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Walter E. Williams: Click it or ticket
jewishworldreview.com ^ | June 15, 2005 | Walter Williams

Posted on 06/15/2005 10:07:20 AM PDT by manny613

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), an office within the U.S. Department of Transportation, just finished its annual campaign to get us to wear our seatbelts under a program called "Click It or Ticket." States receive federal subsidies to ticket drivers if they or their passengers are not buckled up.

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KEYWORDS: billofrights; constitutionlist; donutwatch; govwatch; nannystate; peons; seatbelts; serfs; stateslaves; walterewilliams; walterwilliams
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1 posted on 06/15/2005 10:07:20 AM PDT by manny613
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2 posted on 06/15/2005 10:08:55 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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To: manny613

Hey, it beats fighting actual crime.


3 posted on 06/15/2005 10:09:40 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: manny613
Very simple. There should be no law. Common sense should be all the impetus needed to wear a seat belt.

Let's stop making laws curtailing rights of Americans and start protecting and defending Americans.

4 posted on 06/15/2005 10:10:32 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: manny613

Just great. A national fund raiser.


5 posted on 06/15/2005 10:11:36 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunion.)
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To: manny613

I hate this intrusion from the feds to the state govts.


6 posted on 06/15/2005 10:16:19 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: manny613

7 posted on 06/15/2005 10:16:23 AM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: beltfed308

Darwin was right in his assertion of survival of the fittest. It is stupid not to wear seatbelts, therefore, dumb people die in auto accidents due to their ignorant mistake. Rather than ticketing people for not wearing seatbelts, allow nature to follow its natural course and 100% of Americans will wear seatbelts in due time with no law necessary.


8 posted on 06/15/2005 10:17:24 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan
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To: manny613
States receive federal subsidies to ticket drivers if they or their passengers are not buckled up.

I didn't know this. So they collect the fees from the tickets, collect federal monies from writing the tickets....Do they benefit from the insurance companies in any form from the lovely surcharges?

9 posted on 06/15/2005 10:20:18 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: manny613

The Government allocates a lot of "grant" money to police departments to harass the citizens. These programs are "stat" driven. Accept the grant money, and show us your stats. The Government has too much tax money. It's disgusting.


10 posted on 06/15/2005 10:21:41 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: biblewonk

Ping.

One of your favorite subjects.


11 posted on 06/15/2005 10:23:18 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: manny613
Well, if I caused an accident with Williams and he were not wearing a seat belt, and if he were injured so that he could not write his column for a time, I could be held libel for destroying a national treasure.

ML/NJ

12 posted on 06/15/2005 10:23:34 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: manny613
What if they imposed fines on illegal aliens?

Wow...what a difference that would make.

13 posted on 06/15/2005 10:24:34 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Wolfie
Hey, it beats fighting actual crime.

Especially with millions of dope smokers out there that need to be arrested.
/S

14 posted on 06/15/2005 10:25:21 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: manny613
Click it or Ticket fascism because socialism is costing us money.

Am I the only one that sees this as one problem compounding another and more of the same being offered as a solution? What country is this supposed to be again?

15 posted on 06/15/2005 10:25:50 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: newgeezer

I sure agree with him on this one.


16 posted on 06/15/2005 10:26:34 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: atomic_dog

Probably do a touchdown dance if they happen to catch a dope smoker not wearing his seatbelt. ;)


17 posted on 06/15/2005 10:26:57 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

If there is a Hi-power 9mm in his glove box, they give the cop a Carribean cruise for hitting the trifecta.


18 posted on 06/15/2005 10:29:09 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: B Knotts
What if they imposed fines on illegal aliens?

How uncompassionate.

Now, those stupid SOB's forgetting to buckle up--they deserve it!

< /sarc >

19 posted on 06/15/2005 10:29:16 AM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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To: manny613

Another symptom of a government with too much time and money on its hands.


20 posted on 06/15/2005 10:29:50 AM PDT by Spok
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To: manny613

aside from the obvious nanny implications of this law,
what I dislike is that it gives another justification to pull you over and search you and your car.


