Posted on 06/14/2005 5:22:05 PM PDT by njackson22
WASHINGTON -- As Republican strategists weigh the party's prospects for 2006 and 2008, they are increasingly worried about a political confrontation with Roy S. Moore, the former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court who became a hero to religious conservatives when he refused to follow a federal court order to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the state's judicial building.
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Governor yes president no.
The boston Globe is having a wishful thinking episode.
I live in Ohio, so I couldn't vote for him anyway
No other explanation makes sense to anyone with a legal education.
He'd be a better Guv than tax-loving Riley.
And mine.
John McCain...(((shudders)))I hope we have a better candidate then him.
or Gulianni-pro-abort
As soon as I saw that it was the Globe saying it was a problem for the GOP, I knew right then and there: Its a problem for the 'Rats.
great point
I wouldn't mind Judge Moore as POTUS.
However, if he ran as a third party candidate, this might
allow Hitlery to slip in through a split in the Conservative vote.
I don't think he can win the GOP nomination.
Sadly there are two megalomaniacs out there who are capable of doing just such a thing. One is Moore and the other is Tom Tancredo. Both are so in love with themselves that they'd screw over the entire nation simply to promote themselves.
He would definitely split the wheat from the chaff in the GOP. Hilary as president, Jezebel.
If Hilary won I would move out of the country.
I'm open for debate on anyone but McCain. He would my choice if I could only choose between him and the hildabeast.
Oh, how right you are.
Roy is just too conservative to be a good Republican
He did it, and he did it in such a way, to provoke an outcome where he can claim martyrdom status along with the Ten Commandments. It was a very clever political strategy, but I think it was incredibly cynical and an absolute betrayal of those who were striving to get a balance between government and religion.
He set that cause back, yet somehow comes out the hero. Go figure.
later read/ping?
I've gotten to hear Roy Moore speak on two occasions in ohio. He was a hero. He showed us video of Bill Pryor basically trying to get him to recant three times. I am 100 percent behind Roy Moore.
I'd stay and vote to take it back.
If the grass roots doesn't mobilize and work to nominate a principled conservative in 2008, I fear that we may be facing a nightmare scenario:
Hillary as the Democrat nominee
A RINO (McCain, Giuliani) as the Republican nominee, with the support of MSM and the Beltway establishment neocon elite crowd. Running on an open-border, pro-abortion, gun-grabbing "bipartisan" platform.
Roy Moore (Republican governor of Alabama) as a third party candidate. Or Tancredo. Running on an isolationist, border security, anti-abortion platform.
And Hillary consolidating her base, and winning with 43% of the vote like her hubby in 1992. And then there will be hell to pay.
If he compromised then people would like him more. But he was obeying a higher law.
I would probably stay and fight too.
Seeing how it is 2005 and not 2007/2008, you have no idea who the GOP is going to nominate.
Well, we're replacing them as fast as the system allows. Until then, we have to deal with realistic expectations of their rulings.
He increased it. And anyone who has a legal background predicted it at the time. I can't help but conclude that it was deliberate. Either that, or he's a moron.
Neither conclusion leads me to support him for anything.
bump for later reading.
Moral Absolutes Ping.
Leetle discussion about Roy Moore, Mr. 10 Commandments himself. Just a snippet of the article, but it's from the Boston Globe so who cares.
I've got to do a search and re-read some of those 10 Commandment/Moore threads. I made some good comments that I want to copy (ahem).
I'd like to hear ex-judge Moore speak - what motivates him, is he self serving as some people say? Somewhere I've got a poem he wrote, seemed good to me!
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I just can't imagine any good motivation for wanting to eliminate all public display of the 10 Commandments. Unless they make people feel uncomfortable because they want to break them. Not that that's a "good" motivation, just understandable. If I was a thief, I'd hate "Do Not Steal" signs and little sercurity cameras.
Bump.
Who wants to eliminate them? They're on display in the Supreme Court building itself, and in the Supreme Court building in Texas.
But they are not sitting out there, by themselves, on a big rock, as a religious monument. They're combined with the symbols of the Code of Hammurabi and other symbols of the heritage of law.
IOW, the 10 Commandments can be displayed in government buildings. But not in the way Roy Moore displayed them.
But that was fine with Moore. He wanted to provoke a confrontation so he could build a political base. He said, in his defense of his position before the Federal Court of Appeals, that Jews and Muslims, and Buddhists....indeed, every other non-Christian religion enjoys its status in America only because Christians grant it that status.
Moore is scary, but he appeals to hard-right evangelicals and fundamentalists, and those who want to make sure only Christian prayers are said at Friday night high school football games.
Moore may be elected governor of Alabama, and many feel he will provoke another confrontation with the federal government, ala George Wallace, by putting another rock out on the lawn of the State Capitol and daring Bush to enforce a court order to remove it.
He's a grandstanding glory-hound and an advocate of making evangelical Christianity the preferred religious expression in America.
I can't believe that any jurist who actually believes what he purports to believe would have conducted himself that way.
His actions were doomed to legal failure. He can't possibly be that stupid not to know that. He's using that deliberate failure to seek higher office. It's a pathetically cynical strategy and it's sad to see many of my fellow conservatives swallowing it hook, line and sinker.
I know that's what you say. But you say a lot of things.
""Sadly" the Republican Party is hell bent on running Rudy or McCain for Pres."
I often hear of Senator Allen, VA as a good candidate. Jeb Bush, Bill Frist.
I think McCain has been too disloyal and independent to expect the nomination.
I could support Rudy. Unlike many, I'm not a one issue "theocon."
You don't like what I say, perhaps you'll listen to what Roy Moore himself says:
Facing a lawsuit to force him to remove a two-ton Ten Commandments monument from the building that houses the Alabama Supreme Court, Moore took the stand in a federal courthouse in Montgomery in mid October to make his case. During testimony, he put forth his view that God is sovereign over both church and state and that the Decalogue display was merely intended to acknowledge that.
U.S. District Judge Myron H. Thompson didn't seem persuaded. From the bench he asked Moore, "Would you acknowledge that Buddhism is a religion?"
Moore replied, "Buddhism was considered a false religion by the forefathers. It is not my definition of religion, no. It was not their definition of religion under the First Amendment of the Constitution."
"I wasn't really asking that," Thompson said. "I was just asking whether religion within the confines of the First Amendment as you view it historically [if] the term 'religion' includes Buddhists, the Islamic faith, the Hindus?"
Moore refused to budge.
"I don't think so, sir, that Buddhists and other faiths and I won't speak to all faiths because I'm not a theologian recognize the Creator, God," he replied. "Some might, but if they do, it's not the God of the Holy Scriptures. And that's why the Bible is used for the very foundation upon which we take our oaths."
Not a Buddhist.
Surely you don't agree with him!
If we continue playing by THEIR rules and following THEIR laws we will never win.
Roy Moore served us well by gaining attention and stirring people up to realize how the Left is threatening our culture, and country.
Buddhism is a philosophy not a religion.
I love the guy
a religion of eastern and central Asia growing out of the teaching of Gautama Buddha that suffering is inherent in life and that one can be liberated from it by mental and moral self-purification
Everyone seems to know that Buddhism is a religion, except you.
Tancredo? LOL! you're living in some bazarro world. Get back on the meds.
Tancredo cares about himself and nothing else. He is playing all his worshipers for money and attention while being the biggest obstructionist when it comes to any type of immigration reform.
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