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Excerpts From Pilots' Recording [before crash]- Just Damn!
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Posted on 06/15/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT by Capt. Canuck

Excerpts from conversations between Pinnacle Airlines Capt. Jesse Rhodes and First Officer Peter Cesarz just before they died in the crash of a Bombardier regional jet on Oct. 14, 2004. Investigators say the crash occurred after the pilots took the plane to 41,000 feet, an altitude where engine problems can develop.

9:48:44 p.m.

Cesarz: "Man we can do it. Forty-one it."

9:48:46

Rhodes: "(Unintelligible) baby."

9:48:57

Cesarz: "Hundred and eighty knots, still cruising at Mach point six four."

9:51:51

Cesarz: "There's four-one-oh, my man."

9:51:53

Cesarz: "Made it, man."

9:54:19

Rhodes: "Yeah, that's funny, we got up here, it won't stay up here."

9:54:22

Cesarz: "Dude, it's (expletive) losing it." (Sound of laughing)

10:14:36

Cesarz: "We're not gonna make it, man, we're not gonna make it."

10:14:38

Rhodes: "Is there a road? Tell her we're not gonna make this runway."

10:14:46

Rhodes: "Let's keep the gear up. (Expletive) I don't want to go into houses here."

10:14:51

Cesarz: (Expletive) "road right there."

10:14:52

Rhodes: "Where?"

10:14:52

Cesarz: "Turn, turn..."

10:14:53

Rhodes: "Turn where?"

10:14:53

Cesarz: "Turn to your left, turn to your left."

10:14:56

Rhodes: Either: "I see it" or "I can't."

10:14:58

Warning signal in cockpit: "Too low, terrain, terrain."

10:14:59

Rhodes: "Can't make it."

10:15:03

Rhodes: "Aw (expletive). We're gonna hit houses, dude."

Source: National Transportation Safety Board


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1 posted on 06/15/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT by Capt. Canuck
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To: Capt. Canuck

Beavis and Butthead fly a jet. These guys need to be nominated for the Darwin Award.


2 posted on 06/15/2005 4:52:32 PM PDT by DGray (http://nicanfhilidh.blogspot.com)
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To: Capt. Canuck

Whoa.


3 posted on 06/15/2005 4:53:27 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Admin Moderator

Could you please pull the editorials out of this article's title? The pilots who died in this crash didn't do anything that makes them "idiots", despite what some who don't understand the issues might think, and there's no reason anyone needs to edit an article title to make fun of the dead.


4 posted on 06/15/2005 4:54:07 PM PDT by Turbopilot (Viva la Reagan Revolucion!)
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To: Capt. Canuck

These guys have been nominated for a Darwin Award, right?


5 posted on 06/15/2005 4:54:44 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Turbopilot; Admin Moderator

I second that motion.


6 posted on 06/15/2005 4:56:23 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: upchuck
These guys have been nominated for a Darwin Award, right?

No more than we'd nominate you for one if your brakes failed after you "recklessly" took your car all the way to the speed limit.
7 posted on 06/15/2005 4:57:36 PM PDT by Turbopilot (Viva la Reagan Revolucion!)
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To: Turbopilot

Well, they sound like idiots.


8 posted on 06/15/2005 4:57:42 PM PDT by anton
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To: Capt. Canuck
Investigators say the crash occurred after the pilots took the plane to 41,000 feet, an altitude where engine problems can develop.

Funny... the story on this last week said that 41,000 ft. was the upper limit of the aircraft. Now, it's past the limit and at the point where engine troubles occur.

9 posted on 06/15/2005 4:57:48 PM PDT by mwyounce
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To: anton

That recording must just be horrible for their families. No matter what one's opinion of their actions, I feel so badly for their families hearing that recording.


10 posted on 06/15/2005 4:59:03 PM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Turbopilot

I agree


11 posted on 06/15/2005 4:59:06 PM PDT by mel
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To: Turbopilot

I don't think you read the whole transcript of this incident. These guys purposely broke several FAA and company regulations during this one trip. Yes, they are dead, but that is often the result when you purposely break rules put in place to keep you from dying.


12 posted on 06/15/2005 4:59:53 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: anton

I bet if you were assigned to a work project where you were locked into a small room with little to do except talk to your lone coworker locked in with you for hours on end, and tape-recorded constantly, you might deliver something less than Ciceran oratory at some point too.


13 posted on 06/15/2005 5:01:17 PM PDT by Turbopilot (Viva la Reagan Revolucion!)
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To: Rokke
These guys purposely broke several FAA and company regulations during this one trip.

Which FARs and company regs were broken?
14 posted on 06/15/2005 5:02:03 PM PDT by Turbopilot (Viva la Reagan Revolucion!)
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To: GraceCoolidge
All of those CVRs (Cockpit Voice Recordings) are awful; at least all of the ones I've heard/read.

If you've got the stomach, check out Delta 1141 recording on this page. Haunting.

15 posted on 06/15/2005 5:04:21 PM PDT by Textide
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To: Turbopilot

Well, for starters they swapped seats after takeoff, and only reswapped after descending below 10,000ft. The list is pretty long if you'd like me to continue.


16 posted on 06/15/2005 5:04:26 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Capt. Canuck

I'm not a pilot, but I had heard that the FAA assigns planes to a particular altitude. Were these pilots breaking any rules and/or laws in deciding on their own what altitude they would go to?


17 posted on 06/15/2005 5:05:32 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Textide

I don't know if I could listen to one. I remember too there was some kind of recording from the Challenger disaster. If I recall correctly, one of the astronauts said to another (one of the last things said), "Take my hand." I think one of the speakers might have been Judith Resnick? I don't recall all of it. Haunting is the right word for it.


18 posted on 06/15/2005 5:06:26 PM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Rokke

Is this NTSB investigation NTSB ID:
DCA05MA003?


19 posted on 06/15/2005 5:06:44 PM PDT by anton
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To: anton

Nevermind, that's the one.


20 posted on 06/15/2005 5:08:38 PM PDT by anton
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