21 posted on 06/15/2005 10:29:52 AM PDT by stompk
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To: All

Back when the Fed imposed the 55mph national speed limit, they simply withheld highway funds to those states choosing not to comply. The Fed is just blackmailing states into passing a law the Fed has no constitutional authority to make. It's easy to get the sheeple to swallow Bravo Sierra when you sell it with a rhyme. Fifty-five saves lives! Click it or ticket! If it does not fit, you must acquit!


22 posted on 06/15/2005 10:30:51 AM PDT by FNG
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To: Calpernia

Not in our state, Cal. It's a zero point offense.

As an aside, my son got one of these tickets. He was speeding, but the cop gave him -- and me -- a break.

No points = no insurance premium bump on my policy.


23 posted on 06/15/2005 10:31:29 AM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (A conservative in NJ, and proud of it. The conservative part, that is.)
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To: manny613

I always wear my seat belt but I find this campaign highly offensive. They always picture some burly sunglassed trooper looking like the class bully. How are we supposed to teach kids not to be afraid to approach a policeman if there is trouble when they're trying to scare everyone to wear seatbelts? Granted I want all real wrongdoers to be afraid at the sight a policeman but making criminals out of otherwise law-abiding people is a little much.


24 posted on 06/15/2005 10:34:01 AM PDT by Smittie
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To: Wolfie
Probably do a touchdown dance if they happen to catch a dope smoker not wearing his seatbelt. ;)
Especially if the smoker had some money they could steal confiscate..errrr...invoke "asset forfeiture" on.

Click It or Ticket? Stick It.

-Eric

25 posted on 06/15/2005 10:34:07 AM PDT by E Rocc (If God is watching us, we can at least try to be entertaining)
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To: Calpernia
In Mass they have to pull you over for another violation to ticket you for a seat belt violation, 25 dollar ticket, 250 dollar surcharge.
26 posted on 06/15/2005 10:34:38 AM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State)
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To: manny613
To everyone, specially young people (under 30) who have no clue how the seat belt & automotive airbags came about...

Always voluntary, never coercive. Read the newspaper articles and the congressional hearings on this subject from the years 1955-1965.

Fascism never happens overnight, and "promises" from politicians are not worth a bucketfull of bat doo-doo.

27 posted on 06/15/2005 10:34:40 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Cat loving Texan
It is stupid not to wear seatbelts, therefore, dumb people die in auto accidents due to their ignorant mistake.

I'm not disagreeing with the fact that this is not the federal gov'ts business, but just to play devil's advocate here, do you think there may be an interest in localities requiring seatbelts due to the risk of hurting others as a human projectile?

Info in this link

28 posted on 06/15/2005 10:35:15 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: FatherFig1o155

Oops, pardon. I think you are right in reference to my state too. Seat belt isn't a point.

As a ponder though, I still wonder who else makes money from Insurance surcharges.


29 posted on 06/15/2005 10:35:37 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Little Bill; FatherFig1o155

Maybe I wasn't mistaken. Mass does the surcharges for seat belts. NJ is a blue as Mass.


30 posted on 06/15/2005 10:37:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: manny613

Called by its' real name, it is bribery. The government using your and my tax dollars to bribe states into doing what they want. I always thought that bribery was against the law. But I guess if it has the government stamp of approval it is A Okay.


31 posted on 06/15/2005 10:37:29 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Little Bill

It started that way in every singe state.
In Washington state, they promised the people it would never be a primary offense.

If you believe that, I gotta bridge for sale, cheap...


32 posted on 06/15/2005 10:38:25 AM PDT by djf ("Stop quoting the law. We have swords!" - Roman general Sulla)
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To: Cat loving Texan
Rather than ticketing people for not wearing seatbelts, allow nature to follow its natural course and 100% of Americans will wear seatbelts in due time with no law necessary.

Gee and to think I've driven 20 years with no seat belt and been in several accidents (only one my fault) no worse for the wear...One could also ask by your logic how so many people stayed alive before seatbelts were even in vehicles.

33 posted on 06/15/2005 10:39:27 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: manny613

This all needs to be taken back to the states.

We need to start acting locally in our townships, then counties and states to repeal these Unconstitutional Laws.

Would anyone know where/how to start? I'm interested and have been interested, in getting something like this going in my state, but really don't even know where to begin.


