Skip to comments.Losing their heads over Gitmo (Ann Coulter)
Posted on 06/15/2005 4:58:33 PM PDT by perfect stranger
I guess Bush should have backed Katherine Harris, after all. Sen. Mel Martinez, the Senate candidate Bush backed instead of Harris, has become the first Republican to call for shutting down Guantanamo. Martinez hasn't said where the 500 or so suspected al-Qaida operatives currently at Gitmo should be transferred to, but I understand the Neverland Ranch might soon be available.
Maybe Sen. Arlen Specter the liberal Republican Bush backed instead of conservative Pat Toomey, which still didn't help Bush in Pennsylvania will step forward to defend the Bush administration. That Karl Rove is a genius.
Martinez explained his nonsensical call for the closing of Guantanamo by asking: "Is it serving all the purposes you thought it would serve when initially you began it, or can this be done some other way a little better?"
There are Arabs locked up at Guantanamo, no? Admittedly, not enough. (And not under what any frequent flier would describe as "harsh conditions.") Still and all, Arabs are locked up there. That is what we call a "purpose."
By becoming a focus of evil for human-rights groups, Martinez suggested, Guantanamo has become a recruiting tool for al-Qaida: "It's become an icon for bad stories," Martinez said, "and at some point you wonder the cost-benefit ratio." (I've been wondering the same thing about Mel Martinez.)
This is preposterous. NBC's "The West Wing" is an icon for bad stories; Gitmo is a place where we keep an eye on evil, dangerous people who want to kill us.
Martinez was borrowing a point from Sen. Joe Biden which is always a dangerous gambit because you never know who said it originally. The "Biden" version was: "I think more Americans are in jeopardy as a consequence of the perception that exists worldwide with its existence than if there were no Gitmo."
So if people around the world believe that if they try to kill Americans they might go to a bad, scary place called Guantanamo, that will make them more likely to kill Americans? How about doing a cost-benefit ratio on that analysis?
Let's also pause to ponder the image of the middle-of-the-road, "centrist" jihadist who could be "recruited" to jihad by reports about abuse at Guantanamo. You know the kind of guy who just watches al-Jazeera for the sports and hits the "mute" button whenever they start in about the Jews again, already.
Liberals want us to believe such a person exists and that he is perusing newspaper articles about Guantanamo trying to decide whether to finish his coffee and head off to work or to place a backpack filled with dynamite near a preschool.
Note to liberals: That doesn't happen.
What happens is this: There are thousands of Muslim extremists literally dying to slaughter Americans, and only three proven ways to stop them: (1) Kill them (the recommended method), (2) capture them and keep them locked up, or (3) convince them that their cause is lost. Guantanamo is useless for No. 1, but really pulls ahead on No. 2 and No. 3 (i.e., a "purpose").
Let's just hope aspiring jihadists are not reading past the headlines and discovering that what Amnesty International means by "the gulag of our time" is: No Twinkie rewards for detainees!
That's not a joke. As described in infuriating detail by Heather MacDonald in the Winter, 2005, City Journal, interrogators at Guantanamo are not allowed to:
yell at the detainees, except in extreme circumstances and only after alerting Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and never in the ears;
serve the detainees cold meals, except in extreme circumstances;
poke the detainees in the chest or engage in "light pushing" without careful monitoring and approval from the commander of the U.S. Southern Central Command in Miami;
reward detainees (for example, for not throwing feces at the guards that day) with a Twinkie or a McDonald's Filet-O-Fish sandwich in the absence of express approval from the secretary of defense. (I suppose it goes without saying, "supersizing" their order is strictly forbidden under any circumstances.)
Without careful monitoring, interrogators aren't even allowed to subject the detainees to temperature changes, unpleasant odors or sleep cycle disruptions. But on the bright side, they are allowed to play Christina Aguilera music and feed the savages the same food our soldiers eat rather than their usual orange-glazed chicken. That isn't sarcasm; these are the rules.
No cold meals, sleep deprivation or uncomfortable positions? Obviously, what we need to do is get the U.S. Army to serve drinks on commercial airlines and get the airlines to start supervising the detainees in Guantanamo.
American soldiers make do with C-rations. Dinner on an America West flight from New York to Las Vegas consists of one small bag of peanuts. Meanwhile, one recent menu for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo consisted of orange-glazed chicken, fresh fruit crepe, steamed peas and mushrooms, and rice pilaf. Sounds like the sort of thing you'd get at Windows on the World if it still existed.
That closing line is a real stinger.
Its time to tell all the whiners to STFU and all the Dems to F-off.
