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Trespass Law Helps Nab Illegal Immigrants
AP-Yahoo News ^ | June 17, 2005 | KATHY McCORMACK

Posted on 06/18/2005 10:11:12 AM PDT by Jeff Head

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) -- Two police chiefs, frustrated by what they claim is the government's failure to pursue illegal immigrants, are taking a novel approach to homeland security: using a trespassing law to arrest undocumented immigrants.

W. Garrett Chamberlain pioneered the tactic in New Ipswich and Hudson chief Richard Gendron enthusiastically joined in.

Both say they are helping to prevent another Sept. 11.

"What do you do?" Gendron said recently. "As a law enforcement officer, I have a difficult time with someone who's not supposed to be in this country. If we're really, truly concerned about homeland security, this is one of the areas we have to give attention to."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; immigrationissues; lawsoftheland; nationalborders; nationalsecurity; soveriegnty
Based on comments regarding tresspass laws and illegal immigration that were so well pointed out by Freeper JCEccles on the "Nevada lawmakers move to protect immigrants" thread, I felt this report was appropriate.

Law makers in Nevada need to start breathing the same air as these Polic Chiefs in New Hampshire, and the Judge in South Texas IMHO.

1 posted on 06/18/2005 10:11:12 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: JCEccles; B4Ranch

FYI.


2 posted on 06/18/2005 10:11:51 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Squantos; Eaker; Joe Brower; Lurker; Noumenon; joanie-f; Dukie; Travis McGee; JohnHuang2

More and more local officials are getting it and reacting to address the illegal alien issue.


3 posted on 06/18/2005 10:13:45 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Either Uncle Sugar handles it at the border or I'll handle it at the porch.....

I'll check back in when the FROBL Swamp Disruption Culture floats to the surface to laugh at their disinformational sh*t'n shineola traveling snake oil show.......:o)

Stay safe Jeff !


4 posted on 06/18/2005 10:25:49 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Jeff Head

Unfortunately not the Law Enforcement agencies in CT. Today on the front page of the Connecticut post is an article stating the position of the Connecticut State Police.

Basically, they're saying.... "Not our problem"..
More "Selective law enforcement" from our Boys in Blue.


5 posted on 06/18/2005 10:27:31 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Jeff Head

This just may get the feds attention and they will finally act to do something about the illegal problem......OR they could try and screw these guys somehow. Could go either way


6 posted on 06/18/2005 10:29:06 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: Squantos
Either Uncle Sugar handles it at the border or I'll handle it at the porch.....

That's my native Texas talking through and through!

7 posted on 06/18/2005 10:38:47 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: commonasdirt; taxed2death; Squantos; Eaker; Joe Brower; Lurker; Noumenon; joanie-f; Dukie; ...

WEB SITE: Mexico immigration laws

Respect for the law is important.

Entering Mexico without documents is sanctioned by law.



Consejo Consultivo
Migratorio
La Paz




The ley General de Publacion and its By-Laws that regulate your admission stay and departure from Mexico. The Constitucion Politica de las Estados Unidas Mexicanos.

Article 1

In the United States of Mexico every individual will enjoy the guarantees granted in this Constitution and these cannot be restricted or suspended, except in those
cases and under the conditions established below.


When you enter the country as a "tourist", you are allowed to remain for a maximum of 180 days for the purposes of recreation, health, artistic or sports activities.

You may not work in Mexico.

If you arrive by air: You must have your immigration form and present it to the immigration authorities upon arrival at the airport of your destination within Mexico.


If you arrive by road: You must request your immigration form after having paid the tourist fees at a local bank. Your vehicle must leave the country when your tourist card expires. You cannot sell your car within Mexico nor use it for any other unauthorized purpose.

If you arrive by sea: You must obtain your immigration permit after having paid the fees at the port of entrance. Once your authorized 180 days are up, you must leave the country.


If you wish to re-enter the country: You can do so with a new immigration form granted by the immigration authorities at the place of entry after having paid the corresponding fee.


You may extend your stay in Mexico as a: Person of independent means: Defined as one who lives off of income generated outside of Mexico.

Financially dependent person: Defined as one who is economically dependent on a spouse or blood relative.

In a position of trust: Defined as a person who assumes a sole managerial role or some other position of absolute trust in established Mexican companies or institutions.


Student: Defined as a person who begins, finishes or perfects his studies in Mexico. Once the student terminates his/her studies, he/she must leave the country.


Religious minister or associate: Defined as an active minister of any religion or a person who performs social or philanthropic acts. In this case, you must register with the "Secretaria de Gobernación".


Political exile: Defined as a person who enters the country to protect his/her liberty or life, from political persecution in his/her country of origin. You must have permission from the "Secretaria de Gobernación" and you may not leave the country without permission from the Secretaria if your request is granted.


Business visitor or investor: Defined as a person who enters the country for the purpose of seeking alternate investment prospects or for carrying these out. In this case, the foreigner must comply with the Foreign Investment Law requirements.


Transmigrant: Defined as person who is in transit to another country and passes through Mexican territory. A Transmigrant has the right to remain in the country for a maximum of 30 days.


