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One Reporter's Opinion Never Legalize Pot!
Newmax ^ | Friday, June 10, 2005 | Gearge Putnam

Posted on 06/10/2005 2:32:31 PM PDT by Nachum

It is this reporter's opinion that each generation in turn takes a new look at the marijuana question. Now it's this generation's turn. In a 6-to-3 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that federal anti-marijuana statutes overrule the laws in ten states that allow the use of marijuana plants to ease pain or nausea.

Fifty years ago, as a much younger television reporter, I did a series of interviews with Dr. Hardin B. Jones, Professor of Medical Physics and Physiology at the University of California Berkeley. Dr. Jones, in his thorough study, raised disturbing questions about marijuana's effects on the vital systems of the body, on the brain and mind, on immunity and resistance, and on sex reproduction.

Dr. Jones addressed such problems of society as the hazards to non-smokers, crime, the law, and the effect of widespread smoking among the military – including atomic weapons personnel. And he didn't stop there. The good doctor included telling comments from interviews conducted with scores of marijuana users and ex-users.

I concluded, after this exhaustive study, that the very idea of legalizing marijuana is to follow a senseless, immoral, perilous path – a slippery slope, that the use of marijuana is dangerous on many fronts, that it impairs memory, alters time perception, reduces coordination, damages the immune system, is psychologically habit-forming and creates a wide range of effects on moods and behavior.

Dr. Jones offered an open letter to parents. Following are the main points discussed in his letter:

Marijuana is not a benign drug. Use of this drug impairs learning and judgment and may lead to the development of mental health problems.

Smoking marijuana can injure or destroy lung tissue.

Teens who are high on marijuana are less able to make safe, smart decisions about sex, including knowing when to say "no."

Marijuana can impair perception and reaction time, putting young drivers and others in danger.

Marijuana use may trigger panic attacks, paranoia, and even psychoses.

Marijuana can impair concentration and the ability to retain information during a teen's peak learning years.

Recent research indicates a correlation between frequent marijuana use and aggressive or violent behavior.

Dr. Jones concludes: MARIJUANA IS ADDICTIVE, and says that more teens are in treatment with a primary diagnosis of marijuana dependence than for all other illicit drugs combined.

Personally, I recall one visitation to a rehabilitation center where we interviewed recovering heroin addicts. We had to interview 25 hard-core drug users before we found a single one who had not started with marijuana!

As for those who say they must rely on marijuana to treat their pain, Dr. Jones cited a Washington University School of Medicine study on the subject: the experiment on twenty young men who were experienced marijuana smokers. Before and after they smoked reefers, electric impulses of different strengths were applied to their fingers and pain thresholds recorded. It was a method that earlier had verified the pain-killing effects of morphine, aspirin and codeine. MARIJUANA NOT ONLY FAILED TO LESSEN PAIN, IT ACTUALLY INCREASED IT! That finding casts doubt on the usefulness of marijuana as an analgesic.

The same facts and conclusions are repeated generation after generation with the same conclusion: DON'T EVER LEGALIZE POT!


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Cancer sufferers would tend to disagree with George here.
1 posted on 06/10/2005 2:32:31 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Note to moderator:

Sorry for the double post. I did not see that the first one had effectively been posted.


my bad!


2 posted on 06/10/2005 2:34:39 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

The arguments are ludicrous. The whole debate is whether pot should be taxed. If it won't be taxed it will be prohibited, which seems a strange thing to do with a weed that grows everywhere. Pot smoking screws up the mind and makes a nation easy pickings, but that is another issue.


3 posted on 06/10/2005 2:36:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (I know nothing, and less every day)
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To: Nachum
. . . that it impairs memory, alters time perception, reduces coordination, damages the immune system, is psychologically habit-forming and creates a wide range of effects on moods and behavior.

Gee, sounds like alcohol. Let's reinstate prohibition.

4 posted on 06/10/2005 2:36:04 PM PDT by ahayes
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To: Nachum

I agree that pot should be illegal, but my objection to the SC case is that this is a matter reserved for the states. The federal law went beyond a reasonable interpretation of the commerce clause.

