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Immigration's U.S. Rep. Tancredo's Top Topic
The Manchester Union Leader ^ | June 12, 2005 | Dan McLean

Posted on 06/12/2005 5:49:59 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan

U. S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, a vocal critic of President Bush's immigration policy, announced he would run for President in 2008 - if he could not find a more viable candidate to adopt his views on illegal immigration.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: New Hampshire
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President Bush's immigration policies deserve strong criticism. This nation's borders are not secure. The solution to our unsecured borders is not to give amnesty to illegal aliens as Sen. McCain and Sen. Brownback wish to do.

This article by the Manchester Union Leader is well written.

1 posted on 06/12/2005 5:50:00 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan
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2 posted on 06/12/2005 5:53:22 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

Go Tom go!


3 posted on 06/12/2005 5:54:54 PM PDT by blackeagle
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
“If no one will take this banner up (illegal immigration) — and I say this with great trepidation — yeah, I will.

And you'll get my vote, Mr. Tancredo. The situation is an absolute inexplicable travesty. I'm a conservative and I like President Bush, but he, as well as the Attorney General and all members of congress, have failed miserably to uphold their responsibility to protect our borders. THEY ALL NEED TO BE REPLACED! For every one terrorist we kill in Iraq ten El Salvatorian terrorists arrive in Los Angeles. ENOUGH !!! THEY ALL NEED TO BE REPLACED!

4 posted on 06/12/2005 6:04:19 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

Wonderful.


5 posted on 06/12/2005 6:09:48 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

It's unbelieveable that Tom Tancredo is alone in Washington in this fight. He deserves the support of every American who cares about the future of our country.


6 posted on 06/12/2005 6:12:05 PM PDT by RedRover (The thing that walks like a man.)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
Yeah, I saw you the other day. I asked you if I could have a copy of what you were passing out and you didn't seem to hear me. Hideous dwarf with a vestigial tail wearing black jeans, black Ft. Hood shirt, black cap with an eagle on it.

That was a great rally Phil Valentine got together. Thanks for showing up and drumming up support.

7 posted on 06/12/2005 6:19:49 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
"Many who enter the country illegally are just looking for jobs, Tancredo said, but others are “coming to kill you"

The election is three years away and already he's moderating his position to say that laborers aren't the problem, only murderers. .

.

"the congressman said criticizing “guest worker plans” and amnesty programs. "

While forgetting that he has already introduced his own bill to establish a guest worker plan. He'll be supporting Bush's plan soon and opposing McCain's and Cornyn's because they are both potential presidential candidates

Kool-aide anyone?

8 posted on 06/12/2005 6:33:54 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: bayourod
Once America is 40% Illegal Alien...mara salvatrucha MS-13,rapists, murderers,kidnappers,thieves,narco terrorist,chi com guerrilla,Cuban-Venezuelan sleeper agents,al Qaeda/Hezbollah/Hamas Wahhabists...

We will have the Reichstag Fire needed to take all our guns away..

Naturally those who desire to own slaves or work serfs for slave wages could really care less what happens to America the family or the middle class..

If Illegal aliens are the Republican Parties last best hope then staying in power is all it really cares about and it is NO different then the Democrat Party...just a little bit slicker hustle...and little conservative window dressing for the rubes..

America was filled with those types back in 1776 they were called Tories..

Here is your Homies...ROD

What you and your ilk desire for my country

Ya like apples...ROD?


9 posted on 06/12/2005 6:53:04 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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To: bayourod

Go to hell....


10 posted on 06/12/2005 7:17:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: NewRomeTacitus

I'm sorry I missed you at the rally.

I brought five hundred (500) brochures to the rally and they were all gone before the rally was half over.

For the next rally, I will bring two thousand (2,000) brochures.

I will make it a point to find you at the next rally.


11 posted on 06/12/2005 7:19:34 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: bayourod

Cong. Tancredo will not be supporting President Bush's plan to give amnesty to illegal aliens. Cong. Tancredo opposes any legislation that gives legal status to illegal aliens.


12 posted on 06/12/2005 7:21:26 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: joesnuffy

Thank you for psoting the information about MS-13.


13 posted on 06/12/2005 7:22:50 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: RedRover

Cong. Tancredo does deserve the support of every American who cares about the future of our country. I have been very impressed with Cong. Hayworth's recent stateemnts regarding illegal immigration. He seems to have the same commitment to our country's future that Cong. Tancredo does.


