Skip to comments.Korans burned; hate crime eyed
Posted on 06/17/2005 12:13:58 PM PDT by JZelle
BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) -- Police are investigating whether a hate crime took place when someone left a bag of burned Korans in front of an Islamic center. Members of the Islamic Center of Blacksburg were shocked when they arrived at the building for Saturday prayers and found a plastic shopping bag filled with burned copies of the Koran at the front door. "It is a shame that people are so ignorant," said Idris Adjerid, 20, a member of the center. Mr. Adjerid told the Roanoke Times that he has attended the center since 1997 and nothing like this has happened before. Blacksburg police Lt. Donnie Goodman reported the incident to the Virginia State Police, which compiles hate crime statistics. But he said the department is not sure whether the Koran burning is a hate crime. For the incident to be considered a hate crime, police must be able to show that the act was meant to intimidate or harass, he said. Kevin Foust, the agent in charge of the Roanoke FBI office, said yesterday that his office is helping in the investigation. He declined to speculate whether the incident would be classified as a hate crime under state or federal law. Mark Potok, a spokesman for the Montgomery, Ala.-based Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate crimes nationally, said he doubts the incident would be considered a crime. "I think it amounts to a biased incident as opposed to an actual crime," he said. "It was certainly intended as an act of hatred toward Muslims, but you can burn a stack of Bibles and what are they going to do about it?" Laila Al-Qatami, a spokeswoman for the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in Washington, questioned how police could consider the act anything other than a hate crime.
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Well if whoever did it had NEA funding, then it should be considered art.
Never were truer words spoken. Too bad he doesn't know who's ignorant.
No crime - public service
Ummm . . . you're the one attending the mosque, sweetcakes.
"It was certainly intended as an act of hatred toward Muslims, but you can burn a stack of Bibles and what are they going to do about it?"
He CAN'T be suggesting that Christians and Muslims are treated equally under the law? (sarc)
Unlike the jihadis who burn people and then hang their charred corpses from bridges......
If this is a hate crime, then I guess flag burning is also.
Hajis don't consider a translation an actual Koran and would have no qualms burning some to gin up a hoax.
There is no such thing as a hate crime.
It's an expression of free speech. What's the big deal?
I doubt it. It would be considered protected free speech. I really can't blame Ms. Al-Qatami for her ignorance, though, as a goodly portion of the population is just as uninformed.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has spoken. Idris Adjerid needs to STFU.
Some things deserve and ought to be hated.
The same people that say that comparing our soliders to Nazis at a time of war is free speech waste no time classifying this as a "hate crime." The perils of moral relativism.
The crime should be not burning enough of them .. . . .
WTC pictures are in order on this thread.
Well this seems like a new twist. Previously, "hate crimes" were just considered an aggravated version of ordinary crimes. But now we have something that normally wouldn't even be considered criminal at all, being a potential "hate crime" if the people doing it had the wrong thoughts in mind when doing it.
It is art, or free speech. Just like the urine in the communion cup by the sodomites in New York. It was not considered a crime at all when they urinated in the communion cup, but an act that showed Christians were bad people.
What a waste of taxpayer resources...
I think this guy should be happy that it wasn't a burning bag of crap that was left on his door.
Well as far as the Muslims go
"Oderint dum metuant"
Roughly, let them hate, as long as they fear.
So, fine them for incineration of garbage without a permit, and let them be on their way.
If you bought it, you can burn it. Koran, flag or bible.
Nope, that wasn't a hate crime. The hate crime was what happens in the media every day. Burning a koran is actually mild. Saying burning korans is a hate crime is like saying lining the bird cage with the NY Times is a hate crime.
Islam, now that's a hate crime.
What'd really get 'em crazy is footage of some midwest farmer tearing pages out of the koran, wrapping bacon around them and feeding them to his pigs.
OK, someone tell me how you make this into a crime.
If the burner owned the korans, are you telling me he cannot lawfully burn them?
Is our justice system completely nuts nowadays?
Who would have thought that the muslims did this themselves to gather sympathy. Soon enough CAIR would announce islamophobia, and inter-faith discussion should be conducted in the neighborhood.
There are no moderate muslims. If you had to differentiate between the jihadists and moderate muslims, here is: the jihadists wanted the power now, on the other hand, moderate muslims would wait until they get enough leverage and take over.
islam domination is their goal. Even the co-founder of CAIR Omar Ahmad said it:
.. "Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam ... Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." ..
Absolutely not true. The stupid reporter asked if it would be investigated as a hate crime and the response was, "I won't speculate on that".
That answer is more diplomatic than "Are you effing nuts?", but it allowed misrepresenting and distorting the facts.
Surely this is simply performance art.
And let's not forget that bibles are seized, desecrated and burned in Saudi Arabia at all times, by law.
The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings.
As a matter of official policy, the government either incinerates or dumps bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia.
Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Bibles and other Christian paraphernalia found with travelers into the country are confiscated and destroyed.
Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.
Recently, there has been a crackdown on symbols of Christianity in Saudi Arabia. On April 21st Saudi authorities raided a make-shift church in Riyadh and arrested 40 Christians. Many Christian religious symbols, such as crucifixes and bibles were later destroyed by Saudi security forces.
Thank God I can't get charged for "Hate Thought".
My church (Disciples of Christ) burned down at the end of last year. It was first termed "suspicious," then finally determined to be an arson. But on one - not the FBI who investigated it, nor the papers that reported it mentioned the term "Hate Crime."
It's a fairly quiet, 99% white, conservative church - reckon that had anything to do with it?
How come people can burn the American flag & it ain't "hate" speech, but is free speech?
Bibles...hell you can burn a stack of Christians and Jews
and the Muslim world throws a block party...
Meanwhile burn some Muzzie books and our government puckers
And their fellow traveling Lefties seize the opportunity to
damage the republic..at every oppportunity helping to stir
the Muzzies up.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is itself a hate organization. Several black employees who worked for this organization complained of discrimination and racism from the organization's top white officials towards its black employees.
Burning your own bought and paid for copies of the book that trains zealots to despise us, and incites them into expressing their hatred by murdering us, is a crime.......a hate crime?
How come the laws that are supposed to protect our rights as US Citizens, protects our enemies instead of us by proclaiming that it is the First amendment right of every sonovabitch who hates our guts, to burn our flag as a form of protected speech????
It is a crime against nature to enact laws that make it a crime to hate what or whom, are so unnaturally hateful, that hating them is a rational and natural reaction for normal human beings.
Muslimism allows us only three reactions to their demands: Fear them-hate them-submit to them. A sane person will fear beady eyed lunatic zealots of any persuasion, but the brave will hate the sonovabitches too much to ever submit to them, as long as they have a breath in their body.
Burning perfectly good toilet paper???
What???? No dog poop?
Hate crime, well if there is something I can't stand it's something I don't like.
I guess you wouldn't get any diversity brownie points if you pissed on them to put out the fire.
If it does turn out to be a self inflicted hate crime, it will be posted in small print and short article, deep inside that copy of the nation's News Papers, and/or ignored entirely by the broadcast media , or whispered by Newsmen/women, with larengitis, between one AM and four AM, in each time zone.
I'm betting similar coverage should the cross burnings in Durham, NC also turn out to be less than beneficial to the agenda of the politically correct.
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