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Regrets? Durbin has one
Sun Times ^ | 6/18/05 | REBECCA CARROLL

Posted on 06/18/2005 5:29:29 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Friday he regretted any misunderstandings caused by his comments earlier this week comparing American interrogators at Guantanamo Bay to Nazis.

The White House, Senate Republicans and others had called for an apology after Durbin's comments Tuesday.

Durbin made the comparison after reading an FBI agent's report describing detainees at the Naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as being chained to the floor without food or water in extreme temperatures.

''If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings,'' Durbin said Tuesday.

On Friday, Durbin tried to clarify the issue. ''I have learned from my statement that historical parallels can be misused and misunderstood. I sincerely regret if what I said caused anyone to misunderstand my true feelings: Our soldiers around the world and their families at home deserve our respect, admiration and total support," he said in another statement.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: durbin; durbinladen; news; nonapology; regrets
Bubba is still a hero too.
1 posted on 06/18/2005 5:29:29 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
If the republicans had any stones, which they don't, they would invoke proceedings to remove Turban Durbin from office (takes a 2/3 vote).
2 posted on 06/18/2005 5:31:36 AM PDT by Founding Father ( Republicans control the Oval Office, Senate and House, but still can't govern.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Friday he regretted any misunderstandings caused by his comments

His regrets stem from everyone UNDERSTANDING him, not from misunderstanding him.

3 posted on 06/18/2005 5:38:00 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

What "the dick" regrets is that (he thinks) we took what he said wrong - he doesn't regret what he said one iota. Keep talking turban-durbin... please.


4 posted on 06/18/2005 5:38:04 AM PDT by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

If that was an apology, I am the queen of England. This sorry POS is an abarrassement to this country and a threat to our armed forces.


5 posted on 06/18/2005 5:38:27 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"I have learned from my statement that historical parallels can be misused and misunderstood."

And I have learned that Dirtbin is a scumbag and a POS.

6 posted on 06/18/2005 5:45:52 AM PDT by rickmichaels (God Bless America, Land That I Love)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Durbin didnt mis speak he saw a chance to fire a cheap shot at the Bush administration and he took it. What he is sorry for is that it backfired on him.

The rest of his Dem pals would have done the same thing. America means nothing to them unless they are running it.


7 posted on 06/18/2005 5:47:55 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

he regrets the YOU misunderstood him....it is all your fault, not his.



8 posted on 06/18/2005 5:48:37 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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To: rickmichaels; Piquaboy; LibSnubber; Balding_Eagle; Founding Father; Tumbleweed_Connection

At the VERY LEAST, Durbin needs to be censored, and we all need to make that happen by calling both of our Senators.


9 posted on 06/18/2005 5:49:49 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: demkicker

Me, call senator Harkin! I may as well go out and talk to a fence post.


10 posted on 06/18/2005 5:52:10 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
We MUST get Durbin to show us that FBI agent's memo he's quoting from. I understand it's HIS reading of it and it's open to INTERPRETATION. Put the memo on the internet, Durbin Laden, and let us freepers take a gander at it like freeper Buckhead did with the Rather "document".

Please release it, let it go
'Cause we don't trust you any mo
To live a lie is more than low
So release it, traitor, let it go.

Leni

11 posted on 06/18/2005 5:53:28 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Remember, Half the People You Know are Below Average)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Dick "Turban" Durbin Laden


12 posted on 06/18/2005 5:54:36 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: Piquaboy
That's exactly what you should do! Sean Hannity had Newt & Zell on his show yesterday and it was agreed that unless these Democrat senators hear from their outraged constituents demanding Durbin's censure, it won't happen.

Please make the calls....

13 posted on 06/18/2005 5:55:39 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Our soldiers around the world and their families at home deserve our respect, admiration and total support,"

Is he talking about the Nazi or Gulag guards??

Pray for W and Our Troops

14 posted on 06/18/2005 5:57:34 AM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Friday

This creep calculates a Friday afternoon limp statement for the Saturday papers, zero circulation.