Heck, under such a broad commerce clause, the 10th Amendment has no meaning.


5 posted on 06/10/2005 2:36:37 PM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: Nachum

All of his points should be irrelevant. Current law dealing with the substance is the result of a much larger & intrusive federal power grab. It took a Constitutional amendment to give the federal government power over alcohol use. What puts all other ingestable things under the thumb of federal power?


6 posted on 06/10/2005 2:45:13 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Nachum

"MARIJUANA NOT ONLY FAILED TO LESSEN PAIN, IT ACTUALLY INCREASED IT!"

this must be why all these chronic pain sufferers swear by the stuff ?
Maybe they are all masochists !?
Anyway , we should all know by now to take the word of 'Studies' over direct experience . What good are our God given senses anyway?


7 posted on 06/10/2005 2:46:17 PM PDT by injin
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To: Stat-boy

I question regulating it for adults, even at the state level. Our governments should not think they have the power to act like our nannies. Educate, rather than legislate!


8 posted on 06/10/2005 2:49:01 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
It's pretty clear that MJ use creates paranoia. Many of its users actually believe there's a conspiracy afoot to use MJ prohibition as an excuse for a massive governmental power grab.

Clue ~ the guys banning MJ already have the power ~ all of it! Their purpose is to ban MJ.

9 posted on 06/10/2005 2:49:03 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Nachum
marijuana is dangerous on many fronts, that it impairs memory, alters time perception, reduces coordination, damages the immune system, is psychologically habit-forming and creates a wide range of effects on moods and behavior.

Ohh what a load of crap.

MJ is - by orders of magnitude - much less dangerous then alcohol. Use any metric you like... damage to health, loss of productivity, crime and antisocial behavior, addiction rates etc. etc.

10 posted on 06/10/2005 2:58:20 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Nachum

The only reason I would like MJ to stay illegal, is because if it was sold by state sanctioned stores, it most prolly would be seedy, stemmy brown mexican shit.


11 posted on 06/10/2005 3:00:13 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Nachum; All

Two questions I'd like someone more knowledgable than I to address:

Has Marijuana ever been medically proven, by studies in accordance with accepted scientifc method, to alleviate symptoms from the various diseases claimed?

If, in fact, the active ingredient in Marijuana (THC, i.e. Tetrahydracannabinol) has been, or can be, proven to be medically effective, is there any reason why the THC cannot be synthesized and administered pharmaceutically in the same fashion narcotics etc. are?

If the answers to these questions are indeed 'yes,' I'd assume the pharmaceutical companies would be salivating about developing a new, and it would seem very marketable (!), arrow for their quiver?

- knightshadow.


12 posted on 06/10/2005 3:02:55 PM PDT by knightshadow
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To: Nachum

This whole medical MJ is just a scam by left-wing leftover hippies to legalize pot so they can smoke it. It has nothing to do with pain killing. There are many more effective pain killers than pot. Any pain killing properties that pot has, can be put into a pill. It would not have to be smoked. Right on George P for having the courage to speak the truth.


13 posted on 06/10/2005 3:05:17 PM PDT by jeffsg4mac
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To: knightshadow
If the answers to these questions are indeed 'yes,' I'd assume the pharmaceutical companies would be salivating about developing a new, and it would seem very marketable (!), arrow for their quiver?

Ahhh... ya see, there you'd be wrong.

Given that THC is a natural occuring compound, it is not patentable.

Much better for the bottom line ($$$) for the pharmas to push strong, physically addictive manmade painkillers.

14 posted on 06/10/2005 3:06:59 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: bikepacker67

Yes, that's a quite plausible answer re the drug companies. But, what about the actual drug itself? Does it work?

- knightshadow.


15 posted on 06/10/2005 3:08:06 PM PDT by knightshadow
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To: Nachum
Sorry for the double post. I did not see that the first one had effectively been posted.

Hitting the weed a bit too hard are we? :@)

16 posted on 06/10/2005 3:09:01 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: Nachum

The war on pot was initially justified by raising the fear that white girls would be seduced by black musicians using pot. The arguements have changed a bit since then, but not much.

