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Walter Williams: Economics for the citizen [all of the Ten-Part Series]
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Posted on 06/21/2005 9:14:37 AM PDT by Tolik
Edited on 06/21/2005 1:10:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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Economics for the citizen
By Walter Williams
Ten-Part Series:
Part One http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0105/williams_econ1.php3
Part Two http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0105/williams_econ2.php3
Part Three http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0105/williams_econ3.php3
Part Four http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0105/williams_econ4.php3
Part Five http://jewishworldreview.com/0105/williams_econ5.php3
Part Six http://cweb.jewishworldreview.com/0205/williams_econ6.php3
Part Seven http://jewishworldreview.com/0205/williams_econ7.php3
Part Eight http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0305/williams_econ8.php3
Part Nine http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0305/williams_econ9.php3
Part Ten http://jewishworldreview.com/0605/williams_econ10.php3
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 229; economics; walterwilliams
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:14:38 AM PDT
by
Tolik
To: Tolik
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:15:45 AM PDT
by
avg_freeper
(Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
To: Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...
Walter Williams explains Economics in simple terms! This ping list is not author-specific for articles I'd like to share. Some for perfect moral clarity, some for provocative thoughts; or simply interesting articles I'd hate to miss myself. (I don't have to agree with the author 100% to feel the need to share an article.) I will try not to abuse the ping list and not to annoy you too much, but on some days there is more of good stuff that is worthy attention. You can see the list of articles I pinged to lately on my page.
Besides this one, I keep separate PING lists for my favorite authors Victor Davis Hanson, Orson Scott Card, David Warren and Lee Harris (sometimes). You are welcome in or out, just freepmail me (and note which PING list you are talking about).
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:17:41 AM PDT
by
Tolik
To: Tolik
Long read, but worth it. Thanks Tolik.
4
posted on
06/21/2005 9:22:39 AM PDT
by
My2Cents
To: Tolik
5
posted on
06/21/2005 9:24:32 AM PDT
by
Jason_b
To: Tolik
6
posted on
06/21/2005 9:28:07 AM PDT
by
kellynla
(U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
To: Tolik
Now THIS is what I would call a truly GREAT POST!
Thank you!
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:29:14 AM PDT
by
Bigun
(IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
To: Tolik
That Walter Williams sure is a handsome fella....
Thanks for the post - this is a great read.
To: Tolik
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:34:48 AM PDT
by
justaguy
To: Bigun; My2Cents
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:37:37 AM PDT
by
Tolik
To: Lil'freeper
That Walter Williams sure is a handsome fella.... Walter, is that you?
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:38:53 AM PDT
by
My2Cents
To: Tolik
Outstanding post. And he is a handsome fella.
Wonder what unique gifts he will be getting his wife this year. LOL!
To: Tolik
I have had to good fortune to be distantly aquainted with Dr. Williams for some years now and have concluded that we could use a great many more just like him.
He and Dr. Sowell are fine Americans worthy of emulation.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:45:13 AM PDT
by
Bigun
(IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
To: Commander Salamander
Well it was kitchen utensils last year. I suspect it'll be lawn care equipment this year....
The woman *must* be a saint.
To: Lil'freeper
I like the year where he just repaired items instead of buying anything new. ROFLMAO
To: kjenerette
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:54:13 AM PDT
by
Van Jenerette
(Our Republic...if we can keep it!)
To: Tolik
Last fall semester, I didn't teach for the first time in 37 years.Well that's GOOD news!!!
If his lectures are anything like the special-interest driven pseudo-economics that he pimps in his media columns, then Walter's students would have a legal basis to sue for tuition reimbursement.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:54:41 AM PDT
by
Willie Green
(Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
To: Tolik
A great series of articles. Thanks for posting!
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:55:00 AM PDT
by
Sirloin
To: Tolik
Thanks for your work.
Bump for Later
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:57:43 AM PDT
by
WhiteGuy
("a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all" - GW BUSH </sarcasm>)
To: Tolik
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:58:52 AM PDT
by
chaosagent
(It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
To: Willie Green
If his lectures are anything like the special-interest driven pseudo-economics that he pimps in his media columns, then Walter's students would have a legal basis to sue for tuition reimbursement.How typical of a Willie Green post!
Dr. Walter Williams, former chairman of the economics department at George Mason University, doesn't know sh*t about economics but Willie Green does!
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posted on
06/21/2005 10:09:35 AM PDT
by
Bigun
(IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
To: Bigun
WillieGreen is just mad that for every Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell or Milton Friedman out there one hundred Keynesian economists lose their jobs.
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posted on
06/21/2005 10:42:34 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Republicans and Democrats no longer exist. There are only Fabian and revolutionary socialists.)