34 posted on 06/15/2005 10:47:25 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: taxesareforever

Yes, it's bribery, and robbery, too. State sponsored, sanctioned, and enforced, but robbery none the less. I will guarantee the founding fathers are whirling in their graves about nonsense like this. They fought a revolution over far less...


35 posted on 06/15/2005 10:51:46 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (No rolling stone ever says, "I want to be a Bryologist when I grow up!")
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To: Cat loving Texan
Rather than ticketing people for not wearing seatbelts, allow nature to follow its natural course and 100% of Americans will wear seatbelts in due time with no law necessary.

The problem with your logic is that very few people die in car accidents whether they wear a seatbelt or not. In addition, if it is a real bad accident, even those wearing seatbelts usually die as well. So it would at most weed an statistically insignificant number of drivers.
36 posted on 06/15/2005 10:55:42 AM PDT by microgood
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To: manny613
So, Republicans - how's that "limited government" thingie you promised us for years coming along, hmmmmmm?

Quit screwing around with these Big Stupid Government totalitarians. Vote Libertarian.

37 posted on 06/15/2005 11:00:01 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Cat loving Texan
It is stupid not to wear seatbelts, therefore, dumb people die in auto accidents due to their ignorant mistake.

Hmm... I assume that you board the schoolbus every day to belt your kid in with his own personal belt, but who does this for him when he leaves school for the ride home?

38 posted on 06/15/2005 11:02:32 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: manny613
I heard Mr. Williams speaking about this same topic the other day when he hosted for Rush Limbaugh.

Glad he feels this is important to talk about.

39 posted on 06/15/2005 11:07:35 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: atomic_dog
Especially with millions of dope smokers out there that need to be arrested

ROFL!
Trample their rights but leave mine alone?
...
40 posted on 06/15/2005 11:15:57 AM PDT by mugs99
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To: manny613

I always find ticketing car drivers for not wearing seatbelts so laughingly ironic when (in PA at least) motorcyclists can ride without helmets.


41 posted on 06/15/2005 11:15:59 AM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: manny613

Click it or ticket is proof that we don't have enough crime in America. Law enforcement has so little crime to fight they need to give them something to do.
...


42 posted on 06/15/2005 11:19:24 AM PDT by mugs99
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To: Hank Rearden
"Quit screwing around with these Big Stupid Government totalitarians. Vote Libertarian."

If I thought they had a chance, I actually might consider it.
These days, with the Dem party SO far off, we need every vote going to someone who could possibly win. it's a tough situation.

I don't agree with all Lib thinking, but then, when I thought I agreed with all REP thinking, they went and changed on me. . . .
43 posted on 06/15/2005 11:20:24 AM PDT by stompk
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To: freepatriot32

The power we have given government is incredible. I wonder if the nannies will ever feel safe enough?


44 posted on 06/15/2005 11:22:47 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: stompk
I don't agree with all Lib thinking, but then, when I thought I agreed with all REP thinking, they went and changed on me. . . .

So I hope you're not going to continue supporting them - right?

The Big Government parties, both of them, wouldn't have a chance if nobody voted for them, either.

Vote for what you want and for what you believe, not for parasitic, career-politician liars who screw you over every election cycle. That's just nonsensical.

45 posted on 06/15/2005 11:24:44 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: manny613
subsidies

Well, that says it all. What a dirty word that is.

46 posted on 06/15/2005 11:27:47 AM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: Little Bill

State surcharge, or insurance surcharge?


47 posted on 06/15/2005 11:34:18 AM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (A conservative in NJ, and proud of it. The conservative part, that is.)
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To: Little Bill

That too shall pass....


48 posted on 06/15/2005 11:34:38 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Hank Rearden
"Vote for what you want and for what you believe, not for parasitic, career-politician liars who screw you over every election cycle. That's just nonsensical." LOL. true. but somehow I'm happier "settling" with Bush than I would have been if Kerry had won despite my voting for "what I believed in". . . it's a greater good compromise. no ?
49 posted on 06/15/2005 11:36:58 AM PDT by stompk
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To: mysterio
I wonder if the nannies will ever feel safe enough?

Not until every square inch of the surface of the earth is covered in bubble wrap

50 posted on 06/15/2005 12:32:01 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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