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Posted on 06/20/2005 11:19:32 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
Advocacy groups: Lesbian's death was a hate crime
Memorial, prevention: A candlelight vigil honors her; others say carrying guns is the answer
By Stephen Hunt The Salt Lake Tribune
Gay and lesbian organizations are calling the recent stabbing death of a lesbian woman a hate crime.
The groups held a candlelight vigil Friday evening at Jordan Park for the slain woman, Norma Hernandez Espinoza, who was killed June 10 outside a West Valley City apartment. About 70 people attended.
"We must combat the voices of those who hate," said Gena Edvalson, the gender justice coordinator at Utah Progressive Network, in a news release, "and we must stand together as friends and neighbors to show that we, as a community of love and understanding, are a greater force than hate and violence."
The alleged killer, Trey Holloway Brown, has been charged with first-degree felony murder.
Espinoza - who was having a romantic relationship with Brown's wife - had joined in a heated argument Brown and his wife were having about their three children when Brown grabbed a kitchen knife and chased the victim into the parking lot.
Outside, Brown stabbed Espinoza three times, then jumped up and down on her chest and kicked her in the head, according to witnesses.
Court documents describing the charges make no mention of the victim's sexual orientation.
"We charged [Brown] with murder, which was the highest crime that he allegedly committed, and we found no evidence a hate crime under Utah law was involved," said Deputy Salt Lake County District Attorney Robert Stott.
Said Edvalson: "We must say no to violence against women and violence against lesbians."
David Nelson, founder and owner of Stonewall Shooting Sports of Utah, issued a news release calling for women to arm themselves.
SSSU is a group of sexual-minority firearms advocates and owners who recommend gay and lesbians carry guns for protection. The so-called "Pink Pistols" idea was coined by writer Jonathan Rauch in 2000.
"Women with firearms are up to 2.5 times less likely to be injured," Nelson said. "Every year, people in the United States use a firearm to defend themselves against criminals more than 2.5 million times - several times more often than criminals use firearms to commit crime.
"Clearly, the legal, responsible and safe use of firearms saves lives and probably would have saved the life of Norma Hernandez Espinoza."
Another Republican voting bloc in development??
Hate crime? I don't think so.
Cold-blooded murder of anyone is unacceptable, but when you have an affair with somebody's wife, you run certain risks, no matter who you are.
Very true.
Here we go with the "hate crime" garbage. It was a crime regardless of what a person calls it. The perp(s) needs to be caught and prosecuted regardless.
"Stonewall Shooting Sports of Utah"
Ironic in the extreme.
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Does the corollary "Yes to violence against men and violence against heterosexuals." then apply?
So feminists don't think that lesbians are women?
"Espinoza - who was having a romantic relationship with Brown's wife - had joined in a heated argument Brown and his wife were having about their three children when Brown grabbed a kitchen knife and chased the victim into the parking lot."
And if this would have been a man, there would be no mention of a "hate" crime at all. And just what was the "other woman" doing joining an argument that did not involve her? Now, again, if the lesbo was a man, no uprising of the freak crowd.
>>Said Edvalson: "We must say no to violence against women and violence against lesbians."<<
But I guess violence against straight men is ok?
How weird would it be if homosexuals led the way to reclaiming our 2nd amendment rights?
"We must combat the voices of those who hate,"
Just what exactly does that mean?
Good point. Thank you.
Good catch. Confound them with, "I hate hate!"
Words fail me, reading that job title......
I will support outlawing "hate crime" when someone can show me a "love crime".
It means that you're not allowed to talk about the mental disease called homosexuality, and especially not about the spiritual and physical destruction it leaves in its wake.
This hate thing is all about publicity and nothing more. It revs people up...unfortunately...the wrong people.
Right you are. Murder is always wrong.
Someone please describe a murder that doesn't involve an element of hate and rage.
I'd classify this as a crime of passion.
Excellent news that some traditionally liberal demographics are beginning to support the second amendment!
"I will support outlawing "hate crime" when someone can show me a "love crime"."
I suppose that would be if it were reversed and Espinoza killed her lovers husband - then SHE would have gotten off.
Well, if she was having an affair with his wife, he probably DID hate her. :)
SSSU is a group of sexual-minority firearms advocates and owners who recommend gay and lesbians carry guns for protection<<<
LOL! I think they are being a bit Dramatic myself. I just hate that!
This poor guy is gonna be hanged.
It's ok to kill somebody, just as long as they are the same race and gender as you.
"Confound them with, "I hate hate!"
The logical interpretation of which can only be self-hatred.
OMG, another new term from the leftists. Gimme a break.
This has become such an established part of their M.O. that they've become a parody of themselves. What a joke.
There is no need for hate crime crap. 1st degree murder carries the maximum penalty a state can impose, so what is the point? Other than it gives prosecutors scare-tactic power.
"LOL! I think they are being a bit Dramatic myself. I just hate that!"
Are you expressing a hatred of armed drama queens?
so if he is convicted of first degree murder and sentence to death, is the hate crime law going to make him MORE executed?
This is absurd, this is just the homosexual women who are just out to kill a husband who was upset his wife was having an affair with "one of thiers".
IOW they want more rights than others.
I am certain the article missed much of the details, but the fact the homosexual women are upset seems to work in the husband's favor.
Hate crime, shmate crime. I don't think anyone kills anyone else because they love them. Every killing is a hate crime.
Hmmm, seems as if there's a green light on violence against heterosexual men!
I disagree...this was not a cold-blooded murder.
This homocide defines "heat of the moment."
2nd degree murder, at most, maybe even manslaughter.
25 to life for this guy.
Let's also say no to having affairs with someone's wife.
See, the Brits are right. Gotta outlaw those long, sharp and pointy things before someone gets an eye poked out.
Good point. This sounds more like a crime of passion than premeditated murder. Judging from how carried away the guy got, he could even argue temporary insanity if he's got a good enough lawyer.
I was focusing on the bogus hate-crime label.
OMG, another new term from the leftists. Gimme a break.
I admit I overlooked the "sexual-minority" term. Why do liberals have to give every little thought, every little disagreement, every little "I want", some stupid name to define it by?
Reminds me of some Blacks getting upset that Mexicans were usurping "their" minority status.
My butt's a minority, should I name it?
In days of old, killing a man who was having an affair with your wife was a defense. Seems this would be no different.
I think the affair MUST come into evidence as part of the crime of passion.
Manslaughter perhaps, not murder one.
"You see, I thought the lesbian crowd saw guns as penis extensions or something"
Prosthetic penii are only contemptible in the hypergynocentric view if said prosthetic penii actually look phallic. Now, if they look like a bowling pin with rabbit ears on top, and are purple with pink metal flakes, that is perfectly OK. It's all in the symbolism.
no kidding, but if it were another guy, Brown would've done the same thing! He didn't do it BECAUSE she was lesbian..he did it because his wife was having an affair w/ her...CRIPES hate crime...stupidity. Period.
"My butt's a minority, should I name it?"
Dimples?
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