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Is Bill Maher The Jane Fonda Of The Iraq War? - Looking for his own anti-aircraft gun…
theOneRepublic Journal ^ | 6/13/05 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 06/13/2005 8:44:51 AM PDT by ParsifalCA

I don’t watch the Bill Maher show on HBO. I haven’t thought much about him since he had a show on ABC and implied that the 9/11 attackers were courageous for flying hijacked planes into buildings and killing 3,000 people. At the same time, Maher said that the U.S. was cowardly for attacking terrorist bases in Afghanistan by launching cruise missiles from ships at sea. He is supposed to be a comedian but also tries to come across as someone who makes serious and thoughtful points about political issues.

We had to take another look at Maher because after he lost his ABC show he was picked up by Time Warner’s HBO, where he recently declared that the U.S. was facing a military recruiting crisis because we had already picked enough “low-lying Lynndie England fruit,” a reference to the soldier on trial for abusing Iraqi prisoners, and were in need of “warm bodies” for the front lines.

It should be self-evident that we are a nation at war, and that our ability to win this war depends on having a military that can fight and win. When a media personality, even one as obscure as Maher, demeans our service personnel with unfair charges and dishonest stereotypes, he is giving aid and comfort to the enemy...[more]

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; fonda; hanoijane; hbo; idiot; iraq; maher; numbskull; punk; terror; traitor; uninaltarget

1 posted on 06/13/2005 8:44:52 AM PDT by ParsifalCA
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To: ParsifalCA
While I am no fan of Maher, his comments about 9/11 and the US military were correct and misconstrued to criticize and attack him.

He did NOT say that the US Military were cowards, but that the LEADERSHIP (CLINTON) was a coward for the way they operated. Lauching cruise missles from hundreds of miles away at empty buildings and aspirin factories.

Maher was correct.

Even Rush Limbaugh defended him on his comments.

2 posted on 06/13/2005 8:53:49 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: ParsifalCA

Maher may be an ass sometimes but he is no Hanoi Jane.


3 posted on 06/13/2005 8:53:50 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: Phantom Lord

Plus Maher was right about the terrorists. Evil though they were, they were not without physical courage.

It's dangerous to underestimate one's enemy. Maher was calling out the government on that one, and he was right.

But the truth is more complicated than an easy slam against someone from the other political camp, so he'll continue to be tagged with this canard.


4 posted on 06/13/2005 8:59:41 AM PDT by highball
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To: highball
Plus Maher was right about the terrorists. Evil though they were, they were not without physical courage.

Yes, one of my pet peeves is when people try to dismiss evil people as insane, or gutless. Sometimes, you have to face the reality they are just evil.

5 posted on 06/13/2005 9:23:33 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: ParsifalCA

Bill Maher is, among other things, one of those guys who would never get a date if he wasn't in show business.


6 posted on 06/13/2005 9:36:14 AM PDT by veronica
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To: Phantom Lord

Maher is scum.


7 posted on 06/13/2005 9:38:26 AM PDT by sauropod (De gustibus non est disputandum)
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To: ParsifalCA
It should be self-evident that we are a nation at war.

It is to most however, there are those that declare how patriotic they are while making horrible accusations about America being in Iraq – why, Saddam had no ties to terrorism; Iraq would be better off if that man were still in charge, some even go so far as to call Saddam’s demise an illegal ‘Regime Change’ the President lied; The President didn’t lie, he had the same intelligence that the United Nations and everyone else had he just had the courage to do something about it; this is an unjust war and so on ad-nauseam. The knee-jerk reaction to Abu Ghraib nonsense; the Downing Street Memo; the erroneous filibuster explanations; the erroneous social security discourse from truly stupid talking heads.

It just goes on and on from the anti-American left as they help the terrorists day in and day out while subjecting our Troops to more danger than necessary.

The anti-American leftists like Jane Fonda, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Hillary Clinton, who smears her country and the Military by shredding our President here at home and where ever she is over-seas. These people are just a few of those who do not want America to be a success in Iraq and they with the help of a biased MSM & MSP are waging the same propaganda war they did with Viet Nam; they started it by letting John Kerry run for POTUSA and carry that same treasonous blather helping the terrorists enormously. Rather than fight the terrorists, the left wants to appease them; throw some money at them to leave most of us alone – so they take a Twin Tower down now and again or blow up a shopping center, or ship, so what! We’re not spending all that money on the Military, we can spend it on Social Reforms – Social Engineering and cradle to grave un-constitutional entitlements – what’s that…..Unconstitutional? Oh really! You gonna let that scrap of history stand in the way of a completely Socialized America?