14 posted on 06/12/2005 7:25:19 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: Dane
The megalomaniac is once again trying to get attention. I guess back stabbing Tom Delay wasn't enough. Thankfully, he doesn't stand a chance in 2008. The Republican base is not going to select anyone who is best known only two things, attacking President Bush and attacking Tom Delay.

Too bad Tancredo and his worshipers can't figure out that the American people are not going to vote for a candidate that runs on this one issue. It didn't work for his master Buchanan and it isn't going to work for Tancredo.

The worst part is the guy is stupid and crazy enough to run as a third party candidate and give the election to Hillary. Then again, I'm sure his followers wouldn't mind that. After all, most of them think that Hillary is on the same page as Tancredo.

17 posted on 06/12/2005 7:48:37 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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"Tancredo opposes any legislation that gives legal status to illegal aliens. "

Tancredo is the author and sponsor of HR3534:
HR 3534 Establishes a new guest worker program that replaces the current H nonimmigrant visa category with a single H visa covering all aliens coming to the United States temporarily to perform skilled or unskilled work, where U.S. workers are not available.

18 posted on 06/12/2005 7:51:32 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: COEXERJ145

"After all, most of them think that Hillary is on the same page as Tancredo."

Sorry, sahib, I don't getcha. Hilary and Tancredo are in different libraries altogether.


19 posted on 06/12/2005 8:00:33 PM PDT by RedRover (The thing that walks like a man.)
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To: bayourod

Maybe you don't understand the difference between legal aliens and illegal aliens. Cong. Tancredo's legislation allows legal aliens to come to the United States to work. The McCain-Kennedy amnesty proposal allows illegal aliens to earn citizenship. The Kyle-Cornyn amnesty plan and the Bush amnesty plan each give legal status to illegal aliens. Cong. Tancredo's plan does not give legal status to illegal aliens.


20 posted on 06/12/2005 8:01:55 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: COEXERJ145

I don't know any supporters of Cong. Tancredo that think Hillary is on the same page as Cong. Tancredo. I do know that Sen. Clinton supported the Craig-Kennedy amnesty bill for illegal alien agricultural workers. Sen. McCain and Sen. Hagel both supported that amnesty bill for illegal aliens. It seems as though both those senators are on the same page as her with regard to amnesty for illegal aliens.

Cong. Tancredo is a solid conservative. He is rated 0% by NARAL. He is rated B+ by the NRA. He is rated 84% by the National Taxpayers Union, indicating a "Taxpayer's Friend" on tax votes. He has a lifetime score of 98 by The American Conservative Union.

Cong. Tancredo's positions on immigration are supported by a majority of the American people. Giving amnesty to illegal aliens is not supported by a majority of the American people.

Cong. Tancredo is not leaving the Republican Party. Sen. McCain and any other Republican that supports amnesty for illegal aliens is stabbing the American people in the back.


21 posted on 06/12/2005 8:20:30 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
"Tancredo's plan does not give legal status to illegal aliens. "

There is no list of "illegal aliens". All one would have to do is apply for a guest laborer visa while back in Mexico for Christmas holidays.

Even those who entered legally and stayed after their legal period expired are not on any list because CPB does not keep up with who exits the country.

Tancredo's followers are as much in denial as Buchanan's were. If Tancredo named a MS13 LaRaza leader as his VP his followers would probably reconcile it just like Buchanan's followers did when he named a communist leader.

22 posted on 06/12/2005 8:22:59 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: RedRover
He deserves the support of every American who cares about the future of our country.

I honestly agree with that, and he will get my support if he runs.

23 posted on 06/12/2005 8:24:04 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
Cong. Tancredo's positions on immigration are supported by a majority of the American people. Giving amnesty to illegal aliens is not supported by a majority of the American people.

Tancredo is a good man but I do expect him to be attacked mercilessly should he run. McCain supporters are already trying to setup the doomsday scenario of intimidating conservatives with the "it's either him or Hillary" strawman argument.

24 posted on 06/12/2005 8:30:44 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

Here come all the pro-illegals. Now lets watch them explain how "adamantly against illegal immigration" they are as the simultaneously attack any and all who dont support the virtual open border Bush line.


25 posted on 06/12/2005 8:57:38 PM PDT by mthom
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To: bayourod
The supporters of Cong. Tancredo are not in denial. However, you apparently are.

In the "about" section for bayourod, you state that
"[l]abor unions are another obvious group that has always fought immigrant labor and now sees an opportunity to co-opt the anti-illegals movement.