16 posted on 06/18/2005 6:03:26 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (http://hour9.blogspot.com/)
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To: MinuteGal
Leni, the memo is on the internet here (PDF document).

And here's an index of released documents.

The one Durbin read is down near the bottom and dated 08/02/04.

17 posted on 06/18/2005 6:06:41 AM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

He made the first comments late in the day too. I think he was trying to preach to the faithful DUmmies without anyone else noticing. So he used an empty Senate chamber.

I'm not sure how the story got out, but I first heard of it being broadcast on Laura Ingram the next morning. Is she the one who broke it?


18 posted on 06/18/2005 6:11:29 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Founding Father
Senate Republican's either are not listening to their base... or their so infatuated with 'comity' that they've turned queer on us.

I choose the latter.

19 posted on 06/18/2005 6:11:41 AM PDT by johnny7 ('Mama T' has seen her husbands 'dishonorable discharge'.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
As I posted yesterday on a thread similar to this one...
Sorry DICK.

Too late DICK.

Shudda, wooda, cuda, DICK.

You messed up DICK.

Big time DICK.

True contrition would be to go before you Senate colleagues and truly apologize to the soldiers at Gitmo and elsewhere.

But even after that,

The damage is done DICK.

The message has been sent loud and clear DICK.

Nothing can cause the message to be cancelled DICK.

Just what you and your treasonous friends wanted DICK.

Hope yer happy DICK.

DICK is a sleazebag scumball.


20 posted on 06/18/2005 6:11:44 AM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: upchuck
Thanks, but I want to see the WHOLE memo. What we're seeing is obviously a redacted copy.

Durbin is smart. He'll say he can't release the rest of the memo for national security reasons.....yeah!

Leni

21 posted on 06/18/2005 6:20:23 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Remember, Half the People You Know are Below Average)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Senator Durbin has done a non-mea culpa "mea culpa."
22 posted on 06/18/2005 6:41:49 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
For what is a man, what has he got? If not himself, then he has naught.

Sen. Durbin, you are a nothing. You are a heartless, soul-less shell of a man; you have sold out your country for personal and political gain. If you possess a conscience it should be hard for you to live with yourself right now, because I know I am having trouble living with your destructive, hate-filled statements. I hope you get everything you deserve, you lying traitor, and the sooner the better.

23 posted on 06/18/2005 6:46:11 AM PDT by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: upchuck
Leni, the memo is on the internet here (PDF document).

A few odd things about this memo.

(1) It starts off describing two observations wherein the detainees had urinated on themselves in most cases. Most of two would be what?

(2) The agent describes a total of five observations, all of them negative. Was this the total number he observed, or was he instructed to report only negative things?

(3) The agent observed a detainee in a room without food or water. Is he insinuating that he was being starved? I am in a room right now without food or water.

(4) He describes a detainee who had apparently pulled his hair out. Doesn't this say more about the fanaticism of the detainee than the behavior of the interrogators?

Bottom line ... the purpose of this memo and the motivation of the agent are suspect. I hope someone looks into it.

24 posted on 06/18/2005 6:48:56 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Piquaboy

Call Harkin anyway - if nothing else to register your feelings and aggravate his staff. That's what you pay him for. :o) They're all holding their fingers to the wind.


25 posted on 06/18/2005 6:49:25 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

There was no misunderstanding. Durbin is a traitor.


26 posted on 06/18/2005 6:49:37 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Absolutely, screw the regret crap, everyone with half a brain realizes what this creep meant. His heart is with the terrorists, America is his enemy. Big Dick needs to have the gonads to stand up for his convictions. He's out there for the gays..., stop being a damn hypocrite, do as you tell them to do.
27 posted on 06/18/2005 6:56:44 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (http://hour9.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Well, there is the lame non-apologizing apology. Thursday a FEW Republican Senators made a little noise on the floor of the Senate.
Next the Democrats circle the wagons and blame the Republicans.
We are already seeing the MSM rally behind Durbin.
This flap will be over by July 1.
28 posted on 06/18/2005 7:09:59 AM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: MinuteGal
Please release it, let it go

'Cause we don't trust you any mo

To live a lie is more than low

So release it, traitor, let it go.

