Skip to comments.Fred Phelps to Protest Soldier's Funeral
Posted on 06/15/2005 6:30:56 AM PDT by Hatman
BOISE, Idaho -- A Kansas preacher and gay rights foe whose congregation is protesting military funerals around the country said he's coming to Idaho tomorrow to picket the memorial for an Idaho National Guard soldier killed in Iraq.
A flier on the Web site of Pastor Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church claims God killed Cpl. Carrie French with an improvised explosive device in retaliation against the United States for a bombing at Phelps' church six years ago.
"We're coming," Phelps said yesterday.
Westboro Baptist either has protested or is planning protests of other public funerals of soldiers from Michigan, Alabama, Minnesota, Virginia and Colorado. A protest is planned for July 11 at Dover Air Force Base, the military base where war dead are transported before being sent on to their home states.
Phelps gained national notoriety in 1998 when he picketed the funeral of Matthew Shepard, the gay college student beaten to death in Wyoming.
Since then, Phelps said his church has been the target of hateful words and actions, including a bomb attack six years ago.
Phelps' church has picketed the funerals of AIDS victims for more than a decade.
French, 19, was a Caldwell High School graduate and varsity cheerleader. She was killed June 5 in the northern city of Kirkuk. French served as an ammunition specialist with the 116th Brigade Combat Team's 145th Support Battalion.
Phelps said the fact that French led an all-American life gives him all the more reason to picket her final public tribute.
"An all-American girl from a society of all-American heretics," he said.
"Our attitude toward what's happening with the war is the Lord is punishing this evil nation for abandoning all moral imperatives that are worth a dime," Phelps said.
Caldwell Police Chief Bob Sobba said he cannot bar Phelps from going to the public funeral, which is scheduled for 1 p.m. at the Albertson College of Idaho in that city.
"While we respect Mr. Phelps' right to protest, we would hope that he would respect the family and friends of this young person by not disrupting the memorial," Sobba said.
Idaho Air National Guard Lt. Tony Vincelli, acting as spokesman for French's family, said there were no plans to change the funeral arrangements.
The Rev. Brian Fischer, pastor of Boise's Community Church of the Valley, and himself a past target of protest by the Westboro Baptist Church, decried Phelps' plan.
"What Phelps is doing is a reprehensible thing, to take a funeral and turn it into a photo op for his hate cause," Fischer said.
"We hope everyone will ignore Phelps' group."
In 2003, Phelps demanded that he be allowed to erect an anti-gay monument in a Boise public park. To avoid a lawsuit from his group, city officials voted in 2004 that a Ten Commandments monument be moved out of the park.
It would be a great pleasure to choke this man.
Amazingly, some people here said that Phelps would be welcome to a dinner at the White House as long as he paid the money to get in just like the porn star.
Sheesh......this guy's a carny nut and has no business near the White House.
um...yeah....whatever you say dude.
I think that Mr. Phelps needs to take a little nap.
Man o man. Would I ever love to punch this guy.
I see an asskicking in this man's future. Hopefully a good one.
I don't get it.
Is he claiming this soldier is responsible for the bombing at his "church"?
You are far too kind & gentle.
Hopefully, some "private citizens" will arrange to be there and stop this nutcase.
No. Phelps is complaining that he doesn't get enough attention.
I would love to read a response to this man from one of you former or current soldiers that have lost friends in battle or from a family member of a soldier that gave his life for his country. I think those comments would say it all.
To protest anyone's memorial service is beyond sick.
I want this guys contact info to send him a short note.
May God have mercy on Phelps' soul because I care not for it.
This guy is probably a democrat plant to make those against the radical homosexual agenda look like nutcases in the press.
Perhaps some of the deceased's old comrades could drop by to 'splain to Phelps about the error of his ways....
Phelps is the east end of a westbound horse.
See the link in reply #15.
I live in Topeka where this wacko is based so I get to see him and his minions on a weekly basis. They'll picket anything. I've personally seen them at churches, classical music festivals, and a talk by Bill Cosby. But protesting soldier's funerals is a whole new low.
This is just a small example of this guy's mental defectiveness. I'm surprised he's got any followers at all in his church.
You'd need an army to pull me off this guys pummelled corpse he showed up at my sons funeral....
