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Internet Utopia - (Sens. McCain, Feingold; Reps. Shays, Meehan propose regulating Internet)
TECH CENTRAL STATION.COM ^ | JUNE 8, 2005 | RYAN SAGER

Posted on 06/09/2005 2:59:44 PM PDT by CHARLITE

The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse -- sorry, that's Sens. John McCain and Russ Feingold and Reps. Chris Shays and Marty Meehan, Congress' Dark Knights of Campaign-Finance Reform -- have a message for bloggers: They're not "out to get them."

The scare quotes are theirs.

In comments submitted to the Federal Election Commission last week, as the regulatory body seeks advice on how to apply the McCain-Feingold law to the Internet, the enemies of the First Amendment had to walk a fine line. On one side, the politicians in them wanted to genuflect to democracy, open debate and all the new citizen journalists who seem to wield so much influence these days. On the other side, however, the clean-government obsessive-compulsives in them knew that freedom's just another word for something new to regulate.

And, so, the four created an immensely entertaining document for the FEC commissioners -- and for any private citizens who want to see whether the politicians who are trying to put a straight-jacket on the blogosphere even understand what it is.

"All of us were candidates for reelection in 2004," the four write. "We saw firsthand the way the Internet is changing, and in many ways improving, political discourse."

So far, so good.

"The opportunities that the Internet provides for average citizens to participate in political debate are the most significant change in the way that campaigns are conducted since the advent of television. The Commission must tread very carefully in this area so as not to stifle the virtually limitless potential of this exciting medium."

Yes, yes.

"At the same time…"

Uh-oh.

"…there is no reason to believe that monied interests will not attempt to use the Internet to influence politics and policy as they attempt to do with other modes of communication. Indeed, there is every reason to expect that they will."

Damn those monied interests, ruining an exciting medium for the rest of us! Damn them all to hell!

Of course, as usual, McCain et al. don't bother to explain just why monied interests shouldn't have every right to try to "influence politics and policy."

But, at least in this debate, that logical leap is beside the point.

The fact is that in the debate over extending campaign-finance regulation to the Internet, the so-called "reform community" -- i.e., the front groups for the eight liberal foundations that have been the money behind the clean-government movement since the 1990s -- has yet to offer a compelling rationale for why money spent on politics online needs to be controlled at all.

That is, even if one accepts the idea that money spent on TV attack ads and the like is somehow corrupting and destructive, there's no reason to believe that the dynamic is (or will be in the future) the same on the Internet.

This isn't because the Internet is some magic place where the rules of the real world don't apply. It's because the Internet is an active medium, whereas most traditional media (at least those which most trouble the reformers) are passive. In other words, while TV and radio ads bombard average Americans while they go about their daily business, people actually have to seek out content online.

Given that fundamental difference, one is left to wonder just how monied interests would exert their dreaded "influence" on the Web.

Would they buy thousands upon thousands of banner ads? Pop-ups? Pop-unders?

Would they set up gigantic Web sites, so attractive, so sprawling, so enticing that hapless Web surfers would be unable to avoid being drawn to them?

Would they create extra-spiffy Flash animations?

Just how would this influence be wielded?

No doubt, "monied interests," as McCain and Co. so charmingly and anachronistically call American businesses and labor unions and entrepreneurs, could do all of these things. But there's no reason to assume that they would be effective.

The entire point of the Internet -- or at least the reason for its success -- is that it takes money about as far out of the equation as it can get. Tens of thousands of blogs can reach as many people as are willing to listen for dollars a month. Sure, not every one of these blogs has the capacity to create fancy videos, animations or other bells and whistles. But a lot of them do -- and not just those in league with moneyed interests.

In short, money just isn't that big an advantage on the Internet. Credibility, reliability, wit, intellect, populist appeal -- these are the coins of the Internet's realm.

In fact, the Internet resembles in many ways the campaign-finance reformers' long-sought utopia: full public financing of political campaigns. While the government is of course not financing anyone on the Internet, the outcome is the same: For an absolute pittance, every idea, every political philosophy, every candidate has access to a soap box.

The only limitation is how many people care to listen.

Why, when the free market has gone and created the exact state of affairs the reformers have long claimed to desire, are the McCains of the world looking to crack down?

Because the reform movement has never been about freedom. It has always been about control.

Ryan Sager is a member of the editorial board of The New York Post. He also edits the blog Miscellaneous Objections and can be reached at editor@rhsager.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloggers; cfr; cfr2; christophershays; congress; internet; johnmccain; legislation; martymeehan; mccain; meehan; regulation; rino; rinos; russfeingold; shays
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"Why, when the free market has gone and created the exact state of affairs the reformers have long claimed to desire, are the McCains of the world looking to crack down?

Because the reform movement has never been about freedom. It has always been about control."

1 posted on 06/09/2005 2:59:44 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
Whatever it is McCain comes up with in the terms of law I want advice on how to break it early and often.

He is a very tiresome and irksom old totalitarian who appears to have actually "gone over" in his long captivity.

Maybe they would like him back.

2 posted on 06/09/2005 3:03:29 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: CHARLITE
Oh Crap! Here we go again! Any legislation with McCain & Feingold as sponsors, we're in trouble!
3 posted on 06/09/2005 3:03:37 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: CHARLITE

Is there a procedure to kick McCain out of the party? Or is he allowed to call himself "republican" no matter what?