Very good. I especially like 'mo'....

FMCDH(BITS)

29 posted on 06/18/2005 7:18:39 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Founding Father

I think that would play into the moonbat's hands.

Revenge is a dish best served cold. Think of how delicious it would be to beat him in an election or have him decide that it wasn't even worth running because of this.

For now - let's keep him around and hope he says more stupid things!


30 posted on 06/18/2005 7:21:28 AM PDT by Scarchin (www.classdismissedblog.com.)
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To: johnny7
Senate Republican's either are not listening to their base... or their so infatuated with 'comity' that they've turned queer on us.

I choose the latter.

I choose both---we ain't the base. The big, and I mean BIG, money is the base and they get listened to. We don't get listened to because we're not the base.

31 posted on 06/18/2005 7:21:30 AM PDT by Founding Father ( Republicans control the Oval Office, Senate and House, but still can't govern.)
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To: Founding Father
Woodrow Wilson had Eugene Debs, a Presidential candidate, charged with sedition and thrown in prison for criticizing American involvement in World War I.

Republicans of today don't have the prunes to do what is necessary. I'm ashamed of them.

32 posted on 06/18/2005 7:31:35 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: layman

(4)" He describes a detainee who had apparently pulled his hair out. Doesn't this say more about the fanaticism of the detainee than the behavior of the interrogators?"

It also says he was chained hand to foot. Small question, but how do you pull your hair out if you are chained hand to foot?


33 posted on 06/18/2005 7:37:32 AM PDT by saleman
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

We freepers should take up a collection and send his office a couple brand new shovels. The one his currently diging his hole with is gonna wear out soon.


34 posted on 06/18/2005 7:42:23 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: layman
"(3) The agent observed a detainee in a room without food or water."

No food? No water? Certainly the prison guards were just trying to instill the detainee with a sense of euphoria....

35 posted on 06/18/2005 7:49:32 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: socialismisinsidious
he regrets the YOU misunderstood him....it is all your fault, not his.

Exactly. He regrets that we are too dense to understand his subtle thought patterns. Kind of like John Kerry and his "nuance," isn't it? Just pathetic. But of course, the Dems always close ranks and protect their own. Trent Lott, on the other hand, got hammered. No matter how much he apologized, it was never enough. Yet the Democrats can "apologize" by saying, "I regret that most Americans are too stupid to understand my exalted intellect," and they figure that takes care of everything!

36 posted on 06/18/2005 7:52:30 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Joe 6-pack
No food? No water? Certainly the prison guards were just trying to instill the detainee with a sense of euphoria....

Good one.

37 posted on 06/18/2005 8:00:54 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Balding_Eagle

I think she did break it. One of her show buddies (Lee?) was up late with the baby and caught it on C-Span, so they discussed it on the show the next morning. Good catch, Laura.


38 posted on 06/18/2005 8:15:47 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: falcon1966

_________________________________
Dick Durbin
Phone - Washington: (202)224-2152
Phone - Chicago: (312)353-4952
Phone - Springfield (217)492-4062 Suzanne Palmera
_________________________________
E-mail: dick@durbin.senate.gov
_________________________________


39 posted on 06/18/2005 8:16:30 AM PDT by falcon1966
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To: Balding_Eagle
Good morning.
"His regrets stem from everyone UNDERSTANDING him..."

dick Durbin's apology is very much like Hanoi Jane's.

Michael Frazier
40 posted on 06/18/2005 8:37:28 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
White house should be calling on the Dems to remove Durbin from his leadership position.
41 posted on 06/18/2005 8:46:25 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: Scarchin
For now - let's keep him around and hope he says more stupid things!

The problem with him saying those things is not that it it politically advantageous to his side or to ours. The problem is that it undermines our our war effort. It's the old Vietnam syndrome...the enemy keeps fighting when they think we are going to fold.

42 posted on 06/18/2005 8:47:33 AM PDT by ShowMeMom (America: The home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Today, in a speech to a bunch of fruits, Durbin compared apples to oranges ....


43 posted on 06/18/2005 8:51:08 AM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!")
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