I don't know where you have been for the last five (5) years, but the next sentence contains a news flash for you.
The AFL-CIO has been supporting amnesty for illegal aliens since February 2000. Here is a link to a February 16, 2000, press release by the AFL-CIO supporting amnesty for illegal aliens.
26 posted on 06/12/2005 9:05:39 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

Here is the link: http://www.aflcio.org/mediacenter/prsptm/pr02162000d.cfm .


27 posted on 06/12/2005 9:07:21 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: Travis McGee

He'll get my vote and the votes of many Repubs , independents and even Dems on this subject.

As I predicted, Alberto Gonzalez was a bad choice, although he is mirroring the views of Bush II, who apparently has no problem with the United States becoming a Latin American nation.


28 posted on 06/12/2005 9:19:15 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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I don't think that Congressman Tancredo has a chance at either the nomination or the presidency, but I'd give him a protest vote to show the rest of the party that I agree with his stance on illegal immigration. I'm tired of paying for healthcare and education for these people just so dishonest businessmen can have labor at below-market prices.

Bill

29 posted on 06/12/2005 9:29:17 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: ZULU
Cong. Tancredo will do well in the 2008 Republican primaries. A majority of Republicans, Democrats and Independents support the immigration positions of Cong. Tancredo.
30 posted on 06/12/2005 9:34:27 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan; ZULU
If the Quislings have as much of an "inside track" with the Republican party as they have on this forum, I'm not hopeful about the chances of defending our Constitution or national sovereignty for many more years.

Quisling: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

31 posted on 06/12/2005 10:25:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: bayourod
Lots of knee jerk and mongering responses to your perfectly reasonable post. Typical.

Tancredo is tainted Nationally. He's a non-issue.

32 posted on 06/12/2005 10:32:21 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Travis McGee
We had at least fifteen hundred (1,500) people in attendance at an anti-illegal immigration rally in Nashville, Tennessee, on Thursday night. I wore a Tancredo for Persident 2008 sticker on my shirt and received many positive comments about Cong. Tancredo.
Cong. Tancredo already has a solid following among conservative Republicans.
33 posted on 06/12/2005 11:04:39 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

Great Tom, glad to have you in the race.


34 posted on 06/12/2005 11:07:33 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
We'll soon find out if the Republican Party is totally in the bag for the open borders elites.

Judging by the numbers of Quislings tolerated on this *conservative* forum, I have grave doubts about the national party leadership.

35 posted on 06/12/2005 11:15:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Listen to what Tancredo has stated - corporate backers of the Republican party want cheap labor, and the Dems want the illegal votes. Give a Democrat a body and they'll find some way to register it - illegal or not.

John McCain and the evil six associates of his are Quislings.

Senator Martin of Florida is a Quisling - he went over to the Dems on Guantanamo.

Some Representative from North Carolina - a Republican and former supporter of the Persian Gulf War is now stating it was a mistake to have gone in, Bush should "apologize" and "explain' to the American people why we went in, and we should set up a timetable to get out.

What's going on with the Republicans in Washington is nothing short of incredible.

THEY won a majority in Congress, NOT the Dems. THEY won the Presidency, not the Dems.

The heart of Republican social and fiscal philosophy represents the majority opinion of most Americans on immigration as well other issues - that's why they were elected.

Yet Republicans still pander to the Dems and to the media as though they LOST.

I don't get it. The problem isn't with our message, but with a lot of the messengers.

Unless the Republican Party as a whole can get its act together, deliver on its message and punish adequately those quislings in its own ranks like John McCain, they are going to loose next time around. And the time will have arrrived for a fresh new party of opposition to appear - one more able and committed to deal with the socialists and crypto-communist one-worlders in the Democrat Party.


37 posted on 06/12/2005 11:38:41 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Travis McGee
The majority of the American people do not support the immigration policies of the Bush administration. The American people overwhelmingly want our borders secured and enforced. Our southern border has been and is an absolute joke under the Bush administration. Yet more evidence of that fact was the videos of illegal aliens at the Arizona border shown on Hannity & Colmes during the time of the Minutemen patrols.