To: Tolik
To: Tolik
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posted on
06/21/2005 10:56:01 AM PDT
by
Ignatz
(Gravity: It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
To: Bigun
Dr. Walter Williams, former chairman of the economics department at George Mason University, doesn't know sh*t about economics but Willie Green does! That's right. For instance over here, Willie says that we need to pay higher prices for sugar now (double or more), to protect ourselves from a possible price rise in the future. You can't get that kind of economic brilliance from a guy with a PhD.
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posted on
06/21/2005 11:13:17 AM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
To: Tolik; inquest
Imagine that the Japanese government imposed trade restrictions on U.S. grain imports. Japanese farmers could charge monopoly prices and enjoy higher income, and Japanese consumers would pay higher prices. Would you deem it an intelligent response for the U.S. government to retaliate against Japan's trade restrictions by imposing trade restrictions on Japanese camera lenses, thus allowing American lens producers to charge monopoly prices and American consumers to suffer higher prices? Put another way, is it a smart response for the U.S. government to harm American consumers because Japan harmed its consumers? So simple, yet beyond so many.
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:03:16 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
To: Lil'freeper
That Walter Williams sure is a handsome fella.... Thanks for the post - this is a great read.Williams, is that you?
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:15:49 PM PDT
by
Protagoras
(I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
To: Willie Green
LOL, a classic Willy Wonka post.
Utterly goofy, but great for a laugh. You should do stand up!
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:17:35 PM PDT
by
Protagoras
(I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
To: Protagoras
You should do stand up!As long as he wears his Choo-Choo Charley hat.
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:22:46 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
To: Toddsterpatriot
I don't have the inclination to tell our resident "Ned" (the guy on the Fedex commercial who's always wrong) what he should do, so I'll let Penn do it.
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:22:56 PM PDT
by
Protagoras
(I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
To: Toddsterpatriot
And like I said, you can blame the mad rush for FTA's for the reason why it's beyond so many. A lot of people take their cues from the politicians, and when politicians on both sides of the aisle are outwardly so united on a single point (namely, that unilateral lowering of tariffs is inherently bad economically), and no one dares to correct them, what do you expect the result to be among the citizenry at large?
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:26:32 PM PDT
by
inquest
(FTAA delenda est)
To: Tolik
Thanks for posting.
My 13 year old has some reading to do.
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:28:23 PM PDT
by
RJL
To: newgeezer
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:29:23 PM PDT
by
biblewonk
(Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
To: inquest
A lot of people take their cues from the politicians, and when politicians on both sides of the aisle are outwardly so united on a single point (namely, that unilateral lowering of tariffs is inherently bad economically), and no one dares to correct them, what do you expect the result to be among the citizenry at large? I can't even get some on FR to agree that 12 cents a pound is a better price than 24 cents a pound. And you want politicians to educate these people.
Some are just hopeless. They need to be worked around.
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:31:37 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
To: Tolik
JWR is on the must-excerpt list. ;)
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posted on
06/21/2005 12:44:27 PM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
To: Tolik
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posted on
06/21/2005 1:07:09 PM PDT
by
Rakkasan1
(don't piss on my koran and tell me it's raining.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
I'll break it down for you. There are those who believe that lowering tariffs unilaterally is a bad idea, the thinking being that the good that comes from lower prices would not outweigh the bad that comes from lost jobs.
Using that as a premise, there is no possible way whatsoever that you could argue that a bilateral agreement like CAFTA would make up for it, because the increase in U.S. exports would be minimal (as these countries have next to no purchasing power). So whatever jobs that come from an increase in exports would be very far outweighed by the jobs that are lost from the increase in imports.
Hence, you get no political leverage whatsoever - none, zip, nada - from making it bilateral as opposed to unilateral. The same anxieties get provoked in both instances. The only possible hope is convincing people that the reduction in prices that comes from lower tariffs would outweigh the damage that results from loss of jobs. Once you do that, then they'd be receptive to unilateral lowering of tariffs. So either way, there's no political advantage to bilateral vs unilateral.
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posted on
06/21/2005 1:08:17 PM PDT
by
inquest
(FTAA delenda est)
To: Toddsterpatriot
You can't get that kind of economic brilliance from a guy with a PhD.Yeah! I know! Willie is just FULL of such economic brilliance as "corporations do not pass on taxes they pay to their customers".
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posted on
06/21/2005 1:22:20 PM PDT
by
Bigun
(IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
To: Tolik
Thanks - a most enjoyable read.
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posted on
06/21/2005 1:26:33 PM PDT
by
listenhillary
(Socialists have only killed 100 million. We'll never learn will we?)