OK -- using pot has potential bad consequences for some people.

That is an arguement for not USING pot, and arguement that should be presented to every young person.

That is NOT an arguement for CRIMINALIZATING pot.

Many of us hold two beliefs at the same time without contradiction:
1) Using Drugs, including Pot, is bad.
2) The War on Drugs is worse.

I am past 60, and I still haven't heard a good approach for discouraging vices (e.g., use of pot, tobacco, alcohol, prostitution, promiscuous gay sex, etc.) which do not create worse consequences than the vices being discouraged.

The war on pot has killed more people and destroyed more lives (e.g., due to mandatory minimum sentences for simple drug possession) than the pot would have if left alone and discouraged with education. It has resulted in the formation of a police state, and the loss of rights, the loss of restraints placed on the government by the Constitution. It has resulted in the waste of billions of dollars extracted from taxpayers at the point of a gun. It has resulted in the corruption of the justice system, from cops to prosecuters to judges to legislators.

It is time to look at ways of reducing harm, not exchanging the "use of drugs" harm for another which is much worse.



17 posted on 06/10/2005 3:11:33 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: ahayes

Gee, sounds like alcohol. Let's reinstate prohibition.



don't laugh and don't look.
they are working on it via state legislation and highway funds... incrementally.

the prohibitionists in government I have known all believe that the new superdatabase of the patriot act, biometric driver's licenses, facial recognition and automated electronic medical records interface, as it is used more and more by law enforcement, will eventually be able to effectively prohibit all forms of vice like: cigarettes, booze, and many many others...

And they intend to make significant progress within the next five years. and they intend to do so... incrementally.

so much for Reagan's smaller government malarky.


18 posted on 06/10/2005 3:13:54 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the governent's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: RightWhale
Fifty years ago, as a much younger television reporter,

His opinion is based on 50 year old science? Wasn't the moon thought to be made of cheese back then?

19 posted on 06/10/2005 3:27:22 PM PDT by Lance Romance
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To: All
My father was a heavy dope smoker until I was 15. He and his friends pretty much fit the description in the article. I'm not in favor of legalizing it because it would be as problematic as alcohol if it was as widely used and alcohol is by far the most destructive drug in the US in terms of overall impact.

I think the whole pain relief argument is an obvious smokescreen (bad pun).

I don't like the federal power grab but hey there isn't much republic left in our republic anyway.
20 posted on 06/10/2005 3:31:38 PM PDT by bluetone006 (Peace)
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To: Nachum

Well I used to be libertarian about the subject, as long no one else is harmed then let people ruin their brains.

But one day I happened to watch a movie that changed my life. Everyone needs to see Reefer Madness to know how evil this killer weed is. I still wake up in cold sweats reliving in my dream that dememted druggie yelling "faster faster" to a drugged up female playing piano.

Never will try that demon weed, I get high the safe way by huffing gasoline out of a paper bag.


21 posted on 06/10/2005 3:37:14 PM PDT by Swiss
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To: Robert_Paulson2
don't laugh and don't look. they are working on it via state legislation and highway funds... incrementally. the prohibitionists in government I have known all believe that the new superdatabase of the patriot act, biometric driver's licenses, facial recognition and automated electronic medical records interface, as it is used more and more by law enforcement, will eventually be able to effectively prohibit all forms of vice like: cigarettes, booze, and many many others... And they intend to make significant progress within the next five years. and they intend to do so... incrementally. Dude - a little too much weed me thinks. There is no grand conspiracy in the federal government. I spent many years working in the very middle of it - it is just a vast collection of folks from every political persuasion.
22 posted on 06/10/2005 3:38:35 PM PDT by bluetone006 (Peace)
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To: muawiyah

Course they have the power. Sometimes it's good to remind our fellow citizens that they have that power, cuz we let them have that power. Maybe my fellow citizens don't have a problem with it, because it's not their ox getting gored by it.