4 posted on 06/09/2005 3:03:56 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: CHARLITE

"Because the reform movement has never been about freedom. It has always been about control."
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Exactly -- and this is why this socialist shill and his ilk, the McCain-Feingold (et al) anti-First Amendment lot, have to be stopped. The country is getting fed up with the Washington elite, and now they are trying to SUPPRESS what we can do.

Get ready. Here comes the dawn.


5 posted on 06/09/2005 3:04:02 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: muawiyah

Maybe they would like him back.
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Yes, back to the Hanoi Hilton, one way, all expenses paid.


6 posted on 06/09/2005 3:05:18 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: CHARLITE
Why, when the free market has gone and created the exact state of affairs the reformers have long claimed to desire, are the McCains of the world looking to crack down?

Because McCain is not the maverick media darling he is advertised to be. He is a yes man. It's up to those older than 40, or students of history to determine for themselves whose yes man he might be.

7 posted on 06/09/2005 3:06:14 PM PDT by glock rocks ( There are not enough liberals in Utah to bother to appease. - Warren Keuffel)
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To: CHARLITE

Right. McCain-Feingold worked so well last election, so lets create Son of McCain-Feingold....

I will crawl across broken glass to see McCain defeated.


8 posted on 06/09/2005 3:07:25 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: EagleUSA
"now they are trying to SUPPRESS what we can do."

In this great state of NJ, my son got a ticket yesterday for swimming with friends at a quarry, a place that they've gone to in the summer, for years!

It's all about the MONEY!!!!

9 posted on 06/09/2005 3:08:07 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: Alia; Calpernia

~McCain / CFR2 FYI ping~


10 posted on 06/09/2005 3:24:02 PM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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To: CHARLITE
Slavery never died. We citizens are all slaves to the government. And soon we will realize we are not free. Wait until the chip is injected in our arms to control everything we do. That's when we will get a potty fee, so be ready to crap maybe once every day or at least when your eyes turn brown. It'll just cost too much.
11 posted on 06/09/2005 3:24:27 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: CHARLITE
McCain/ Feingold tried their hand on regulating campaign contributions, resulting in opening up campaigns for Billionaires.
His next endeavor came with deal making towards Filibusters, which held for two and a half days.
McCain caused two crash landings which he obviously needs to bury.
He now wants to regulate taxation of the Internet.
Is McCain still for real while running from one failure into the next trying to put his lack of skills/ understandings behind him?
His MSM applause is assured till.... Hillary declares and he gets presented with and has to eat all of his flops.
An eye popping reality check is in store for MCCain.
12 posted on 06/09/2005 3:27:13 PM PDT by hermgem
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To: JesseJane

Check your My Comments for a follow up ping.


13 posted on 06/09/2005 3:32:19 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks again Cal..


14 posted on 06/09/2005 3:35:16 PM PDT by JesseJane (43 - First 'illegal alien' Presidente')
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To: CHARLITE

Scary!


15 posted on 06/09/2005 3:35:50 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: CHARLITE
"…there is no reason to believe that monied interests will not attempt to use the Internet to influence politics and policy as they attempt to do with other modes of communication. Indeed, there is every reason to expect that they will."

Here is the difference. A webpage I create sits on MY server. It is not broadcast. People come to see it. I don't send it out. It would be like me putting a sign in my living room and people coming over to see it. To equate it with other forms of communication like TV or radio is just wrong.

16 posted on 06/09/2005 3:40:04 PM PDT by Pete
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To: CHARLITE
Because the reform movement has never been about freedom. It has always been about control."

I heartily agree with this statement. They have already managed to muzzle the NRA around election time with their "campaign reform." If it were not for the internet I don't think that we would have won the last election. Long Live Freedom of Speech in the USA. Down with the RINOs and Dems.

17 posted on 06/09/2005 3:41:10 PM PDT by NRA Patriot 1976 (God bless our troops)
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To: NRA Patriot 1976

Agreed. The internet must be controlled by the politicians, for them to control us, rather than us controlling them.


18 posted on 06/09/2005 3:48:06 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: JesseJane
Thank you for the ping, JJ!

Ryan Sanger has a style which cracks me up; in how right it is:

In fact, the Internet resembles in many ways the campaign-finance reformers' long-sought utopia: full public financing of political campaigns.

YES! Exactly right. Unlike the Fannie Lou/Mae (?) Hammer "solution" and Mr. McCain's most recent "bubble" on FORCED STANDARDS UPON BROADCASTERS HAVING TO GIVE EQUAL TIME TO ANY AND EACH AND EVERY CANDIDATE.

When I saw his proposed "idea".. about that forcing.. I thought of CA's "Total Recall" Election -- what was it ... over 100 Candidates for governor? And that was just for governor. (wondering if Hollywood moguls (and studio fiefdoms *hated* that idea of McCain's...).

While the government is of course not financing anyone on the Internet, the outcome is the same: For an absolute pittance, every idea, every political philosophy, every candidate has access to a soap box.

Bingo!

Who's next in the shell game, newspapers forced to list the websites of each and every candidate? With links to "real" blogs as opposed to "those peasant" blogs? Over time, the MSM would resemble, nothing but listed links during an election, no?

19 posted on 06/09/2005 4:05:33 PM PDT by Alia
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To: CHARLITE

More BS from the RINOs McCain and Shays.


20 posted on 06/09/2005 4:20:58 PM PDT by darkangel82
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