BEWARE THE PROPAGANDA BEING USED AS IT WAS IN VIET NAM - TO LOSE THE WAR ON TERRORISM RATHER THAN WIN IT – DON’T LET THESE UNPATRIOTIC, UN-AMERICAN SOCIALISTS GET AWAY WITH IT!

Bill Maher needs to define his choice of words and history more clearly.

8 posted on 06/13/2005 9:41:13 AM PDT by yoe
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To: sauropod

What Bill Maher thinks and says seems to be far too important to some people. Even negative attention benefits him. I say we dismiss him from our vocabulary.


9 posted on 06/13/2005 9:48:06 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: veronica

"Bill Maher is, among other things, one of those guys who would never get a date if he wasn't in show business."

Exactly! He and Rosie are two good examples of how dumb,
no-talent nobodies.....suddenly become "stars" when liberals throw money at them and keep telling the rest of us how talented they are. Voila! They then become "intellectuals"
with all the know about foreign policy and all the pseudo-intells clamor to sit at their feet and oooooh & aaaaaaah!


10 posted on 06/13/2005 9:59:01 AM PDT by Winfield (sham)
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To: ParsifalCA

He's more afraid of Christianity than terrorists.


11 posted on 06/13/2005 9:59:50 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Phantom Lord

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The CLINTONS refused 3 free offers from the Sudan during the 1990's to hand over our No. 1 terrorist enemy OSAMA bin LADEN to us on a silver platter before he could hit us hard here at home .

The CLINTONS' only response was a diversionary missile launch on empty OSAMA tents in Afghanistan and a big "No, thank you very much" missile launch on an aspirin factory...

...in the Sudan.



One so very unnecessay casualty of 911:


RICK RESCORLA
http://www.RickRescorla.com

Where RICK RESCORLA walked in Vietnam
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm (See 1st Photo)

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12 posted on 06/13/2005 10:03:00 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Which has what to do with Bill Maher?


13 posted on 06/13/2005 11:30:23 AM PDT by highball
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To: highball


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A 'Fair & Balanced' BILL MAHER would have been complaining equally on National TV about the CLINTONS' refusing to bring our No. 1 Terrorist Enemy OSAMA bin LADEN to the USA as offered during the 1990's...

...as BILL MAHER is now about BUSH fighting him.


BILL MAHER = Sins of Omission

Equally as damning as the CLINTONS' past Sins of Co-mission against US.



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran of 12 'Politically Incorrect with BILL MAHER' TV tapings at CBS Television City in Hollywood CA.

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14 posted on 06/13/2005 12:41:19 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

You're missing the point of his comments, I think. He wasn't slamming Bush specifically. His comments could just as easily be an indictment of Clinton's asprin-factory bombing as well.

His point was only that by calling the terrorists who brought down the towers "cowards," you underestimate them. And underestimating them might make us feel better, but is counterproductive for just that reason.

I have no problem with his comments on that issue. I prefer a cold, hard assesment of our enemies rather than mushy feel-good talk. What's to argue with that?


15 posted on 06/13/2005 12:47:08 PM PDT by highball
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To: ParsifalCA
Bill Maher? Nahhh.
Not even close.
The JANE FONDA of the Iraq War is BAGHDAD JIM McDERMOTT.....




16 posted on 06/13/2005 1:07:17 PM PDT by XR7
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To: highball

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BILL MAHER's labeling all our heroic Freedom-Fighting U.S. Military with the same shameful LYNDIE ENGLAND brush on National TV is designed to undercut BUSH's promise to protect us by bringing Freedom to the oppressed peoples & cultures of the world.

BILL MAHER should have exposed the CLINTON missile strikes on Afghanistan & the Sudan as the diversions they really were away from the CLINTONS own worst misbehaviors on behalf of our terrorist enemies over the decades.

That would be a more honest TV Commentary than what came out of BILL MAHER's mouth after the Attacks of September 11, 2001.

And, by the way, I wouldn't paint JetLiner highjackers who slit the throats of innocent non-weapon carrying American Flight Attendants as being anything close to courageous.

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17 posted on 06/13/2005 1:47:35 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Phantom Lord

"While I am no fan of Maher"

That's all one need to say of the matter.

His opinion of Iraq is no more valid nor worthy of comment than any other misinformed bonehead.

How long are comedians allowed to be unfunny before they lose their 'celebrity' status?


18 posted on 06/13/2005 1:58:28 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Abhorrent? Yes.

