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Schiavo autopsy vindicates husband
The Guardian ^ | 16JUN05 | Jamie Wilson

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:21:37 PM PDT by familyop

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To: HairOfTheDog

(You and I differ on the motives of the people involved.)

Parents who are loving and willing to take on the responsibility of their daughter have the best motives I can think of. We will never know if a different outcome was possible.

We KNOW the "so called" husband motive was for her to die, to rid himself of this lady, but why? It was not because he wanted to move on with his life, he had already done that, so WHY?

I can see no motive from the President and Congress point of view. It is not like they gained any money as the "so called" husband did.


21 posted on 06/15/2005 8:32:47 PM PDT by HoundsTooth_BP
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To: familyop
Schiavo autopsy vindicates husband

That's a laugh. The autopsy is irrelevant, because whether she would ever recover fully is not the issue.

22 posted on 06/15/2005 8:39:27 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: familyop

It doesn't change a thing! It is still criminal to starve
a person to death when the person's family is willing to
care for her. It is downright unchristian!


23 posted on 06/15/2005 8:42:48 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: HairOfTheDog
You know, I'd guess her level of dehydration and it's effect probably occured to the medical examiners too.

There is a difference between dehydration and atrophy and the examiners are well aware of which is which.

24 posted on 06/15/2005 9:04:36 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Zevonismymuse

I would think so...


25 posted on 06/15/2005 9:07:53 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
"The MD giving the report today admitted he could not determine brain activity on a dead brain."

Yes, it does seem as though that would be a difficult task.
26 posted on 06/15/2005 9:10:56 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop

...US examiner concludes that brain damage was irreversible ...

So what. That is not what is at issue. The issue is was it degenerating?

Not fast enough for Suncoast Hospice to avoid scrutiny under Medicare guidlines.

You watch. The investigation into Suncoast Hospice for Medicare Fraud is going to come out eventually. They were not operating within those guidlines.


27 posted on 06/15/2005 9:13:05 PM PDT by planekT (Go DeLay, Go!)
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To: ambrose


Where were you today, young man?


28 posted on 06/15/2005 9:13:38 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: familyop

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I'm not surprised at the size of Terri's brain, after a month of dehydration.

They said Karen Carpenter's stomach was as big as a raisin when she starved herself to death. I suppose that was a bit of an exaggeration to scare all the anorectic young girls.


29 posted on 06/15/2005 9:17:17 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: onyx

Avoiding these threads like the plague.


30 posted on 06/15/2005 9:17:56 PM PDT by ambrose (.)
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To: pnz1
Michael Schiavo, 1/2000 Direct Testimony: states bulemia was never proved see p 27. (large file)

Michael Schiavo, 1999 Pretrial Deposition: testifies Terri was not strugglying with weight and had healthy appetite see p 15. (large file)

31 posted on 06/15/2005 9:18:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: JRochelle

Good question. ??? I'm not a medical person.

I think her marriage should have been cut off before her medical care was cut off, but that's just me.


32 posted on 06/15/2005 9:27:16 PM PDT by sweetjane
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To: ambrose


FOTFL! Smartie!


33 posted on 06/15/2005 9:33:10 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: steampower; familyop

I see someone else got the "growing new brain cells"
link out before I could! And what was the biggest recent
medical discovery (according to Discover mag of Feb or
Mar or Apr of this year)? NEUROGENESIS. Got it?


34 posted on 06/15/2005 11:43:15 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: JRochelle

When hypernatremic dehydration occurs, the brain shrinks.


35 posted on 06/15/2005 11:51:07 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: seamole

The way I read the report, he defers to a diagnosis of PVS and merely states it is a clinical diagnosis made while the patient is alive.


36 posted on 06/18/2005 12:41:30 AM PDT by Voir Dire (I'm seeing and saying.)
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To: upcountryhorseman
It is still criminal to starve a person to death when the person's family is willing to care for her. It is downright unchristian!

You are right, of course. This is the kind of case that separates the wheat from the chaff, if you will.

37 posted on 06/18/2005 12:48:13 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: familyop

How misleading is that title?????


38 posted on 06/19/2005 12:25:28 PM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: familyop
But the cause of her collapse 15 years ago remains a mystery

But the cause of her collapse and the time lapse between IT and the call to 911 15 years ago remains a mystery

39 posted on 06/19/2005 12:26:05 PM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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