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Buyer Demands Apology From Sen. Durbin
WISH ^ | 6/17

Posted on 06/17/2005 1:18:17 PM PDT by ambrose

Buyer Demands Apology From Sen. Durbin

An Indiana congressman is demanding an apology from a US senator.

The issue is what the senate's number two Democrat said on the Senate floor this week about how prisoners are treated at Guantanamo Bay. The White House is angry and Indiana Congressman Steve Buyer is among several Republicans who are demanding an apology.

Illinois senior Senator Richard Durbin quoted an FBI report on conditions at Guantanamo Bay.

"On one occasion the air conditioning had been turned down so far the temperature in the room was so cold the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold,” he read. He went on to say: “If I read this to you, and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime, Pol Pot or others, that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that's not the case. This is the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

The White House is reacting. "I think the senator’s remarks are reprehensible. It's a real disservice to our men and women in uniform who adhere to high standards and uphold our values and our laws,” said Scott McClellan, White House spokesman.

Rep. Steve Buyer, as chairman of the House veterans affairs committee, is demanding an apology. "Senator Durbin's comparison is irresponsible and dangerous. The torment of having to listen to extremely loud music or room temperature fluctuations can in no way ever be compared to the horror of humans being herded to gas chambers and others being summarily executed,” Buyer said. "While the senator might believe his rhetoric will further his party and politics, it does nothing but undermine our troops fighting for freedom in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Sen. Durbin is refusing to apologize and issued a statement saying President Bush should apologize for "authorizing torture techniques." He also returned to the Senate floor Thursday night to reread his original statement, saying he wanted the context of his remarks to be understood.

"To suggest I was attributing all the signs and horror and barbarism of Nazi Germany, Soviet Republic or Pol Pot to Americans is totally unfair,” Durbin said. Under hostile questioning from two Republican senators, Durbin said his point was that the type of treatment reported from Guantanamo was more in keeping with repressive regimes, not a democracy like the United States.

Meanwhile, al-Jazeera has picked up the story worldwide. Congressman Buyer told News 8, "Senator Durbin needs to retract his cavalier and careless words. At this moment, his comments are being used all over the Arab world by al-Jazeera to motivate our enemies and undermine the success of our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq."


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Indiana; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; apology; dirtbin; durbin; durbintheturban; durbinturban; stevebuyer; turbandurban

1 posted on 06/17/2005 1:18:17 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: ambrose

Rumsfeld Promises Durbin Better Treatment at Gitmo
by Scott Ott

(2006-06-16) -- Just a day after Democrat Sen. Dick Durbin compared U.S. personnel at the military detention facility at Guantanamo to those who worked in Nazi concentration camps, Soviet gulags and in Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge regime, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld promised the Illinois Senator that he would receive better treatment during his own Gitmo captivity.

"The unspeakable cruelties that Sen. Durbin decried on the Senate floor must stop before his own detention on treason charges," said Mr. Rumsfeld. "After all, Dick Durbin is an American citizen, not an ordinary enemy combatant bent on destroying this nation and increasing the danger to our troops by inflaming the passions of the Muslim world."

A spokesman said Sen. Durbin is still a free man and a patriot, and he has drafted legislation renaming a favorite Gitmo menu item to reflect his solidarity with the oppressed Muslim inmates.

Under the measure, the dish made of ground, spiced and fried chick peas would be called: "Freedom Falafel."


2 posted on 06/17/2005 1:19:25 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: Thumbellina

I can't hardly imagine too much A/C.


3 posted on 06/17/2005 1:22:06 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: ambrose

I absolutely can not believe it!! I'm actually witnessing Republicans growing a SPINE against the DNC / DemonRat corruption!!!

ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com


4 posted on 06/17/2005 1:22:30 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: All

I am embarrassed to admit that I live in Illinois.


5 posted on 06/17/2005 1:24:32 PM PDT by Max Flatow
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To: txflake

I live in Hawaii and I don't have A/C! GO RUMMY!!!


6 posted on 06/17/2005 1:25:03 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: ambrose

A house divided against itself can not stand. The "house" (our nation) must come to grips with these traitorous fools if we are going to defend our homeland. Our brave men and women at risk under enemy guns are more at risk because of the idiot senator's remarks. Where are the mothers of our service men and women protesting Durbin? They found enough of them to lead by the nose around the country cursing our war effort. The left has truly become a fifth column of Quislings!


7 posted on 06/17/2005 1:28:34 PM PDT by Eaglerage
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To: Thumbellina

Steve Buyer for President. At last a Republican who calls em as he sees em.


