Skip to comments.Growing my own tobacco -I've had it with these prices! (A journal)
Posted on 06/21/2005 8:25:15 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
Since I have to get to bed, I'm just going to paste what I placed into the coffinnails.com forum. There's relevant questions inclused that I'll place on this thread if they get answered.
Day one -finally got my seeds!
Them things are SMALL! Sheesh! I had to fuzzy up the end of a Q-Tip to place them into the trays. Before I screw things up, there's a few questions I must ask. The 200 seeds I got are Dark Virginia. I'm doing 16 at a time.
Will the unused seeds keep for a while? I'd like to grow 'em in staggered stages. Will regular tap water work, or will I have to use distilled or rainwater? I have to used that kind for my Venus's Flytraps. Flourescent lighting. Will it work well for staggered stage growing year-round? Humidity? Someone told me that nicotine is a natural insect repellant. Is this true? Has anyone here saved the $$$ they expected to save? That's why I'm doing this. What's the best soil to use?
Luckily, there's a big place near my home called Paulino's Gardens, where I can find almost all the accessories I need for this venture of mine. I'll update on this thread as I go along.
OH! First entry: Got seeds three days ago and placed them on top of potting soil in 16-cube icetray container with holes in the bottom. Placed trays in my carnivorous plant terrarium that uses three 15-watt flourescent bulbs on a 18-hour timer. Sprayed and soaked with rainwater. Crossing my fingers.
Last question for the day: How long should it be before something actually grows?
I didn't want to use pesticides so I picked them off ever day. I read some where that turkeys can pick them off, so I got some turkeys this year as pest removers and thanksgiving will be good this year as well.
Here is a good article on the whole process.
I didn't ping you about growing tobacco :)
The freeper I pinged you to was asking about Alaska :)
I found rhubarb! :)
Sounds like the making of a new Daily Thread :)
Guinea Fowl are great pest removers too.
Dear Lord, you are absolutely dense, aren't you????????
Did you even bother to read what I wrote??????? I am a FULL TIME STAY AT HOME MOM.......that earns me NOTHING monetarily. Are you suggesting that I should be out in the workforce earning money and paying someone else to take care of my child instead of being home saving money and teaching my daughter valuable skills?
You are an absolute lunatic if you think that I should be doing something else to earn money. But you're a money man and have absolutely no understanding of the intangibles that are worth far more to some people than the almighty dollar.
Rent out my barn? You need to get a clue. Not write checks? I write plenty - I know exactly what my costs are for everything I do. I may not have the letters "CPA" after my name, but my accountant asked me why I bothered having her do my taxes this year because I already had everything organized properly - to me it was worth paying her to do the 2 states and fed and file them for me. Just like like it is worth more to me to have my child home with me and work in my garden than it is to have a paying job and have her in daycare.
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I actually just responded to someone on this thread who claims my garden activities could be used for another occupation paying more money.
I will reuse the freezer bags if they didn't contain raw meat, poultry or fish...or didn't get stained with tomato products.
I was just acknowledging the FRiend that sent them to me!!!!!
Good for you...........just please don't become one of the anti-smoker crowd.......PLEASE
WOW - you are a resourceful gentleman, aren't you???!!!!!!!!
Ping for a great comment!
Nobody I know cares what Big Stupid Government "thinks" about plant use. As if people who could only get government jobs could actually think . . . . . .
See my tagline.
Oh, don't worry. I never could understand why ex-smokers are bigger anti-smoking Nazis than people who have never smoked.
Hmmm, running the math here. My next cigarette will be my first, so if I start smoking - will I actually start making money?
Good for you!!!!!!!
I found a lot of weeds, Mickey D's for my daughter and a game of trivia with friends with a beer for me :) The Garden center has to wait until Friday for me. And after paying a bunch of bills in between all of that - I'm really not in the mood for more weeds........but they are out there....*SIGH*
You lost me.
If you don't spend it, then it's still your money. Right?
Sounds like the making of a new Daily Thread :)
Thank you my FRiend.
I have always been supportive of folks I know who have chosen to stop smoking...........several of them have gone the control freak route expecting everyone else to do the same - to a one I have told them I regret the concessions I made for them during their time of "duress".........the funny thing I have found is with the folks I know who have stopped smoking - it's the ones that always complained in the beginning are the ones that become the antis. Folks that just said "no more" never go the nanny route.
