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Kerry's Vietnam (Boston Globe painted into a Corner)
Boston Glob ^ | 6/10/05 | GLOBE EDITORIAL

Posted on 06/10/2005 6:34:31 PM PDT by bitt

DESPITE THE continuing gripes of his critics, records released this week show that Senator John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam. The documents should put to rest claims that Kerry misrepresented his military record in the presidential race. But Kerry's failure to respond to the smear campaign launched against him last summer lent credibility to its real objective: to impugn his equally honorable opposition to the war.

John O'Neill, a Houston lawyer and Kerry's adversary on the war since 1971, acknowledged as much in a telephone interview Wednesday. ''We produced seven commercials," he said of his anti-Kerry group, now called Swift Vets and POWs for Truth. ''Only one dealt with Vietnam activities." O'Neill was incensed by Kerry's memorable testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971, in which the young veteran, clad in a combat shirt, criticized the war.

Kerry has said that he may have used a poor choice of words when he cited other veterans' reports of atrocities as being ''in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." But his basic analysis was sound: Vietnamese and Americans were dying needlessly because the war was a mistake, and US policymakers allowed it to continue even though they were aware that their strategy for victory was failing.

The Swift Boat ads ....snip

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


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(get your barf bags - ready? GO!)

...made much of the plight of US pilots captured by the North Vietnamese -- and most were horribly treated by their captors. But these men languished in prison for years in part because the US government failed to follow Kerry's advice to end an unwinnable war.

snip...

O'Neill said he didn't think the election should have hinged on either candidate's war record, and he's right that Bush's choice was typical of many in his generation. It is Kerry's choice that was atypical.

The records Kerry allowed to be released this week show that his commanders in Vietnam called him ''one of the finest young officers with whom I have served," and ''the acknowledged leader of his peer group. " His stand against the war only confirmed these qualities.

1 posted on 06/10/2005 6:34:31 PM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt

At first I thought you were posting a parody----"Boston Glob" is a good name for it!


2 posted on 06/10/2005 6:36:43 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: johnny7; TomGuy; maryz; Lonesome in Massachussets; JLO; gidget7; nopardons; Kenny Bunk; GianniV; ...

Really offensive editorial from the Glob about Kerry:

he's vindicated and shouldn't be hated for trying to end the Vietnam war while George Bush 'supported it at Yale, but after graduation he chose reserve duty that kept him out of combat.'


3 posted on 06/10/2005 6:39:15 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: bitt
Kerry was in Vietnam?
Why did`nt that come out in the last election?

Sorry John but wars are not photo ops or resume builders.

4 posted on 06/10/2005 6:39:57 PM PDT by carlr
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To: bitt

"Vietnamese and Americans were dying needlessly because the war was a mistake"

As opposed to the vietnamese that died after the war was over, right?

Somehow liberals think that if a despotic government kills people, it didn't really happen. Just like they forget about all the mass graves in Iraq from Saddam.


5 posted on 06/10/2005 6:40:18 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: bitt
DESPITE THE continuing gripes of his critics, records released this week show that Senator John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam.

Besides Kerry's college transcript, what was released? Or does his transcrips somehow prove kerry served honorably.

6 posted on 06/10/2005 6:42:43 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: bitt; All

There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

WAKEUP AMERICA!

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html

And the FBI has proof of his treason.

Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files

May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.

(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS

Distribute these url's!

Links to Anti Kerry sites
212 LINKS
News reports,
Viper's Vietnam Veterans Page

http://members.aol.com/ga1449ga/links/links.html


EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!

MUST SEE WEBSITE!!!!

http://www.kerrystreason.com/index.html

Full details on these url's!

http://stophanoikerry.150m.com

There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

Did you see this...?
(The 'Kerry's Promise Counter')
http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=6628
Polipundit even tells you how to install it on your own page!

Swift Boat Veteran For Truth John O'Neill Comments on Kerry's 180 'Release'
6/7/05
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418592/posts

John Kerry was dishonorably dismissed from the Navy:
(statement from lawyers there at the time)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1406760/posts


7 posted on 06/10/2005 6:43:06 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On" FReepers! They want Hanoi Kerry to get a "free pass" mmmm Wonder Why?)
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To: bitt

What about the records Kerry didn't allow to be released?


8 posted on 06/10/2005 6:44:42 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: bitt
I wonder if the Glob even realizes that Kerry evidently did NOT release all of his military records...

They were shamefully used by the Kerry people. I wonder if they even care...

9 posted on 06/10/2005 6:44:46 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: bitt

"served honorably in vietnam"? 3 months. everyone was there 12 or 13.

it's not his vietnam records he's hiding, it's his paris meetings afterwards, and his discharge that carter upgraded.


10 posted on 06/10/2005 6:44:54 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: I still care

Genocide in Africa? There ain't no stinkin' genocide in Africa. All they need is rich musicians to have a rock conert and dupe the working folks into donating money for something that can't really be defined.


11 posted on 06/10/2005 6:46:27 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: bitt
Some respect for his "Band of Brothers":


12 posted on 06/10/2005 6:46:59 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Mears; All

'At first I thought you were posting a parody----"'

The bias and blatant disregard for their mission (report the news, comment appropriately) in this editorial at first made me THINK it was a parody, coming so quickly upon their disgraceful attempt to whitewash the story on Kerry's records...

Anyone with time on their hands could call these bozos...

And switch to the Boston Herald and the NY Post and the Washington Times, too.




Ombudsman
(617) 929-3020
ombud@globe.com

Editorial Pages
(617) 929-3025


13 posted on 06/10/2005 6:47:28 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: bitt

pure swill from the Globe. Kranish is behind this. He was the official Boston Globe Kerry butt wipe from the 2004 election. They keep repeating the same old war hero trash over and over.

The facts: kerry signed some of his records over to the globe and the rest of us will never see his records.


14 posted on 06/10/2005 6:49:34 PM PDT by putupjob
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; All

thanks, Tonk...you're always right there with the info.

Several of us keep ping lists for the Kerry Watch...

on or off, let us know by FR Mail.



15 posted on 06/10/2005 6:49:40 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: Mears

I like Boston Bulb!


16 posted on 06/10/2005 6:52:07 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: bitt

I have realized that the only reason Kerry delayed authorizing the release of these records is that he was negotiating with the Defense Department demanding that they sanitize his record before release. That appears to be the only plausible explanation for the delay.


17 posted on 06/10/2005 6:55:13 PM PDT by ontos-on
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To: okie01
"I wonder if the Glob even realizes that Kerry evidently did NOT release all of his military records..."

The Globe editor knows full well that Kerry won't and never will submit a 180 for release of his full military record. And they don't care, either. They will keep covering for him and they will keep on attacking and misrepresenting O'Neill and anybody else who wonders why Kerry won't do what Bush was not afraid to do -- submit the 180.

18 posted on 06/10/2005 6:55:54 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: dead; bitt

Of course we ALL know who Kerry's REAL 'Band of Brothers' were...


19 posted on 06/10/2005 6:56:41 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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To: All
Kerry's wartime service and his equally honorable opposition to the war

Meeting with and advocating the enemy's conditions for peace in testimony before a U.S. Senate committee is honorable?!

Lies about our military before that same committee is honorable?!

20 posted on 06/10/2005 6:58:12 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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