8 posted on 06/17/2005 1:29:08 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: txflake

Last week we had dinner at BW3's and got the same treatment with the A/C. At first I thought it was just uncomfortable, but thanks to Sen. Durbin, now I know I was being deliberately tortured in the same way as people in the Gulag!

Where's my lawyer! I'm a victim! I'm entitled to big dollars!


9 posted on 06/17/2005 1:29:36 PM PDT by henkster (When democrats talk of "the rich," they are referring to anyone with a private sector job.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I agree!


10 posted on 06/17/2005 1:30:51 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: Eaglerage

First post?


11 posted on 06/17/2005 1:31:56 PM PDT by johnny7 ('Mama T' has seen her husbands 'dishonorable discharge'.)
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To: OXENinFLA; ambrose

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424993/posts
Durbin blames media for 'Nazi' flap

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1424850/posts
BUYER DEMANDS APOLOGY FROM ILLINOIS SENATOR

Oxen, did I see you start a thread before with the PDF file on this? Can you add the link? I find cross linking similar topics helpful for if we have to go back to find something.


12 posted on 06/17/2005 1:34:10 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ambrose

As long as the buyer has a receipt and stands in the exchange line, the sought after apology should be easy to acquire.


13 posted on 06/17/2005 1:34:19 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: Eaglerage

Bump!

And welcome to FR!


14 posted on 06/17/2005 1:35:22 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Eaglerage

Durbin is from Illinois, and that's a safe seat for any liberal.

That's why he did it instead of someone else. I'm very sure that it was planned.

I think the Democrats are in worse shape than anyone's letting on.. They had a chance to nominate someone decent for party chairman, like Martin Frost but decided to go with Dean. That tells us how clueless they really are. It's not what they say...it's what they don't say.

If Democrat powerbrokers throw Dean under a bus, the base will revolt even more and many will desert the party. For this reason alone, he may be left in place.

I'm going to start watching the 2006 Senate races more closely than I normally would have. If it looks like the Republicans are headed for sixty seats, I'm going to start buying precious metals and looking for piece of land in the boonies to build a house on. The last time the nation was this polarized was just before the Civil War...and I think we're gonna have another one.

I don't think there's any way out of it now.


15 posted on 06/17/2005 1:35:47 PM PDT by rootvg (Democratic Pathology)
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To: woodb01

They are not growing spines. Folks - this is a huge softball. Even Republicans, perhaps, may feel emboldened to speak out against a Senator's gaffe comparing our troops to nazi's. For gosh sakes.


16 posted on 06/17/2005 1:39:11 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ambrose

Since Derbin is too stuborn a arrogant jackass to apologize or too d@mn stupid to understand that he owes an apology to the people who love this country and our troops,with the same ferverence with which he hates it and them-he should be removed from office through a recall election, by the embarrassed and dissappointed Illinois voters, who surely must be embarrassed for him and for ever electing him.


17 posted on 06/17/2005 1:39:20 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Progressivism : a brain eating bacteria, that eats, craps and departs, leaving only sh*t for brains.)
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To: ambrose

You know, if Congress were forced to go without A/C from May - September, they'd recess for that length of time. Not a bad idea, eh?


18 posted on 06/17/2005 1:41:42 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Max Flatow
I am embarrassed to admit that I live in Illinois.

Don't be.

We are witnessing something that's only happened once before in the history of our country, the death and disappearance of a political party. Durban is speeding it along by having his political death throes in public.

19 posted on 06/17/2005 1:45:40 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: ambrose

actually the dems are not handling this Durbin thing very well. Durbin should have issued an apology right away and enough of this would have blown over so dems could focus on "the memo" and other items on their agenda. instead now they have to defend this over the weekend.


20 posted on 06/17/2005 1:51:07 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Balding_Eagle

I think you're on to something.


21 posted on 06/17/2005 1:52:49 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ambrose
Meanwhile, al-Jazeera has picked up the story worldwide. Congressman Buyer told News 8, "Senator Durbin needs to retract his cavalier and careless words. At this moment, his comments are being used all over the Arab world by al-Jazeera to motivate our enemies and undermine the success of our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq."

Bingo...

22 posted on 06/17/2005 1:53:15 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: ambrose
It is depressing to have an IDIOT like Durbin helping make laws for true American to live by.
23 posted on 06/17/2005 1:57:45 PM PDT by solo gringo (Liberal democrats And Flori-duh judges are parasites)
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To: ambrose


Senator Dick Turban



Friend of the mujahadeen and Protector of al Qaeda


24 posted on 06/17/2005 1:58:26 PM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: plain talk

The silence of the democrats on this subject is deafening.


