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Floor Statement by Senator Richard J. Durbin on Guantanamo Bay<br> June 14, 2005
The State Journal-Register Springfield, Illinois ^ | June 14, 2005 | Senator Richard Durbin of Illinois

Posted on 06/17/2005 10:41:23 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: The Shrew

Ping to #16.


21 posted on 06/17/2005 1:29:08 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

pinged for later, in case he tries to weasel out of his lies.


22 posted on 06/17/2005 1:56:55 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Durbin is a TRAITOR. If terrorist are to be treated as POWs in accordance with the convention, then the people who did the first World trade Center Bombing should be sent home as they were committing acts under the protection of the Geneva Convention.

But the Convention is clear if you are not representing a country and have no uniform and are not part of a legal armed force then you can be executed for any act that brings or attempts to bring harm to the civilians or the military of the Nation you are attacking.
23 posted on 06/17/2005 2:00:24 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Interesting Times; Shaka; YOUGOTIT; mrmargaritaville
Now he is apologizing:

Senator regrets if remarks misunderstood (Dick d'Turban Durbin)

24 posted on 06/17/2005 4:53:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"During the Civil War, President Lincoln, one of our greatest presidents, suspended habeas corpus, which gives prisoners the right to challenge their detention. The Supreme Court stood up to the President and said prisoners have the right to judicial review even during war.

Let me read what that Court said:

The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine, involving more pernicious consequences, was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions could be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism.

Mr. President, those words still ring true today. The Constitution is a law for this administration, equally in war and in peace. If the Constitution could withstand the Civil War, when our nation was literally divided against itself, surely it will withstand the war on terrorism."

1) the soldiers of the Civil war, of both sides, were AMERICAN CITIZENS and subject to our Constitution, be they "rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances." The terrorists are not. Even the ones that are, by taking sides with enemies of the U.S., should be either shot as traitors, or stripped of their citizenship and treated as one of the foreign terrorists.

If Turban Durbin wants to apply the Constitution to all the people of the world, then let him start with oppressed peoples (like Iraq for instance?) rather than terrorists. He is applying the ACLU standard of more rights for criminals than honest citizens.

2) the detainees are not even subject to the Geneva Convention stipulations, as they are neither signatories nor abide by any of the rules therein.


25 posted on 06/17/2005 6:43:35 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (Liberals are enablers for terrorists and other anti-American groups.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yep, I'm on the case of Dickie Durbin. He is a disgrace, even when measured only against Democrat Senators (which is a very low standard). The FR poll and FR discussions on Durbin inspired me to write my column immediately and to file it early.

See below.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Say It Isn't So, Dickie Boy"

26 posted on 06/17/2005 7:16:53 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Just Excellent, thanks for the Link!


27 posted on 06/17/2005 7:34:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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