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Kerry Grants Three Reporters Broad Access to Navy Records (AP, Boston Globe, LA Times)
The New York Sun ^ | 6/21/05 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 06/21/2005 7:23:29 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts recently granted three reporters broad access to his Navy service records, according to documents obtained by the New York Sun.

The privacy waivers signed by Mr. Kerry authorized the release of 'a single, one time copy of the complete military service record and medical records of John F. Kerry' to Glen Johnson of the Associated Press, Michael Kranish of the Boston Globe, and Stephen Braun of the Los Angeles Times.

The waivers, executed on a National Archives form known as a Standard From 180, also permitted an 'undeleted report' of any discharges of any discharges ever granted to Mr. Kerry. The undeleted reports would include the 'character' of any discharge, the form indicates.

The Navy provided copies of the privacy waivers to the New York Sun in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.

A spokesman for Mr. Kerry rebuffed the Sun's request for access to the service and medical files released to the other three news organizations.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: americantraitor; form180; hanoijohn; kerry; militaryrecord; pondscum; sf180; teresaspoodle; traitor; treason
Will the three chosen ones destroy the original copies like their UK counterparts?
1 posted on 06/21/2005 7:23:30 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

I am sure these 3 reporters were very well "screened".


2 posted on 06/21/2005 7:30:21 AM PDT by hubbubhubbub
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To: gopwinsin04

So is that all the information? Why is he hiding it? Is this normal?


3 posted on 06/21/2005 7:38:43 AM PDT by Huck (Don't follow leaders)
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To: hubbubhubbub

"I am sure these 3 reporters were very well "screened"."
Well screened? kranish would do a lewinsky on frenchie if he wasn't shall we say, incapacitated by his bout with prostate cancer.



4 posted on 06/21/2005 7:39:23 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Dealing with liberals? Remember: when you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: Huck

It is like the Clinton leaks during his own foibles. Leak a little info out at a time rather than letting the public get hit with a tidal wave of details.

If they set the bar a little lower each time, you won't realize how low you have to stoop to accept this man as "honorable".


5 posted on 06/21/2005 7:50:20 AM PDT by weegee (Re: immigration "Those Syrians are coming to Iraq to do the bombings that Iraqis won't do.")
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To: hubbubhubbub

Well the AP, Boston Globe, and LA Times were all caught manufacturing news. That right there shows that they can handle the job of spinning Kerry into being a "good" man.

AP was the other HALF of the National Guard memo messenger (and their articles for a week made no reference to the scandal supposing their authenticity).

The Boston Globe ran internet sex photos as "evidence" of rape and torture of Iraqi prisoners (the images had even been discredited prior to publication).

The LA Times ran a photo composite on the front page of a soldier "halting" a refugee with a small child.


6 posted on 06/21/2005 7:53:16 AM PDT by weegee (Re: immigration "Those Syrians are coming to Iraq to do the bombings that Iraqis won't do.")
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To: Huck

I don't think the Boston Globe, LA Times or AP has released a story on these reports yet.


7 posted on 06/21/2005 7:55:07 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
Copies of the three Kerry SF-180s
8 posted on 06/21/2005 7:55:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: gopwinsin04

Just makes it seems sketchy, doesn't it?


9 posted on 06/21/2005 7:56:16 AM PDT by Huck (Don't follow leaders)
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To: Huck

Why hasn't the media just asked Senator Kerry why he didn't bother to release his military records BEFORE election day?

He kept saying "I will". This proves he lied about his intentions to do so. It was not an "oversight". Now that he "has" released them (at least in part) he has done so with limited access.


10 posted on 06/21/2005 7:59:06 AM PDT by weegee (Re: immigration "Those Syrians are coming to Iraq to do the bombings that Iraqis won't do.")
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To: kabar


11 posted on 06/21/2005 8:07:27 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
Maybe this will just prove the records have been scrubbed properly.
12 posted on 06/21/2005 8:14:49 AM PDT by OldSgt. (USMC, Nam Vet, HMM-165)
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To: gopwinsin04

The stories about Kerry's lackluster grades at Yale (based on reporting from Kranish in the Boston Globe) resulted from the information released due to this form SF-180. I believe that the claim in that article was that there was nothing else new in the released records.


