stop me. To deny patients the very thing that would ease their suffering is inhumane.
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:54:00 PM PDT
by
processing please hold
(Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
To: Jibaholic
if the interstate commerce clause permits the federal government to override state law and arrest people for growing something for their own consumption in their own houseThat's pretty much where the Roosevelt court started its broad expansion of the Commerce Clause, as I recall, except they were dealing with wheat, rather than pot.
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:55:03 PM PDT
by
PAR35
To: Publius6961
"If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything," Thomas wrote. "...the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers and may now regulate quilting bees, clothes drives, and potluck suppers throughout the 50 states."
Justice Thomas
I feel so much safer now that Leviathan can protect me from such a danger.
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:58:54 PM PDT
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: Crackingham
As intact as it was before, which is to say dead and buried, right where it's been since April 1865
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posted on
06/08/2005 7:58:58 PM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: pbrown
Uh, and they say they are Christians? I ask, "What would Jesus do ?"
And Budhha said," We are to alleviate needless suffering."
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posted on
06/08/2005 8:03:40 PM PDT
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I can't see all Dr's. obeying that order. They will alleviate their patients suffering by any means necessary.
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posted on
06/08/2005 8:08:53 PM PDT
by
processing please hold
(Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
To: pbrown
I'm waiting for the first Supoena to a dying patient handed to his hospice worker. Let the cameras role! and this from the same compassionate people who railed about Schiavo. I give up.
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posted on
06/08/2005 8:13:00 PM PDT
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I'm waiting for the first Supoena to a dying patient handed to his hospice worker. Let the cameras role! and this from the same compassionate people who railed about Schiavo. I give up. Don't give up. It may feel hopeless and unwinable most of the time, but we can't give up...that's what they want us to do.
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posted on
06/08/2005 8:17:59 PM PDT
by
processing please hold
(Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
To: Publius6961
Medical marijuana is a scam... Spoken like someone who doesn't have a loved one in great need.
"Rights are a scam for those who would abuse them" is no excuse for taking them away from those who don't abuse them.
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posted on
06/08/2005 8:22:14 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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