To obtain an extension of the aforementioned categories you must go to the immigration department, (Instituto National de Migración) taking with you your immigration form and valid passport, where upon fulfilling all additional requirements and having paid the corresponding fees, the extension of your mmigration document can be authorized.


You may extend your stay on four occasions, each for maximum of 365 days. With the authorization to remain in Mexico temporarily, you may enter or leave the country without any restrictions, except in the case of a tourist.


With regard to all the above categories, if you wish to acquire some property, you may do so after fulfilling the necessary legal requirements.

You must never have two immigration documents simultaneously.


All foreigners entering the country, except in a case of a tourist, must request their name be entered in the National Foreigner’s Registry.


Once you have obtained a permanent address in Mexico, you have 30 days in which to request that your address, or change of, be noted in your immigration document.


During your stay in Mexico, if your civil status changes, you must notify the immigration authorities within a maximum of 30 days from the event.


In the case of marriage to a Mexican national, or adoptions, you will be required to obtain the Immigration department’s authorization.


To extend your activities, or change employer, you require the Immigration Department’s authorization and payment of the corresponding fee.


In the case of loss or theft of your immigration document, you must file a report before the State Attorney General, (Procuraduría General de Justicia del Estado).


To obtain a replacement of your immigration document, you must present a photocopy of the above report.


If you wish to leave the country and your immigration document is being processed, notify the department and you may obtain an exit and re-entry permit valid for a maximum of 45 days.


If you wish to leave the country, you must hand in your immigration document to the immigration department before you leave.


8 posted on 06/18/2005 10:38:53 AM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: taxed2death

Vote 'em out of office. As this type of action (in NH and Texas) spreads, more and more Americans are going to demand similar action in their localities.


9 posted on 06/18/2005 10:39:47 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: commonasdirt
Well, the awareness and the willingn ess to act within the law to address the issue is growing. (Ie. this in NH, thee Judge down in Texas, the Minutemen, etc.).

Thos acting against the rising sentiment of citizens and local authorities to address this issue will ultimately be acting in their own worst interest IMHO>

10 posted on 06/18/2005 10:42:21 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Liz; Jeff Head

Excellant.........a keeper !


11 posted on 06/18/2005 10:44:54 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: joanie-f; Dukie; Squantos; JohnHuang2; k.trujillo; Travis McGee; jim macomber; Critter; Lurker; ...

FYI...willingness on the part of more and more citizens and local authorities to act within the law to address this issue is growing.


12 posted on 06/18/2005 10:51:02 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
If the feds won't do their job, the locals will have to.


13 posted on 06/18/2005 11:02:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Jeff Head
Thanks for the ping. I believe Yahoo grabbed this article (or at least the info therein) from a few weeks back (about the time of the Minuteman deployment). I saw something posted here on FR, IIRC, about trespassing charges being brought by local LE who were frustrated by the lack of cooperation from the Feds.

Hopefully, they will find DAs who will not decline purview or waive jurisdiction...one would think that an elected DA would find these prosecutions very beneficial in an area where illegals were a problem nad the Feds have done little. Word spreads very rapidly in the illegal community and all I can say is woe be the areas that go easy on illegals if others decide to crack down....

....It's like the two hikers who are charged by angry grizzly. They both immediately drop their packs, but one sheds his boots and quickly tries to change into a pair of athletic shoes. His partner says, "Don't be crazy, you'll never outrun that bear." As he pulls on his second Nike and ties he knot, he replies, "I know. I only have to outrun you." The municipalities who crack down on and make life difficult for illegals will do especially well if there are *easier* communities just down the road...

14 posted on 06/18/2005 11:05:42 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Travis McGee
Amen bro. Talk is cheap.

Check out THIS THREAD for some good dialog.

15 posted on 06/18/2005 11:05:58 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Good news indeed.
the picture of the fence at the border in the post below is unbelievable


16 posted on 06/18/2005 11:08:02 AM PDT by Countyline
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To: Joe 6-pack
I beleive the first report was a seperate incident when Garrett Chamberlain started it. Now this Hudson has joined in.

Good on 'em both and on the Judge down in South Texas!

17 posted on 06/18/2005 11:10:01 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Countyline

Yep...Travis paints a very accurate and sobering picture there...and it is true of hunderds and hundred...even thosuands of miles on our border.


18 posted on 06/18/2005 11:11:05 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
"What do you do?" Gendron said recently. "As a law enforcement officer, I have a difficult time with someone who's not supposed to be in this country. If we're really, truly concerned about homeland security, this is one of the areas we have to give attention to."

Sure seems to me we would.

19 posted on 06/18/2005 11:12:08 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya

Basic, straight forward common sense. Good on this these folks.


20 posted on 06/18/2005 11:14:07 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Wish the US Congress wake up and smell the manure they've been shoveling and give the INS more resources to do their job.