13 posted on 06/21/2005 8:16:29 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Huck

Is this normal"


NO! Not according to John O'Neill. He said that when a person signs a Form 180 - ANYONE can obtain access to those records. Since the Sun has been denied access .. it tells me that John is selectively releasing just enough - HE THINKS - to get by with saying he signed a Form 180.

I think O'Neill has mentioned that it's possible to release only portions of your records. If so .. this would appear to be what Kerry has done .. thereby restricting who gets the information to only media outlets who will be kind to Kerry.

I don't know Navy rules. I'm just going by what O'Neill said.


14 posted on 06/21/2005 8:30:39 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: gopwinsin04
Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts recently granted three reporters broad access to his Navy service records…to Glen Johnson of the Associated Press, Michael Kranish of the Boston Globe, and Stephen Braun of the Los Angeles Times.


15 posted on 06/21/2005 8:35:14 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: gopwinsin04
Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts recently granted three reporters broad access to his Navy service records, according to documents obtained by the New York Sun

Broad access???

I'll bet there are even strings with that

16 posted on 06/21/2005 8:37:34 AM PDT by Mo1 (Democrats Sold Out America ... just to regain power)
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To: gopwinsin04
Image hosted by Photobucket.com the Navy said before the election that there were over 100 pages of keri's record he wouldn't release, so... unless there are 100 pages more than the LAST RELEASE he's STILL LYING!!!
17 posted on 06/21/2005 8:43:38 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: gopwinsin04
There NAVY records are a smoke screen, we don't want that the NAVY has, we want want is in the natianal archive.

From Michele Malkin:

The Navy said they had over 100 pages they could not release without Kerry's authorization. Did the Globe get that many and are they reporting on all of them? The biggest question of all remains unanswered. What type of discharge did Kerry originally receive? Remember, Kerry had his discharge re-issued after Carter granted a pardon to Vietnam vets.

Then there is this exchange between Kerry and Tim Russert on Feb 7th.

Last week the 2008 presidential hopeful suggested he wanted to review his full Navy file to make sure of "what is in the record and what isn't in the record" before signing Form 180.

"I'm going to sit down with them and make sure that they are clear and I am clear as to what is in the record and what isn't in the record and we'll put it out," he told "Meet the Press" host Tim Russert.

Kerry did not explain his reference to "what isn't in the record," though questions arose late in the campaign about why he received his honorable discharge six years after leaving the service...

19 posted on 06/21/2005 12:51:46 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

That is an important distinction, thanks for adding that.


20 posted on 06/21/2005 1:23:36 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: CyberAnt; TexasCajun

If you look at the form, he only releases his active duty records. He didn't fill in the section for reserve service. The monkey business about the discharge would have been during his reserve service.


21 posted on 06/21/2005 1:27:43 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: colorado tanker

Okay .. I knew it wasn't a full release. Thanks.


22 posted on 06/21/2005 2:02:53 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Baynative

Pure, unadulterated, bulls#it!


23 posted on 06/21/2005 2:06:42 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: CyberAnt

I thought it was a pretty slick move, almost as good as something Slick Willy would come up with.


24 posted on 06/21/2005 2:21:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: gopwinsin04

I know this will be a stupid question, but:

Why isn't the press (and why didnt they during the election) filin Freedom of Information Act requests for Kerry's Navy files, like they did repeatedly for Bush's TANG records?


25 posted on 06/21/2005 2:27:55 PM PDT by Tatze (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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To: gopwinsin04

At the risk of insulting God's involvement in making all of us . . . with apologies and a request for a special dispensation . . .

what creature in this time/space dimension

shaped the pile of frozen horse biscuits into the ugly excuse for a sentient creature known as SKERRY?

What a pile of stinky . . . BS.


26 posted on 06/21/2005 2:56:33 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: colorado tanker

Well .. Kerry could have either forced the three to pay to get the documents .. or he paid them after they agreed to give him a favorable story and leave out anything bad.


27 posted on 06/21/2005 7:43:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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