MJ is not my ox, but I know a goring when I see one. My ox was a toddler that got an earache on a weekend. His eardrum ruptured, green stuff was oozing out & he was spiking a high temp. His mother took him to a hospital emergency room. After waiting hours, a doctor finally looked at the child & witnessed the worst ear infection that he had ever seen. Because he didn't have the child's chart & couldn't trust the mother's account of the child's history of ear aches, he sent the child home without treating him!!! When the mother could finally get the child seen by his usual doctor, the doctor prescribed the medicine, in the dose that was refused from the emergency room doctor. That antibiotic prescription allowed refills & I'm talking about a multi-spectrum antibiotic, not your basic amoxicillin. If you do now know how rare that is, ask any pharmasict if they've ever seen one.

Take into account the extra suffering by that young child & add what correct treatment cost that family... No, I am not that mother. A bunch of old hippys wanna get high, that's no big deal, in face of the rest of the issue.


23 posted on 06/10/2005 3:40:33 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Nachum
Fifty years ago, as a much younger television reporter, I did a series of interviews with Dr. Hardin B. Jones, Professor of Medical Physics and Physiology at the University of California Berkeley

ROTFLMAO!!!
I remember Putnam ranting about the evil Mexican narcotic MAR I JUNAAAA from the podium. He showed all those old propaganda clips from the thirties and forties on TV. Great entertainment! I even remember the somber Dr. Hardin Jones!

Old Doc Jones was quite a guy. He became infamous with his cancer treatments. Remember "World Without Cancer"? The vitamin B-17, also known as Laetrile, hoax caused hundreds, if not thousands of deaths, when cancer patients flocked to the new "miracle cure". Dr. Hardin Jones, of Putnam fame, was the pusher of that worthless quack remedy!

Doctor Jones is a quack and so is George Putnam!
...
24 posted on 06/10/2005 3:40:40 PM PDT by mugs99
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To: Lance Romance

No.


25 posted on 06/10/2005 3:41:38 PM PDT by RightWhale (I know nothing, and less every day)
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To: ahayes

Did you hear that??? Teddy (shipface) Kennedy just fell off his throne at that suggestion.....

Take booze away from a Kennedy at your own risk.......




/s off :-)
Semper Fi


26 posted on 06/10/2005 3:44:15 PM PDT by halfright (9/11 3,000 Americans MURDERED...close the borders!)
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To: Swiss
That's stupid ~ all you need to do is get a small "party size" sample can of a modern automotive paint.

No bag is needed.

Stuff's great until you need a new liver.

27 posted on 06/10/2005 3:46:14 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: mugs99

Yessirreebob, Medical Marijuana is the new Laetrile for a new age!


28 posted on 06/10/2005 3:47:20 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Nachum

However bad for you pot may be, I would question where they got their data that pot increased aggressive or violent behavior. Not.


29 posted on 06/10/2005 3:51:50 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: muawiyah
ROFL! Lame reply, Dude. Your experts are quacks and that's a fact! Bossa nova no cafe?
...
30 posted on 06/10/2005 3:52:14 PM PDT by mugs99
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To: Sender

You've forgotten haven't you?


31 posted on 06/10/2005 3:53:02 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: bluetone006
My father was a heavy dope smoker until I was 15.

Your father didn't drink while he was smoking pot?

32 posted on 06/10/2005 3:58:31 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Mack the knife
Many people would consider your position to be too liberal, as if substance use & abuse dropped out of the sky some time in the 1960's. Before the concern about young white girls' panties, was the attempt to regulate Mexican immigration by some states in the west.

I am past 60, and I still haven't heard a good approach for discouraging vices

The right kind of teaching about faith is as good as it gets.

33 posted on 06/10/2005 4:21:45 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: jeffsg4mac

By William F. Buckley
6-24-00


Peter McWilliams is dead.

Age? Fifty.

Profession? Author, poet, publisher.

Particular focus of interest? A federal judge in California (George King) would decide in a few weeks how long a sentence to hand down, and whether to send McWilliams to prison or let him serve his sentence at home.

What was his offense? He collaborated in growing marijuana plants.

