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SheLion, here's the first.

1 posted on 06/21/2005 8:25:19 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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Will the unused seeds keep for a while?

If you keep them cool (not frozen) and dry they should keep for a year or more.

Will regular tap water work, or will I have to use distilled or rainwater?

Tap water will do in a pinch. Distilled or rain water will likely contain fewer contaminants.

Fluorescent lighting. Will it work well for staggered stage growing year-round?

For starting the seeds it will be fine. Keep it close to the seedlings or they are likely to get "leggy". Raise it as they grow. As another Freeper suggested, they will need to be transplanted outdoors in order for them to flourish. A fluorescent bulb will not provide enough lumen's to insure that lower leaves receive the light they need.

Humidity?

Too much and the plants are likely to develop fungal / bacterial problems. Too little (combined with inadequate watering) and they will wilt.

Someone told me that nicotine is a natural insect repellant. Is this true?

True. Nicotine sulfate is a poison. A crude insecticide can be made by soaking tobacco leaves in water (as one would make sun tea).

What's the best soil to use?

Any normal fortified seed starting mix will be fine. As the plants grow macro (N,P,K) and micro nutrients will be required in sufficient quantities. They can be incorporated into the soil prior to transplanting. Signs of nutrient deficiency will indicate one or more is lacking. You can probably google up pictures of this if necessary.

How long should it be before something actually grows?

If the seeds are not covered too deeply, I'd expect to see initial signs of growth in a week or less.

44 posted on 06/21/2005 9:08:14 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (Imagine if islam controlled the internet.)
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Watch out for the grow lamps. The electric company watches for electricity usage increases consistent with running grow lamps, and notifies the government, who then sends in the DEA to bust down your door and possibly murder you without you ever having had a chance to tell them that what you're doing is perfectly legal.


50 posted on 06/21/2005 9:38:13 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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I've had tobacco seed in a sip lock baggie, in the refrigerator, for a few years. They still grow just fine. I don't know what variety they are. A relative from N.C. sent them to me.

I don't know that you need to go to the trouble of starting them indoors, I always just sowed the seeds directly on the soil. You don't want to cover them with soil as the germination is triggered by light. No special soil, no special water.

Don't know what part of the country you live in but the plants are partal to humidity and heat, obviously, as most tobacco is grown in the south.

Once the plants are growing you need to watch for, and remove, the sucker shoots. Just like growing tomatos.

The drying process is the most critical, IMO. As someone posted earlier, you tie the leaves on to a stick so they get enough air around them to prevent them from molding. Hang them in a dark, dry, room. Tobacoo barns used to have big furnaces in them and the sticks would be hung on rafters all the way to the top of the barn.

Once dry and after you have cleaned the tobacco off the leaves it will probably be too dry to smoke. You should get a humidor to put the tobacco in and add a tiny piece of orange peel to add a little moisture back to the tobacco.

This link has quite a few photos:

http://www.webshots.com/search?new=1&source=mdocsheader&words=drying+tobacco

51 posted on 06/21/2005 9:42:28 AM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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Growing is easy, it's the eternity of curing that'll get you back to buying the stuff.


55 posted on 06/21/2005 9:57:24 AM PDT by BJClinton (My wife says I never listen to her...at least I think that's what she said.)
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Hummmmm, this is interesting. I gave up cigarettes 11 years ago but husband still smokes a pipe. Growing tabacco for his pipe just might be a solution to the cost of pipe tabacco.


77 posted on 06/22/2005 5:46:11 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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You are in for a rewarding and interesting experience. I have been growing tobacco in Kansas for the past three years.

When the seeds germinate, the plants will appear to be deformed. they twist and turn and bend at the bottom. It is natural.

It is legal to grow a tenth of an acre, so don't sweat the BATF. Don't buy any books. It is all free on the internet.

Tobacco grows well in any soil that will grow a tomato.

Don't try to keep seeds. Mature plants will produce zillions of seeds from flowers. Indoor plants will flower year round.

The curing process is slow and you do need to read all you can about how you are going to cure the leaves. The plants are tough and prolific leaf producers. Stay in touch.
82 posted on 06/22/2005 6:00:07 AM PDT by Bonafide
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Seeds will germinate in less than ten days if conditions are right. Warm, wet, and flooded with light. If they don't produce a visible plant within 10 days, they need more light.


89 posted on 06/22/2005 6:14:51 AM PDT by Bonafide
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Take the same amount of time flipping burgers at McDonalds and use the money so you can have your cigs harvested, rolled, packaged and ready to use.

Explain again how one saves money by taking hours and hours to grow their own?

101 posted on 06/22/2005 6:35:51 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Where did you get the seeds?


114 posted on 06/22/2005 6:56:32 AM PDT by tiki
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My dads side of the family farmed in Mt Sterling, Kentucky. Tobacco was a primary crop. Air dried and hand rolled. It was the reason my dad even smoked in the first place. He did quit, but grandpa rolled to the day he died.


127 posted on 06/22/2005 7:14:21 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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Don't forget the additives or you'll be smoking harsh city.

Asian deer tongue extract, concentrated essence of camel dung, and dried ground ferret musk glands are good for starters.


161 posted on 06/22/2005 7:55:01 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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During the Second World War, rationing and shortages made many people in Britain grow their own tobacco. One of the most famous was a vicar, who grew his behind the church.

No ill-effects due to home growing reported.

Regards, Ivan


198 posted on 06/22/2005 11:50:53 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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Good on you. I, too, was tired of the hassle and just wanted to find a way to "screw the man", so I was going to do this.

Finally I just decided that it would really screw 'em if I just quit. So I did. Two months ago.

The hell with them.

199 posted on 06/22/2005 11:53:52 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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Do you have any old rusted out exhaust pipes, you could just scrape off the old carbon into flakes and roll that up and smoke em. It will probably taste better than a rollie.
206 posted on 06/22/2005 2:31:14 PM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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Until you start growing some Pinar del Rio gold, with some Cameroon for the wrapper, I aint buying.


242 posted on 06/22/2005 7:31:56 PM PDT by Clemenza (Frylock is my Homeboy)
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Jeez Louise! Amateurs! Ok - first get your grow lights, cover the basement windows with blackout, you're gonna need some ventilation fans and you should prolly fence the place in, let a couple of pit bulls have run of the place and keep a sharp eye out for revenooers.
You gots to keep in mind that your cuttin of the gubmints revenoo so yo'all gots to be keerful! ;-)
245 posted on 06/22/2005 7:37:21 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (In memory of our bravest in armed service to our nation.)
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UPDATE!
I've got sprouts!
274 posted on 06/27/2005 3:31:18 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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First pics:
Yesterday. Six days after planting:
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Today (Can't hardly see 'em, though!)
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A close up
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Looks like about 12 of 16 started. The other four seem to just need a bit more water.
277 posted on 06/28/2005 7:36:24 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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Dark Virginia

Sounds like Burley to me. American cigarettes are a blend. Burley all by itself will smoke extremely harsh - worse than a Class B Picayune cigarette. You will not like it.

Best to simply give it all up. Save the money you would have spent on smokes ...and within a few years ...pay cash for something real nice (if prices keep going up maybe a ...Lexus).

291 posted on 06/28/2005 10:00:59 AM PDT by Luke (CPO, USCG (Ret))
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Day 16 ping!

They're doing better than I expected. I'll transplant them outdoors Thursday.
293 posted on 07/06/2005 10:31:56 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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