To: Tolik
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posted on
06/21/2005 1:26:40 PM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: inquest
There are those who believe that lowering tariffs unilaterally is a bad idea, the thinking being that the good that comes from lower prices would not outweigh the bad that comes from lost jobs.Yes, we agree they are ignorant.
Using that as a premise, there is no possible way whatsoever that you could argue that a bilateral agreement like CAFTA would make up for it, because the increase in U.S. exports would be minimal (as these countries have next to no purchasing power).
What do you think they will do with the dollars we send them for the goods we buy?
Hence, you get no political leverage whatsoever - none, zip, nada - from making it bilateral as opposed to unilateral. The same anxieties get provoked in both instances.
Sure you do. You hear them say they are tired of these one-sided trade deals? So they think it is possible to get enough from the other side to make lowering our own prices worthwhile. They just don't think we've done it. Imagine the screaming if we did it unilaterally. They'd sound like the all eunuch choir (well more like that).
The only possible hope is convincing people that the reduction in prices that comes from lower tariffs would outweigh the damage that results from loss of jobs.
I think the majority understands this. Most recent Senate races with a free trader vs a protectionist were won by the free trader.
So either way, there's no political advantage to bilateral vs unilateral.
There is. It reduces, somewhat, the whining.
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posted on
06/21/2005 1:28:55 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
To: Willie Green
There's a good reason Walter Williams is a well paid economics teacher and columnist and you're a keyboard pounder.
The free market! Isn't it wonderful? ;)
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posted on
06/21/2005 1:29:56 PM PDT
by
listenhillary
(Socialists have only killed 100 million. We'll never learn will we?)
To: Bigun
Yeah! I know! Willie is just FULL of such economic brilliance as "corporations do not pass on taxes they pay to their customers".Not to mention the importance of taxpayer funding of uneconomical choo-choo trains.
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posted on
06/21/2005 1:30:08 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
To: Tolik
must save -- didn't know about this thread -- thanks!
To: Tolik
Thanks for posting the whole thing. It was long, but worthwhile.
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posted on
06/21/2005 2:15:14 PM PDT
by
RhoTheta
(US out of the UN, now!)
To: Toddsterpatriot
What do you think they will do with the dollars we send them for the goods we buy?How long will it be before that money filters its way down to the masses in those countries? I'm not saying it won't happen at all, but how long? We've had NAFTA for 12 years now, and yet Mexicans are still flooding across the border in search of work just like they've always been, so obviously these things take time, especially when you're dealing with kleptocratic banana republics.
You hear them say they are tired of these one-sided trade deals? So they think it is possible to get enough from the other side to make lowering our own prices worthwhile.
When dealing with dirt-poor countries with little to no purchasing power (either now or in the near future), it'll still be almost completely as "one-sided" as a unilateral lowering of tariffs.
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posted on
06/21/2005 2:51:23 PM PDT
by
inquest
(FTAA delenda est)
To: inquest
How long will it be before that money filters its way down to the masses in those countries? I'm not saying it won't happen at all, but how long? Regardless, when those dollars are spent, we will benefit.
We've had NAFTA for 12 years now, and yet Mexicans are still flooding across the border in search of work just like they've always been, so obviously these things take time, especially when you're dealing with kleptocratic banana republics.
That's our fault for not building a wall and forcing Mexico to deal with their own poor, instead of foisting them on us.
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posted on
06/21/2005 2:56:52 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
To: Toddsterpatriot
Regardless, when those dollars are spent, we will benefit.In the meantime...what? People are just supposed to be waiting around to be employed?
That's our fault for not building a wall and forcing Mexico to deal with their own poor, instead of foisting them on us.
You're talking dealing with the effects of the problem. I'm talking about the source. After over a decade of NAFTA, the fact that even now there are still all those people who desperately want to come here shows how slowly the wheels of economic progress turn in these countries, even under optimal trading conditions with us.
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:03:08 PM PDT
by
inquest
(FTAA delenda est)
To: inquest
In the meantime...what? People are just supposed to be waiting around to be employed? Huh? I'm saying that when these other countries get dollars for their goods that America will benefit when these dollars are spent. Who's waiting around to be employed?
You're talking dealing with the effects of the problem. I'm talking about the source. After over a decade of NAFTA, the fact that even now there are still all those people who desperately want to come here shows how slowly the wheels of economic progress turn in these countries, even under optimal trading conditions with us.
No argument here that Mexico is screwed up. Your think more trade might make things better? It should. You think less trade will make things worse? No doubt.
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:18:15 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
To: Tolik
Oh! What a treasure this is! Thanks for the post!
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posted on
06/21/2005 4:11:19 PM PDT
by
GVnana
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