21 posted on 06/18/2005 11:17:48 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: lilylangtree
Amen...but the problem is, that some of those shoveling their own manure actually think it smells sweet and see nothing wrong with it. As Andrew Jackson said, IMHO its time to "route those vipers out" of the capitol and vote in those with a finer sense of smell
22 posted on 06/18/2005 11:19:39 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
Actually I think its pretty smart of the Bush Admin. to be AWOL in this issue..
Then the RNC has an excuse when they take a "dive" in the 2008 elections..

It IS Hillarys "turn"...
You DO know Jeff; that a RINO will be selected to run don't you.?.
Not everyone was asleep when Bush "dissed" Toomey and came out for Spectre..
I have it right here in my notepad.. Bush is a moderate democrat.. like any other RINO.. and not a republican at all..

What the hell does "I'm a Unite'er not a Divide'er" mean anyways.. Neville Chamberlain even, would not have "outed" himself with such a lame cliche'.. And the entire RNC remains clueless.. unless they are complicit.

23 posted on 06/18/2005 11:28:03 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Jeff Head
"I beleive the first report was a seperate incident..."

Thanks for the clarification, and while I appreciate you taking the time to clear up the clouds of my confusion, it's my deepest hope that we'll soon be getting a whole lot more of these incidents to confuse with one another!

24 posted on 06/18/2005 11:29:49 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: hosepipe

We shall see. More and more people are awakening to the issue and its implications and it will make a difference.


25 posted on 06/18/2005 11:38:25 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That is my hope as well.


26 posted on 06/18/2005 11:38:41 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

That's a welcome 180 from the RAT-infested cities that refuse to cooperate at all with INS. If only they could send them back to their home countries, specifically to the furthest point from the US,....


27 posted on 06/18/2005 12:01:07 PM PDT by steveegg (Only to a MARXIST is a VOTE considered a POWER GRAB. (thanks Seaplaner))
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To: steveegg

The Judge down in South Texas is doing yoeman's work as well. I believe more and more citizens and local authorities are waking up and I believe it is going to spread.


28 posted on 06/18/2005 12:07:02 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

I'm not one hundred percent positive... but I think the position of the Commander of the Connecticut State Police is an appointed position.


29 posted on 06/18/2005 12:44:58 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Liz

Does Mexico enforce all those laws and deport violators to the US?


30 posted on 06/18/2005 2:27:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Jeff Head
Surely some FReepers will remember the days before the Fair Housing Act, and how property owners were free to sell or rent to whomever they wished. This approach effectively delivered the message "Your money is no good here". I'm pointing this out for good cause.

It seems to me there is one way individuals and communities can stem the tide of ILLEGAL immigration. In reading the Fair Housing Act, I see no provision outlawing housing discrimination based on legal status.

Here's the discrimination provisions from the law:

(a) To refuse to sell or rent after the making of a bona fide offer, or to refuse to negotiate for the sale or rental of, or otherwise make unavailable or deny, a dwelling to any person because of race, color, religion, sex, familial status, or national origin.

(b) To discriminate against any person in the terms, conditions, or privileges of sale or rental of a dwelling, or in the provision of services or facilities in connection therewith, because of race, color, religion, sex, familial status, or national origin.

(c) To make, print, or publish, or cause to be made, printed, or published any notice, statement, or advertisement, with respect to the sale or rental of a dwelling that indicates any preference, limitation, or discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin, or an intention to make any such preference, limitation, or discrimination.

(d) To represent to any person because of race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin that any dwelling is not available for inspection, sale, or rental when such dwelling is in fact so available.

(e) For profit, to induce or attempt to induce any person to sell or rent any dwelling by representations regarding the entry or prospective entry into the neighborhood of a person or persons of a particular race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin.

Source link: US Department of Justice
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/housing/title8.htm

Unless I'm very wrong, I see no provision that can force anyone to rent housing to anyone not here legally. Very few of these illegal immigrants can survive here without housing, and they cannot purchase housing. Purchasing housing requires they be legal residents.
31 posted on 06/18/2005 3:21:00 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: B4Ranch

We should find out---let's gang up and cross their borders in droves and demand benefits----and see what they do about it.

I can hear Vincente now, "Shoot to kill them Americano illegals."


32 posted on 06/18/2005 4:17:41 PM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: Jeff Head
Well well, trespassing no less. Where there's a will...

I'm sure there are some folks(maybe here on FR) that could put together a mailing list of LE, particularly county sheriffs, to help spread the word. As the red areas/states begin to tighten the screws, the blue areas/states should get their just rewards, eh?

FGS

33 posted on 06/18/2005 7:31:45 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Jeff Head
Enforcement starts at the top and our president has another agenda. I think someone (read Karl Rove) has told the president that illegal immigration is a win-win situation as far as growth of the Republican Party is concerned- First, he doesn't alienate new prospective citizens (illegals) who might vote for Republicans (I think this is delusional) and second, he maintains friendships with the large campaign donors who hire illegals in their businesses.

The rest of us indirectly pay $5 for a head of lettuce through payroll taxes to support health costs, education costs, law enforcement costs, and infrastructure costs associated with illegal immigration plus the welfare we're already paying the legal residents who won't work for $5/hour.
34 posted on 06/19/2005 9:20:46 AM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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