Monsters? Yes.

Evil? Yes.

Cowards? No.


19 posted on 06/13/2005 1:58:54 PM PDT by highball
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To: ParsifalCA

"It should be self-evident that we are a nation at war, "


So why are our borders unprotected?


20 posted on 06/13/2005 2:26:09 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: highball; ALOHA RONNIE
Cowards? No.

Yeah.
It takes a lot of courage to attack and murder unarmed flight attendants.

21 posted on 06/13/2005 2:53:34 PM PDT by XR7
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To: ParsifalCA
I don’t watch the Bill Maher show on HBO.

Then why does he feel competent to comment on Maher?

22 posted on 06/13/2005 2:54:35 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: XR7

He said they didn't lack physical courage. Nobody who willingly and knowingly sacrifices their life for a cause lacks physical courage.

You can say that they lack morals, intelligence or souls, but those black-hearted men did have physical courage. And don't underestimate them - they are our enemy, and we need to be honest about our enemy if we're going to defeat them. Trying to pump ourselves up with false rhetoric doesn't help.


23 posted on 06/13/2005 2:57:51 PM PDT by highball
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To: highball

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I'm sure the loving families of 911 victims really appreciate your definition of what makes for a "Profile in Courage" in a terrorist in the middle of a terrorist attack.

The first of those family members I imagine would be U.S. Solicitor General TED OLSON whose No. 1 HILLARY-Fighting author BARBARA K. OLSON just happened to be on her way to fight HILLARY at a 'Politically Incorrect' TV show with BILL MAHER when she was diverted instead to the 1st floor of the Pentagon traveling in excess of 500 mph on the morning of September 11, 2001.

Now that's what I call...

...COURAGE.

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24 posted on 06/13/2005 3:10:07 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

You and I will have to agree to disagree. I don't believe in emotionalism, not even when it comes to our murderous enemies.


25 posted on 06/13/2005 4:38:14 PM PDT by highball
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To: highball

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I don't believe in emotionalism either.

I do believe in CLARITY.

I work at it here, HARD.

The CLINTONS helped bring the attacks of 911 upon us all, and the 911 death of my fellow Vietnam Veteran RICK RESCORLA, as BILL MAHER neglects commenting on these facts.

This is abundantly CLEAR.

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26 posted on 06/13/2005 5:42:35 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

But that's just silly.

W "neglects commenting" on it too. Should we start twisting his words, too?

There are lots of people who "neglect commenting" on that. Writers, entertainers, politicians, commentators. Shall we whinge about all of them?

Does that excuse taking Maher's words out of context to make political hay?


27 posted on 06/13/2005 8:20:36 PM PDT by highball
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To: highball

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BUSH made a deliberat decision at the start of his 1st Term as President to not look backward at the CLINTONS' own worst misbehaviors ...simply because it would get in the way of his leading the nation forward after the CLINTON Years.

T'is not the case for -We the People- and our "Responsible" news media. Especially since HILLARY is already being declared as the heads-on favorite, and richest, Presidential Candidate of the Democrat Party for a coming 2008 Campaign.

For there's a...

Danger, Will Robinson, Danger.

And THAT's what BILL MAHER should be talking to us about on National TV.

Especially in a new Time of War...
in a new Century...
with an enemy that's now...
just around the corner and...
up your street...
with our own Freedom now...
directly at stake...
here at home.

BILL MAHER's "Courage" statement was just a reflection of what he's been saying all along about our beloved country on National TV. His mentor BILL CLINTON was the coward who launched missiles on vacant Afghanistan tents in an attempt to portray himself as an anti-terrorist, when he's actually always been on the side of our terrorist enemies ..starting with North Vietnam's Communist Terrorist Dictator HO CHI MINH.

The Enemy is now here and...

...BILL MAHER is covering for'em.

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28 posted on 06/13/2005 8:51:57 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ParsifalCA

Maher has the brainpower of a moth.


29 posted on 06/13/2005 9:01:15 PM PDT by John Lenin (It's a joy watching demoRATS self destruct)
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To: John Lenin

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BILL MAHER's true "Brain" & focus is now on display for all to see at his other Mentor HUGH HEFNER's PLAYBOY Mansion on the A & E Cable TV Network.

Enjoy.

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30 posted on 06/13/2005 9:20:49 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

I doubt that he can get a decent woman to stay around him for long, that's why he goes for the ho's at Hefners.


31 posted on 06/13/2005 9:40:25 PM PDT by John Lenin (It's a joy watching demoRATS self destruct)
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