I am really getting sick of hearing about so called abuse at Gitmo. We have children in America who are eating less than these terrorist pigs. I say stuff pork down there throats.
So, I came across this painting on a sort of stupid site...But I figured, hey, what the heck, she still looks good, and all ya'all men have probably been hoping for a black leather picture, anyway. Stop drooling, you'll short out your keyboards. ;-)
Anne at the top of her form. Too much good stuff to even select a favorite.
I think the most eye-opening article was Michelle Malkin's recent piece on Gitmo. I don't believe many people realize the extraordinary lengths to which the military is going to accomodate inmates' religious practices, for example. It is well past the point of absurdity.
No way are we worthy. No way.
Oh, that's a devastating closing sentence. I remember reading some telephone transcripts in the NY Times, of the calls placed by the increasingly worried staffers at Window on the World while their building burned and weakened underneath them. There was nothing anyone could do to help them.
I'm not sure if that portrait is supposed to be insulting or flattering -- it's a little of both.
Ann Coulter can say stuff I wish I could.
Whats the chances of puting Dick "Dirtbag" Durbin in "GITMO" ?
There is a young man who serves in the Corps. whose parents live down the street. Some of the stories he told me were absurd. A Marine cannot pray to Jesus where a prisoner can here him. Soldier's may not wear a cross in any form, even under their uniform. The list just goes on and on. I say we start beating them with drumsticks till they break.
Yes, let's send the ragheads over to Florida for the good Senator to deal with. Other than that, I have a suggestion about what to do with those scumbags after closing Gitmo, but it would not be appropriate to publish it were on the FR. Something to do with shark feeding........
Yep. And she does it constantly. Next to Bush himself, I think she infuriates the Left more than any other individual. Her unapologetic mocking drives them crazy.
She certainly knows how to throw it back in their faces doesn't she...
I miss that place. Great food, great view!
This whole article...wow. This is on my shortlist of Coulter's best.
"Let's also pause to ponder the image of the middle-of-the-road, "centrist" jihadist who could be "recruited" to jihad by reports about abuse at Guantanamo. You know the kind of guy who just watches al-Jazeera for the sports and hits the 'mute' button whenever they start in about the Jews again, already."
A phenomenal dissection of liberals' Gitmo whining, Rove's stupid Senatorial tactics, and Martinez's comments.
The food at Gitmo may be good, but the wine list is sub-par...
bump read later
Just magnifies the writing similarities between Ms. Coulter and Ms. Dowd.
Imagine the looks I get when I say it!
This is what we get for taking prisoners. The obvious solution hardly bears mentioning.
"get the airlines to start supervising the detainees in Guantanamo" LOL
She has once again laid the absurdity of the liberal position bare to cook in the sun. Wow! What an awesome article.
Ann...I LOVE YOU!!!
Right smack in the bullseye, as usual.
I don't know hits my puke button harder, the F@#$ Dems or the Camel humpers.
Just my personal opinion guys. Flame away.
Lately it seems to have settled down to about 3-4 pics per thread.
IIRC the post the pic rule used to apply to Michelle Malkin and Laura Ingraham too, but it's not enforced by Freepers to the extent of AC threads.
It's been going on here for years. I thought it was kinda' funny for a while, but I got tired of the same old whining about "where's the required picture?" over and over. It's gotten so it's lost any charm it ever had and it's not funny anymore at all.
Still, just my humble opinion.
You mean . . .
FREEPERS ANGELS ?
Mel Martinez got in the news some weeks ago when he accidentally handed a sheet containing Republican talking points to Tom Harkin. Now it seems that Harkin or someone else has given Mel the Dim talking points - and Mel remains clueless.
All that beauty in one place will DRAW LIGHTNING!!!
I Love 'em all!!!
She nailed it there
I called Martinez's office, being a constituent of his entitled me.
Girl there claimed he did not want to shut down GITMO, just that he was afraid of what this was doing to our reputation around the world.
That's how we decide how we will proscute a war? By what a bunch of leftist appeasers, and 3rd world thugs will think of us???
As I recall, it was AMERICANS the the arab terrorists killed on 9/11.
I am sick to death of this idea that we need permission from these clowns to defend ourselves.
I am even more sick of republicans that cower and wet themselves whenever a Dim scowls at them. The republican uniform in the senate should be pink tutu's.
"So, I came across this painting on a sort of stupid site...But I figured, hey, what the heck, she still looks good, and all ya'all men have probably been hoping for a black leather picture, anyway. Stop drooling, you'll short out your keyboards. ;-)"
Geeze if I drool too much at Babes on the Internet, my wife will send me to Gitmo.