What was his defense? Well, the judge wouldn't allow him to plead his defense to the jury. If given a chance, the defense would have argued that under Proposition 215, passed into California constitutional law in 1996, infirm Californians who got medical relief from marijuana were permitted to use it. The judge also forbade any mention that McWilliams suffered from AIDS and cancer, and got relief from the marijuana.

What was he doing when he died? Vomiting. The vomiting hit him while in his bathtub, and he choked to death. Was there nothing he might have done to still the impulse to vomit? Yes, he could have taken marijuana; but the judge's bail terms forbade him to do so, and he submitted to weekly urine tests to confirm that he was living up to the terms of his bail.

Did anybody take note of the risk he was undergoing? He took Marinol -- a proffered, legal substitute, but reported after using it that it worked for him only about one-third of the time. When it didn't work, he vomited.

Was there no public protest against the judge's ruling? Yes. On June 9, the television program 20/20 devoted a segment to the McWilliams plight. Commentator John Stossel summarized: "McWilliams is out of prison on the condition that he not smoke marijuana, but it was the marijuana that kept him from vomiting up his medication. I can understand that the federal drug police don't agree with what some states have decided to do about medical marijuana, but does that give them the right to just end-run those laws and lock people up?"


Shortly after the trial last year, Charles Levendosky, writing in the Ventura County (Calif.) Star, summarized: "The cancer treatment resulted in complete remission." But only the marijuana gave him sustained relief from the vomiting that proved mortal.

Is it being said, in plain language, that the judge's obstinacy resulted in killing McWilliams? Yes. A Libertarian Party press release has made exactly that charge. "McWilliams was prohibited from using medical marijuana -- and being denied access to the drug's anti-nausea properties almost certainly caused his death." Reflecting on the judge's refusal to let the jury know that there was understandable reason for McWilliams to believe he was acting legally, I ended a column in November by writing, "So, the fate of Peter McWilliams is in the hands of Judge King. Perhaps the cool thing for him to do is delay a ruling for a few months, and just let Peter McWilliams die." Well, that happened on June 14.

The struggle against a fanatical imposition of federal laws on marijuana will continue, as also on the question whether federal laws can stifle state initiatives. Those who believe the marijuana laws are insanely misdirected have a martyr.

Peter was a wry, mythogenic guy, humorous, affectionate, articulate, shrewd, sassy. He courted anarchy at the moral level. His most recent book (his final book) was called Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do. We were old friends, and I owe my early conversion to word processing to his guidebook on how to do it. Over the years we corresponded, and he would amiably twit my conservative opinions.


When I judged him to have gone rampant on his own individualistic views in his book, I wrote him to that effect. I cherish his reply -- nice acerbic deference, the supreme put-down:

"Please remember the Law of Relativity as applied to politics: In order for you to be right, at least someone else must be wrong. Your rightness is only shown in relation to the other's wrongness. Conversely, your rightness is necessary for people like me to look truly wrong. Before Bach, people said of bad organ music, `That's not quite right.' After Bach, people said flatly, `That's wrong.' This allowed dedicated composers to grow, and cast the neophytes back to writing how-to-be-happy music. So, thank me for my wrongness, as so many reviews of my book will doubtless say, `People should read more of a truly great political commentator: William F. Buckley Jr.' "


Imagine such a spirit ending its life at 50, just because they wouldn't let him have a toke. We have to console ourselves with the comment of the two prosecutors. They said they were "saddened" by Peter McWilliams' death. Many of us are -- by his death...and by the causes of it.

_____

Buckley is a nationally syndicated columnist based in New York.



34 posted on 06/10/2005 5:10:37 PM PDT by MRMEAN ("On the Internet nobody knows that you're a dog")
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To: MRMEAN
That is one of the saddest pieces I've read. I wonder if that pig-headed judge can sleep at night. I sure hope he can't and that his guilty consience follows him to the grave.
35 posted on 06/10/2005 5:39:39 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: knightshadow
I am no expert on current research, but here are a few sources of information on medical research and the denial of requests for medical research:

MAPS (Medical Marijuana Research
http://www.maps.org/mmj/

Government Finally Allows Marijuana-for-AIDS Study(1998)
http://www.mpp.org/archive/abrams98.html

Canada Approves Cannabis Medication Sativex® For Use By Multiple Sclerosis Patients
http://www.medicalmj.org/canasat.htm

Just a few. There are more. The Feds say it doesn't work, other research says different. The users say different too. http://www.glaucoma.org/treating/treatment/marijuana.html

36 posted on 06/10/2005 5:48:16 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Your kidding right, because they need morphine to make it, not marijuana.