Think about it.
I used to smoke 20 packs of cigarettes a day...
But, since the doctors removed one of my lungs...
I've cut my smoking in half...
I think he is trying to be funny............
I have - it still makes no sense.
I hope you're right.
You agree with my original statement then. Its the intangibles not the dollar savings.
Please take a remidial class in reading comprehension along with the one in econ101
So, you disagree with yourself?
Man! I've been looking into this the past week or so myself. I'm going to smoke. Can't help it. I've been looking into rolling machines and filters but I have no idea from there. Can you recommend a decent machine I could possibly pick up down at the tobacco shop? I'm really amazed by all this. I've heard I can get the cost-per-cigarette down from 20 cents to 5 cents. Amazing I came upon this thread. Can't believe it!
Ya left out a step or two there Mountain man. First, it's too late in the year to plant seed. Actually too late to plant plants. Must begin in Feb. with a steamed plant bed for seeds. Keep covered with cloth until danger of frost is past. Transplant to field, replant those that die. As they grow break off the "suckers" that sprout between the leaves. Pick off the Tobacco Worms and squish them between thumb and fingers(at least 3 worms per plant). When the dark tobacco is about 4-5 feet tall, cut at base, string onto tobacco stake and take to the barn and hang the stakes between the rafters. After frost start several sawdust fires (hickory is best) and create lots of smoke which "cures" the leaves. In January, fire up the pot-bellied stove in the barn. Take down the stakes and remove the stalks of tobacco. Strip the leaves from the stalk and grade them according to grade. Tie into "hands" and arrange on a pallet. Now the tobacco is ready for sale or use. What a fun crop to grow. Of course you could plant Burley which is easier because you don't have to "fire" it. But Dark Virginia has to be smoke cured.
No - just your interpretation of my comments.
I can't help that you choose to just pick and choose the parts of my comments you wish to ignore.
I will say it one more time - growing my own crops SAVE me money. Adding another crop to what I am already growing is not going to cost me a danged thing.
And the fact you had the nerve to suggest I could earn more money than I save by getting a job instead of raising my child was a horrendous insult not only to me, but to all stay-at-home-moms and all conservatives.
Many of us don't live by the almighty dollar as you apparently do.
easy to cure, just hang leaves in a controlled enviorment not too hot, dry or wet. They will dry and cure naturally, when the leaves turn brown, chop, dice, slice and roll your own!
The best machine is the Supermatic II. some tobacco shops do carry them - but SheLion did provide the link to purchase it online earlier in the thread.
Not the way you're describing it!!!! LOL!
Honey believe me, I've been there, done that.
Thanks. Yes, I'm sorry. I did not have time to look through the whole thread, even though I'm very interested in this. I apologize. I usually DO comb through threads before I post. But thank you very much for answering. I knew somebody would and that I would be able to look in at the main site for answers.
Believe me - I believe you!!!!!!!!
I have to seriously reconsider the fact I was going to get some seed in next week after what you have said here.
What is "butt tea"?
I'm sorry - I would normally have gone back and found the link and posted it - but I'm tired (therefore lazy) tonight.
If I remember correctly it's within the first 30-40 posts of this thread - and it wouldn't surprise me if She Lion has a link on her home page.
Simply steeping some tobacco in water for a while.
PS: We're in Floriduh. ;-)
Until you start growing some Pinar del Rio gold, with some Cameroon for the wrapper, I aint buying.
Oh, lovely :)
I'm aware that it is a labor intensive crop and needs to be started/planted as early as possible - unfortunately I encountered a "problem" that basically cost me 2 months of doing anything but dealing with that. My garden has seriously suffered. I don't even have corn in yet - that's going in tomorrow, along with more chile pepper seeds.
No problem. You gave me the machine to look for. My wife is already on the case...:-)
I'm off to sleep - I've got a garden to contend with before the temp climb into the 90s!!!
It's been a pleasure, hope to FReep with you soon.
In Virginia you still have time to plant corn and have a late crop. Same for the peppers. Probably best to plant pepper slips and give them a head-start. You can plant field or blackeye peas for a fall crop.
Happy gardening. God bless.
I'm not a smoker but, as an avid gardener, I'm fascinated by the Alaskan gardener's setup!
>> Can you recommend a decent machine I could possibly pick up down at the tobacco shop?
Shelion posted stuffyourown.com. I ordered from there and am happy to date.