25 posted on 06/17/2005 2:06:45 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: plain talk

They are not growing spines. Folks - this is a huge softball. Even Republicans, perhaps, may feel emboldened to speak out against a Senator's gaffe comparing our troops to nazi's. For gosh sakes.

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Fact is, with the ANTI-AMERICAN, and ANTI-CONSERVATIVE, we hate ALL Republican media actually reporting this, it means that the flames of hell are coming from hordes of Republicans and the media's only allowing a very small amount through their we hate conservatives filter.

ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com


26 posted on 06/17/2005 2:49:03 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: ambrose
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!!!

Link to contact your senator
Link to contact your representative


ABC CBS NBC CNN its all the SAME, Propaganda.
Might as well call them all AmeriJazerra.
Show them how much Gravitas Hugh Bris has. Vote with your remote! Shut down the Alphabet channels.

He's Got A Plan
Zippo Hero
Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

Don't be a know nothing do nothing dumbocrap!

"Hitlery's legal stance on everything

27 posted on 06/17/2005 2:59:46 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Man, You should have seen them, kickin Edgar Allen Poe! Koo Koo Kachoo)
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To: Thumbellina
""I live in Hawaii and I don't have A/C! GO RUMMY!!!

Ya....but you have windows to let in the ocean breezes. Try no A/C in Virginia during the summer and get back to me.

28 posted on 06/17/2005 3:08:21 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Max Flatow
I am embarrassed to admit that I live in Illinois.

Maybe this is an occasion for that "don't ask - don't tell" rule to be applied. :o)

29 posted on 06/17/2005 3:38:52 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: Godebert

You poor thang, good point.


30 posted on 06/17/2005 3:41:40 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: Max Flatow
I am embarrassed to admit that I live in Illinois.

It could be worse. You could hail from Ohio.


31 posted on 06/17/2005 3:42:01 PM PDT by rdb3 (What you want? Morning sickness or sickness from mourning? --Nick Cannon)
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To: rootvg

"The last time the nation was this polarized was just before the Civil War,and i think were going to have another one."You may be right.A few years ago i would have thought that a (Civil War)could never happen again.Something needs to be done.Our country is being destroyed from the inside out.


32 posted on 06/17/2005 4:01:33 PM PDT by thombo
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To: thombo; rootvg
Our country is being destroyed from the inside out.

If I may offer Lincoln's prophetic words on this....especially the last five sentences.... "Abraham Lincoln, 27 January 1838: " "At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. "

33 posted on 06/17/2005 4:23:18 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: thombo

I lived in the South for almost a decade, and the socioeconomic and cultural disconnect that exists between the regions is stunning.

When I go home to the Rust Belt, there's a desperation about the place. Even the upper middle class people I went to high school and college with seem to be just skating by. It's insidious. Nothing seems to be the same as it was even twenty years ago.

When I go back to Dallas or travel to the burbs of Atlanta or Raleigh or DC, those areas seem so prosperous. I see new cars and houses everywhere and money seems to have no value.

We need some strong, centrist leadership in the worst way imaginable, but I don't know how it's ever going to happen.

What we need is a modern day Eisenhower...and a US Congress to back him up.


34 posted on 06/17/2005 4:24:05 PM PDT by rootvg (Democratic Pathology)
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To: Godebert
Try no A/C in Virginia during the summer and get back to me.

I understand perfectly.

No A/C here in North Carolina

It gets a little warm!

35 posted on 06/17/2005 5:34:53 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: ambrose

Rep. Buyer is a real good guy. (He was my representative for 10 years or so, until some libs moved his district, trying to hurt him.) Thanks for the post.


36 posted on 06/17/2005 9:20:11 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: plain talk
Not that the DSM ever had legs but Durbin vile remarks and antisemitic literature at Conyers' witch hunt are nice touches.
37 posted on 06/17/2005 11:18:56 PM PDT by ncountylee
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To: Calpernia

FBI Memo Durbin quoted from

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1425138/posts


38 posted on 06/18/2005 5:55:47 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Bump! Thank you. Bookmarked.


39 posted on 06/18/2005 6:46:09 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: OXENinFLA
Video of Dick Durbin comparing US servicemen to nazis on the Senate floor...
40 posted on 06/18/2005 1:45:25 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: rootvg

"even the upper-middle class people i went to HS+college with are just skating by...."Your right.A few of my family still live in the Buffalo,NY area.An Aunt(who worked 20+yrs for the city)told me that Buffalo is one of a few US cities that is actually losing population.One of my cousins was an officer with the BPD.Very dangerous areas.Decrepit/run down buildings that the owners don't even bother with.Simply abandoned.


41 posted on 06/19/2005 12:51:43 PM PDT by thombo
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