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Presidents Bush, Fox and Martin are all on board to push this agenda, full throttle.
1 posted on 06/13/2005 11:48:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: AK2KX; Ancesthntr; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; meadsjn; Joe Brower; ...
Maybe this "North American Community" plan explains why, even in time of war, our president won't invest a dime in improving our border fence.

He considers it obsolete already. We will trust the Mexican police to keep terrorists out of Mexico, so that they won't be able to walk into the USA.

I guess the Constitution is obsolete as well, since we don't seem to care about this part at all, even during a war.


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

2 posted on 06/13/2005 11:52:33 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

This goes nicely with the Ron Paul article posted earlier. Did you see it?


4 posted on 06/13/2005 12:05:42 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Travis McGee

Now the elites and the one-worlders are really laying their cards on the table for all to see. Do you see what kinds of vermin the Bush admin. has crawled into bed with?


5 posted on 06/13/2005 12:08:59 PM PDT by piceapungens
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To: Travis McGee

"We will trust the Mexican police to keep terrorists out of Mexico..."

Travis, if you've been down into Mexico lately you already know that the Mexican police are terrorists...maybe not flying planes into buildings, but experts in extortion, highway robbery and probably murder...I have no desire to ever step foot in Mexico again.


8 posted on 06/13/2005 12:22:37 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper
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To: Travis McGee

...our security is endangered as much by the limits of our vision as by the terrorists who threaten us...

The terrorists who threaten us most are in the White House and the Capitol Building.



9 posted on 06/13/2005 12:24:30 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I guess Bin Laden is just Emanuel Goldstein after all.)
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To: Travis McGee
They can push it all they want. I'm not buying.

Moreover, anyone advocating this monstrosity better be prepared to resign from office for breach of oath.

10 posted on 06/13/2005 12:25:48 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: DumpsterDiver

ping


13 posted on 06/13/2005 12:34:50 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Travis McGee
OK, Travis. What shall we do? The ballot box continues to get us more of the same. In my mind the legislative and executive branches should all be held to account for failing to execute their duties under the Constitution, U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"

And the judicial should be told to sit down and shut up until we get back to you.

Won't happen so I don't know how to proceed.

15 posted on 06/13/2005 12:42:43 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: Travis McGee

Bump. Thanks for posting.


21 posted on 06/13/2005 1:30:32 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Why? Ask Jamie Gorelick)
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To: Travis McGee
We are thinking too small. We need to find ways to making trade and travel easier while we define and defend a continental security perimeter.

Continental Security Perimeter: It’s way too late for that and don’t even get me started on Mexico:

Canadian Intelligence (CSIS) Director Jim Judd testified recently before the Senate committee reviewing Canada's anti-terrorism legislation, he noted there were now suspected terrorists in Canada that "have had no discernible previous link of any kind with the terrorist networks." Canadian intelligence experts believe that converts to Islam in the country are becoming a major source of Al-Qaeda combatants and pose a risk to security. An intelligence report from Canada's spy service, released to a daily said "there is a direct threat to Canada and Canadian interests from Al-Qaeda and related groups," and that those groups are attempting to expand their support in Canada. "Converts are highly prized by terrorist groups for their familiarity with the West and relative ease at moving through Western society," the recently declassified Canadian Security Intelligence Service report said.

22 posted on 06/13/2005 1:39:22 PM PDT by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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Click to see other threads related to illegal aliens in America
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For those who've yet to figure out where we're headed...

25 posted on 06/13/2005 2:43:24 PM PDT by HiJinx (Let's put Blockbuster in charge of immigration - 2 days late and WHAMMO!!!!)
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To: Travis McGee

they have no shame. this socialist POS spelled it all out real plain didn't he? Americans had best get ready to open that wallet a little further... because we now have to make an equally prosperous country out of Mexico. the good Dr didn't say WHY that was our job, but then flaming socialists never have to give a reason for theiving from the productive.

glad to see them getting brazen enough to come out from under their rocks and put their stinking agenda on the table for all to see.


27 posted on 06/13/2005 2:48:00 PM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: Travis McGee
The focus today is on the new requirement for all citizens of the United States, Canada, Mexico, and Bermuda to have a passport to travel among our countries. It is intended to secure the homeland, but I question whether this approach will achieve the goal, and I fear that it will harm other U.S. interests and divert us from more effective paths toward securing our continent.

I stopped reading here. Treasonous crap!

28 posted on 06/13/2005 3:36:35 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: Travis McGee

I've known people who go to Mexico. They always carry extra cash in case they get stopped by Mexican police (for whatever reason), others have commented they don't go outside a resort area (for safety reasons). They claim if you get stopped, all you have to do is fork over some $, and we are to entrust this corrupt government/law enforcement system with our protection from terrorists? I don't think so!

Unbelievable, the whole time I was reading the story I'm thinking, is this really a true story or satire?


29 posted on 06/13/2005 3:55:06 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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The U.S., Mexican, and Canadian governments remain zealous defenders of an outdated conception of sovereignty even though their citizens are ready for a new approach.

I believe this statement is a fabricated lie...Our current group of politicians are not defenders of our sovereignty and I'm convinced the majority of Americans want to keep The United States separate from any other country...

It is my hope that Jim Robinson will give us an Official Free Republic Position on this issue so we know where we stand...There are less than a handful of Federal Politicians who will stand with the Constitution...

37 posted on 06/13/2005 5:32:55 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park!!!)
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To: Travis McGee

First of all, Robert Pastor should have no credibility in front of a congressional committee. He speaks of "North America" as a dreamy-eyed reality ... to him, "North America" has already been accomplished. He barely mentions the individual names of countries.

The motivation is clear: we are to mimic and compete with the EU. It's business and banking at the expense of national sovereignty.

Our administration is playing a waiting game with the public, hoping they can continue to refuse to enforce immigration law without arousing too much protest, until this "North America" is in place and there can be no turning back.


39 posted on 06/13/2005 6:51:11 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: Travis McGee
Ultimately, however, it is more symptom than cause: the way to reduce illegal immigration is to make Mexico's economy grow faster than that of the U.S.

Oh, I see. So that's how it's done.

70 posted on 06/14/2005 3:21:49 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Travis McGee
Got here by accident following a link from another thread(unrelated I might add). The lack of interest in this thread can likely be attributed to the length of the piece itself. Maybe an executive summary would have drawn more attention.

In any case, there are numerous items this globalist cited to encourage us to abandon our country and our constitution, but this one seems as blatant a lie as any:

The U.S., Mexican, and Canadian governments remain zealous defenders of an outdated conception of sovereignty even though their citizens are ready for a new approach. Each nation's leadership has stressed differences rather than common interests. North America needs leaders who can articulate and pursue a broader vision.

Fact of the matter is, if anything, it's turned inside out. But what the hey, the CFR puppetmasters' and their minions' ends justify the means right? FWIW, I actually read most of the piece and for the life of me, I couldn't find any justification(that stood out at least) for advocating the "United States of North America". But I did read it in a hurry.

I've even considered some what ifs, like, what if the United States of North Ameirca" were to adopt a constitution essentially the same as our own. Would that make a difference? Then I thought what the hell, we aren't operating under our constitution now, so no dice. We have already abdicated our individual sovereignty to a centralized government monster. Question is, can we recover it?

FGS

73 posted on 06/14/2005 9:31:52 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Travis McGee

Did anyone in D.C. ask Americans if they wanted open borders and a blatant giveaway of US sovereignty? No. This is illegal.


80 posted on 06/20/2005 2:39:23 AM PDT by hershey
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