37 posted on 06/10/2005 5:51:34 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Nachum

Sometimes, books get me to change my views. John Stossel's book "Gimme a Break" convinced me of the silliness of banning marijuana. Adults should be treated as adults. That means if you want to abuse your health, that's your right.

That also means if you want welfare, tough luck. Able-bodied adults should be able to care for themselves.


38 posted on 06/10/2005 5:53:35 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: RightWhale

RightWhale says "The arguments are ludicrous."

The argument against pot are long as is their history. They are not lidicrous, just not something to hear if you have a pro-drug agenda.

Here's a little bit about pot and schitophrenia for you to chew on while you call this also ludacrous.

I bet you love how George checked out all these heavy drug users and they all started with pot. DING DING DING.

http://www.jhunewsletter.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/04/11/3e95e7d8a6ea7


39 posted on 06/10/2005 5:55:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GoLightly
"What puts all other ingestable things under the thumb of federal power? "

Some people's lack of common sense. Or desire to get high out of stupidity perhaps!

40 posted on 06/10/2005 5:57:29 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jeffsg4mac

Yeah, many pain killers far better, and less addictive than pot...

Let's see...

Oxycotin (Check)
Vicodin (Check)
Morphine (Check)

ah....


41 posted on 06/10/2005 6:01:02 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: bikepacker67
You have to add a barf alert to that kind of post.

Only those that abuse alcohol are trouble.
For the most part, alcohol is a food purifier mentioned even in the Bible directly with food. It is also a known blood thinner.

If used in moderation or less it isn't an issue, whereas pot goes directly to the brain faster than an injection.
Don't believe me?
Go look up what is considered a faster passage to the brain, the lungs or the injection. You will be surprised.

The stomach with alcohol is a much slower way in, you can have food with it and it hits a whole different area of the brain.

They are NOT similar. Though you are right that people who abuse it, like any recreational drug users should suffer the consequences.
42 posted on 06/10/2005 6:01:59 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: muawiyah

I've never seen anyone become violent or aggressive due to use of pot.


43 posted on 06/10/2005 6:06:11 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: mugs99

Yeah, and Putnam for the last 20 years was screaming about illegal immigration from the south.

He seems always right, doesn't he.


44 posted on 06/10/2005 6:07:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mugs99

Wow, so fifty years ago, George also found the same thing we find today with our violent offenders in state prison, that almost all violent offenders use pot in connection with their other drugs or it was their gateway drug...

More of what we all already know.


45 posted on 06/10/2005 6:09:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Sender

Our prisons are filled with violent offenders. But they hardly stop with pot Sender, what they do is mix pot with all kinds of junk then go out and kill or do other nasty stuff.
It's better to avoid it altogether IMO.


46 posted on 06/10/2005 6:10:34 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Lord_Baltar

Those kinds of things are needed for people with cancer who are going to die or for those with bad backs where the disks have permanently damaged nerves who wish they were already dead.

Those poor people will have no life. It's a tough break.


47 posted on 06/10/2005 6:12:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

That's probably true, better to avoid it altogether. However I don't think there should be anyone in prison, learning violent and criminal ways, just for possession of pot.


48 posted on 06/10/2005 6:16:29 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Sender
Interesting that all of the people in prison for nothing more than MJ possession are so few that we could probably list them in less than a page.

These guys are all dirty, and the way the MJ gets on their rap sheet is they plea bargain down to it.

49 posted on 06/10/2005 6:19:11 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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If someone possesses a little, it's a ticket most places. If you go into business selling it, or if you are growing a substantial amount of it, you will be in jail and that is reasonable IMO. People need to make good choices in life.
50 posted on 06/10/2005 6:20:52 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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