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W.House rejects lawmakers' call for Iraq pullout
Yahoo News ^ | NHAntiMassRedRebel

Posted on 06/16/2005 1:04:48 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel

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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

Pull the troops out of Iraq. We've done our job. It's time to tell the new government to get it together by a certain date, because we're going home. Afghanistan, too. And Korea, and Germany, and everywhere else.

Then, put the troops on the borders. You should see the border between Iraq and Kuwait. A mouse couldn't cross it, thanks to the U.S. Let's do the same with our borders.



Well said.


21 posted on 06/16/2005 1:17:15 PM PDT by WhiteGuy ("a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all" - GW BUSH </sarcasm>)
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To: wideawake

Where are the kitty's?


22 posted on 06/16/2005 1:18:17 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
Pull the troops out of Iraq. We've done our job.

This is reminiscent of another famous example of this strategy: Gulf War I

We did our job, got the hell out, and here we are again.

How many more times are we going to have to repeat this strategy before people like you start to understand that doing the job right the first time keeps us from having to do it subsequent times?

23 posted on 06/16/2005 1:18:34 PM PDT by Egon (Your tagline offends me.)
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To: avg_freeper
No, he's right. The media never reports anything bad out of Iraq ever. For example there is a place in Iraq called Abu Ghraib where poor, put-upon, childkilling terrorists were mercilessly abused with women's underthings.

it was the worst atrocity in the history of the world and probably the universe.

But you never heard about it, because the media is all in Bush's pocket.

24 posted on 06/16/2005 1:20:05 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
Are you sure that you are on the right forum?

I'm thinking that your time here will be short.

Thank you for your service, but this old timer can tell you that anyone knows that the draft is a recipe for disaster, and that is exactly the reason that Liberal Trash wants it.

I'd love to put troops on the border, but that isn't going to happen because of that little Constitution thing, and the US stays in Iraq until the job is done.

And coming here and insulting Rumsfeld marks you as a troll, and a rather dumb one, at that.
25 posted on 06/16/2005 1:20:23 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: TommyDale
We will withdraw when the job is finished. Period.

The job will never be "finished" so long as there are professional politicians and other parasites seeking to profit from government confiscation of assets and liberties.

Witness the "War on Poverty", "War on Drugs" and all the other endless "wars" on free citizens.

26 posted on 06/16/2005 1:21:26 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: AllThingsMilitary

I didn't know Free Republic allowed commercial pages on your profile page.

Nor should they. Anyone else have a problem with this?


27 posted on 06/16/2005 1:22:47 PM PDT by listenhillary (Socialists have only killed 100 million. We'll never learn will we?)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

I don't care if you sormed the walls at Chaputepec.... go to hell!


28 posted on 06/16/2005 1:23:01 PM PDT by johnny7 ('Mama T' has seen her husbands 'dishonorable discharge'.)
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To: Egon

Well we've got a few RINO's defecting on this to join the Dems attempting to embarass Bush. I'm pretty confident Hastert/Delay/Blunt and the rest of the House leadership is going to stand strong and support our President.


29 posted on 06/16/2005 1:23:05 PM PDT by Pop Fly
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To: Egon

Technically the Gulf War has never ended. That's the point.

As I was ETS'ing the VA Rep asked me if I was a Gulf War veteran post 1990. I replied that I wasn't, but was in OIF. The VA rep said that if you served in the AOR from August 1990 to present you were a veteran in the same war.

Remember the no-fly zones? Khobar Towers? Desert Fox? All that stuff was and is the same war that is going on today. Technically the Gulf War never ended, just like Korea is still technically a war.

Get 'em out, get 'em home. And if you think I'm a troll,
f--- you. I voted twice for Bush and would never in hell vote for a Masshole Flatlander like Kerry!


31 posted on 06/16/2005 1:24:15 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: AllThingsMilitary
Yeah, right.

We have overstayed nothing.
Security guards? Who beat your whiny ass up in Iraq?

We are there to build a functioning democracy in the flash point of the world, and you want to cut and run from a situation that will profoundly affect the security of the free world forever?
Take a breath, crunchie.
32 posted on 06/16/2005 1:26:31 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

Who funds the insurgents? Answer that question, then bomb the sh#$ out of whoever it is, and I do mean whoever! Even if it's a supposed "friend" - though I reckon it's more likely Syria and Iran.


33 posted on 06/16/2005 1:26:54 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Blzbba
Are you implying that those that do not agree are not FReepers who think for themselves?

If, not, why did you think it necessary to include that?
35 posted on 06/16/2005 1:28:40 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
I think that our mistake was in getting too involved in setting up the new Government of Iraq, after our intitial victory. That involvement was ill conceived, based upon the theorizing of certain people in Washington. Now it is difficult to immediately extricate ourselves, without losing "Face."

Personally, I posted an essay at my website, immediately after September 11, 2001, as to how the War on Terror should be fought. The events over the almost four years since, certainly seem to affirm the approach that I advocated. (War 2001--The Shortest, Surest Path To Victory!)

By the way, I checked out your profile, and want to commend you for your stalwart defense of your State's values and heritage. We have far too few, today, willing to preserve their cultures and lines of descent. Those who do not realize the importance of such preservation, may prattle about "diversity." But if they do not even respect their own, they really are not likely to respect any one else's character. "Diversity" has become a moronic excuse for a nihilistic betrayal of heritage. We, as all other peoples, stand to lose everything we value, in the acceptance of an undifferentiated humanity--the ultimate insult to all of the higher aspirations of the human spirit.

William Flax

36 posted on 06/16/2005 1:28:45 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
Remember the no-fly zones? Khobar Towers? Desert Fox? All that stuff was and is the same war that is going on today. Technically the Gulf War never ended, just like Korea is still technically a war.

I remember. If we had actually completed the task the first time, there would have been no need for any of that crap. The first war, although it would have taken much longer, would actually be over, and we wouldn't be there now.

That's the point.

We'll leave when it's stable. Anything short of that is going to cost many more lives than are currently being spent.

37 posted on 06/16/2005 1:29:22 PM PDT by Egon (Your tagline offends me.)
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To: bill1952

To be quite honest, I'd rather have a dictator we could control (for example, Joseph Desire Mobutu) then a democracy subject to voting anti-American politicians into office.

Are we better off that South Korea was allowed to have democracy?, now, we have South Korean pols criticizing us, meanwhile we're the only thing that keeps Pyongyang from snapping back in there and embarking upon "unification"


38 posted on 06/16/2005 1:29:31 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (If you want Siegelman to win a 2nd term, by all means, vote for Roy Moore in the primary)
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To: Billthedrill

I must have missed the reply to your question.


39 posted on 06/16/2005 1:31:07 PM PDT by kallisti
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

One thing is certain. We could continue the effort and expense in Irag for a hundred years and the situation would be the same. The whole Middle East has not moved forwad one iota in the last 2000 years.

So the question is, how long should we continue? Ten, fifteen, fifty, a hundred years or longer?

Democracy, as we know it, will come to the Middle East when camels can recite the Theory of Relativity while standing on their heads.

Time to go folks.


40 posted on 06/16/2005 1:31:25 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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