Those who support rewarding illegal aliens with legal status don't want Cong. Tancredo's message to be heard. Unfortunately for them, it is going to be heard. Cong. Tancredo's opposition to the McCain-Kennedy amnesty plan for illegal aliens will provide the American public an opportunity to see the differences between him and other potential 2008 Republican presidential primary entrants such as Sen. McCain, Sen. Brownback and Sen. Hagel. All of them support amnesty for illegal aliens.
41 posted on 06/13/2005 12:06:47 AM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: Travis McGee
More and more Republicans involved in national politics are willing to separate themselves from the policies of President Bush that reward illegal aliens. Any amnesty plan that President Bush sends to Congress will not pass the United States House of Representatives. Whether it is called amnesty, doesn't matter. Any plan that gives legal status to illegal aliens is dead on arrival in the United States House of Representatives. The House version of the McCain-Kennedy amnesty plan for illegal aliens will go nowhere fast.
42 posted on 06/13/2005 12:14:08 AM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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You're dreaming. Something like sixty two million Americans, most of whom are Republicans (you know, those idiot quislings you and the other Tancredo fans love to hate) just reelected Bush to a second term, and they knew damned well what his policy on the border was. I sincerely doubt that the Mexican border policy will be the major issue of the next presidential election. Tancredo won't be running against Bush anyway. If he wants the Republican nomination for president, I'm guessing he'd better find a way to best Cheney, Rice, Allen, McCain, et al, in the REPUBLICAN primaries without pissing on the Republican base. Good luck.

Anyone but McCain though. Go Tancredo!!


43 posted on 06/13/2005 12:35:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: bayourod
There is no list of "illegal aliens". All one would have to do is apply for a guest laborer visa while back in Mexico for Christmas holidays.

That's exactly what opponents of illegal immigration want to happen, for foreigners who want to come to the U.S. as a guest worker to apply from their home countries.

44 posted on 06/13/2005 1:06:00 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: Jim Robinson
You are very wrong about me hating sixty-two million (62,000,000) Americans that voted for President Bush. I am glad those Americans voted for President Bush and not Sen. Kerry. I certainly wanted President Bush to defeat Sen. Kerry. I did not want Sen. Kerry to appoint judges to the United States Supreme Court or any other court. I think the appointment of judges was one of the important reasons why this country needed to have President Bush reelected. I think he has done a very good job in appointing judges.

Those Americans did know "damned well" what President Bush's policy on the border was. However, Bush voters concerned with border security knew they had a choice between a Republican candidate whose border policy was terrible and a Democratic candidate whose border policy would have been just as bad and probably worse. President Bush was most certainly not reelected because a majority of his voters agreed with his border policy.

Immigration and border security were rarely mentioned by either candidate. The only time that I remember immigration being mentioned in the debates was when Bob Schieffer asked a question about it in what was I believe the final debate. He prefaced his question by saying the issue that he had received the most e-mail about was immigration.

Poll after poll have indicated that a majority of the American people do not agree with President Bush's immigration policies. An NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey was conducted among 1005 adults between May 12-16, 2005. Respondents to the survey were asked their opinion of President Bush's proposal "to allow foreigners who have jobs but are staying illegally in the United States to apply for legal, temporary-worker status." Only thirteen percent (13%) of poll respondents favored this proposal, while twenty-five percent somewhat favored this proposal. However, thirty-nine percent (39%) of poll respondents strongly opposed this proposal. Nineteen percent (19%) of poll respondents somewhat opposed this proposal.

With regard to your list of potential candidates for the Republican nomination that Cong. Tancredo "better find a way to best . . . without pissing on the Republican base," I believe that Cong. Tancredo would welcome the opportunity to debate immigration policy with any of them. I do not believe Vice-President Cheney will run. However, if he does, I would enjoy seeing he and Cong. Tancredo debate the issue. I also don't believe Secretary of State Rice will run. If she does run, then maybe she can explain why she believes the Minutemen are "vigilantes." Sen. McCain supports amnesty for illegal aliens and has joined forces with Sen. Kennedy to sponsor legislation giving amnesty to illegal aliens.

The Republican base does not support President Bush's plan to give legal status to illegal aliens. The Republican base does not believe the Minutemen are "vigilantes." The Republican base does not support Sen. McCain's plan to give amnesty to illegal aliens.
45 posted on 06/13/2005 9:09:04 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

I meant to say in the first paragraph of the above post the words "one of the most important reasons."


46 posted on 06/13/2005 9:15:53 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
I meant to include in the lengthy post above my opinion that Cong. Tancredo would almost certainly welcome the opportunity to debate Sen. McCain's amnesty scheme with him.
47 posted on 06/13/2005 9:19:19 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: ZULU
I don't get it. The problem isn't with our message, but with a lot of the messengers.

Haley-Bop Bump.

48 posted on 06/13/2005 10:58:45 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Jim Robinson
...just reelected Bush to a second term, and they knew damned well what his policy on the border was...

Nicely put.

49 posted on 06/13/2005 11:02:58 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21

Kerry and the Dems are no better.


50 posted on 06/14/2005 2:49:08 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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