Which consists of about 10 people - all members of Phelps immediate family.
Perhaps they should do the '21 gun salute' while pointing the weapons at Mr. Phelps and crew.
You don't get it because you are a normal, rational, and sane human being.
I only got it because I supervise a truly deranged person, and that experience has given me great insight into the minds of people like Phelps.
Phelps is saying that God killed this US Soldier because someone bombed Phelps' church in Kansas.
The "logic" goes like this:
Some bombs Phelps' church.
That makes God mad. (Because God is on Phelps' side)
The US Government was somehow behind the bombing, or the US Government failed to aggressively pursue and identify, and arrest, the bomber.
So, God avenges the bombing by killing a US Soldier.
If you are deranged (and/or if you have a very warped theology), this makes perfect sense.
I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing!!
Everytime I see garbage from one of those so-called human rights groups he funds in Russia or anywhere for that matter.... I JUST know that Soros is up to something EVIL!!
Carnies frighten me. Very small hands. Smell like cabbage, you know.
Phelp's and his family form a small cult. Not surprisingly, they document all threats, insults, etc. they receive while protesting, and attempt to press charges against people that stand up to them.
If I lived in the area, I would be happy to join a mob that descended on Phelps and his supporters and beat the cr*p out of him.
Someone needs to give Fred Phillips a tuneup.
He's wearing a Tony Gonzales jersey, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Phred Phelps have resepect for someone other than himself? Hell will freeze over first.
This man displays amazingly loose associations. Usually a sign of some level of Schizophrenia.
But someone, please beat his a** anyway.
Nah. Phelps was pulling this sick crap long before Soros got into politics.
Phelps may be suprised where his soul ends up.
If some pro-gay-agenda activists want to get the ball rolling, they arrange for a group of students to perform that play about Phelps. I guess he comes withn the scripts and media kit, for you can count on him and his band of hateful loonies to show up and make a lot of noise. Then the local professors, teachers, and media-cracy can lecture us all about how Christians need to stop hating gays and embrace all aspects of the gay lifestyle.
If Phelps isn't an agent provacateur, he should be. He could get paid well by leftist kingmakers for the work he is doing.
The City Council voted to remove the ten commandments to avoid the resulting legal fight. Many people here were and are mad at the city council because we all felt that they should have fought this bozo and left the ten commandments where they were. In essence, many felt that the city council wimped out and was manipulated by this person to get rid of the ten commandments.
As to this guy disrupting this good girl's funeral...it will not fly here very well at all. People at the funeral will be respectful and hold their peace out of respect for Carrie...but there is no love lost for the likes of this hatemonger.
People here look dimly on homsexuality in general, but they do not like being portrayed by someone so obviously unChristian as this individual and his group. We prefer to handle it our own way and do not need or seek his help. What he plans for Carrie's funeral is just the latest sick example of why. I hope the guy steps over the line in some small way so the Caldwell police can do their duty and arrest him for whatever infraction he commits.
I personaly believe he is a leftist agent provocateur.
Phelps and his ilk so thoroughly betray the ethic of Jesus of Nazareth that I am at a loss --- I can't quite wrap my head around such hatred and perversion.
I can't muster hatred for Phelps, only a genuine pity at someone so consumed by darkness and hate that they have feel compelled to act out their psychosis and evil on others.
Mercy triumphs over judgment. St. James
This ahole would be in real trouble if he picketed my kids funeral. I hope her dad lays a can of whoop a-- on him.
Thanks for that VERY disturbing link, Dane.
I think the first part of your statement is on target. While the last portion is probably correct, my guess is it is far more encompassing than that!
From day one, the demonRATS and their worshipers have been blaming and condemning the "evangelical" Christians for re-electing President Bush and suggesting that he is trying to turn this country into a theocracy. Over the memorial day week-end I heard veterans claiming they were the ones responsible. This guy is the poster child the demonRATS are holding up as representative of all Christians, while supporting their anti-military agenda as well.
This man needs a nice "white coat" and a bed at the nearest asylum...ASAP.
The more we see the extremes on the left, the more we will see such counter-extremes created. I am interested in seeing this 'movie' about this guy, just to understand the way he thinks but I do think that he is an extremist that gives a terribly wrong message of Christianity.